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Originally posted by kkina:
False positives are rare.

Based on what? Link Please.

Elon Musk was Positive and Negative?

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Originally posted by HRK:

“I’d like to see the two gentleman locked up in jail. I’d like for them to pay for what they did,” Troublefield said. “I don’t think any human being deserves to be treated like I was treated.”

Then next time try minding your own damn business.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by HRK:

“I’d like to see the two gentleman locked up in jail. I’d like for them to pay for what they did,” Troublefield said. “I don’t think any human being deserves to be treated like I was treated.”

Then next time try minding your own damn business.

There was a great post somewhere about what you should do if you saw folks gathering for Thanksgiving. Go to the refrigerator and get yourself a glass of milk. Milk? Yes. Milk is good for your teeth, just like minding your own damned business.

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Originally posted by braillediver:

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Originally posted by kkina:
False positives are rare.

Based on what? Link Please.

Elon Musk was Positive and Negative?

The swab test looks for genetic material from the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which of course is highly specific. The chance of any other material matching its genetic code by chance would be astronomical. So false positives are indeed rare, though they will occur.

I'm not familiar with Mr. Musk's situation, but with so many tests being done there will be some false positives, again at a very low rate.

How accurate are the laboratory tests used to diagnose COVID-19?

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Originally posted by HRK:
But he also said this will be the last time he’ll ever say anything again.

See, an ass whipping is very valuable to personal growth. 'Your' mouth was far more dangerous to your health than some random guy not wearing a mask.

I am of the opinion that whether masks work or not they are an easy enough placebo and if it makes other folks feel better so be it. That said why the hell would you get into somebody’s business over it??? That is just plain stupid on so many fronts, not the least of which being if you are so scared of the maskless why would you put yourself in a situation to get closer to them. That’s just stupid. Just give them a wide birth and go about your business.

Man we really can’t live and let live about anything anymore can we.

a Karen got put in his place by people fed up with the bullshit

I don't see anything wrong with that

12 months ago you could walk into a grocery store with 400 people and you had not one fucking clue as to the 'health status' of anyone - no idea if they had pneumonia, the flu, SARS, Ebola....and life worked out just fine

now all of a sudden, everyone is a leper and the karens have come out of the woodwork

the karens should crawl back under their rocks or go hide in their basements and leave the rest of us alone

the maskhole got exactly what he deserved

that should be SOP going forward

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But he also said this will be the last time he’ll ever say anything again.

Mind your own damn business and you won't have to worry about it.

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Elon Musk was Positive and Negative?

Just looked this up. Musk was referring to the rapid-response test, which is a saliva test. This is known to be significantly less reliable, or at least the early ones were. Some are saying the newer ones are more reliable?

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Originally posted by HRK:

Looking back, Daniel said he wishes he ignored them.

“To my regret I walked up to the car. I was trying to explain it is science and you should be wearing a mask because you’re endangering me and everyone else in the store by not having a mask on,” Troublefield said.

That’s when things escalated even further.

“The gentleman tapped on my chest. And I flipped up his hat, and that’s when they both got out of the car,” Troublefield explained.

I am guessing this is the first serious physical altercation the man has had. Most folks know that if 2 guys are poking your chest, it's time to make a decision. Responding by touching another man's hat without permission bought his ticket to the event.

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Originally posted by kkina:

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Elon Musk was Positive and Negative?

Just looked this up. Musk was referring to the rapid-response test, which is a saliva test. This is known to be significantly less reliable, or at least the early ones were. Some are saying the newer ones are more reliable?

My wife got tested this past Sunday. She was given a choice of one test that took 2-4 days to get results (she got them in 3), or a 'quick test' that gave results in a day or so. They then said the quick test wasn't as reliable.

If this is a life-changing event, I'm sure as HECK not knowingly getting an inaccurate test. A fake positive could be just as disruptive to my life as a false negative. . .

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Originally posted by HRK:

Troublefield, a disabled Marine veteran, said he never threw one punch and even passed out. His nose is now fractured, he’s had to get stitches, and he’s got bruises on his face and body.

I wonder if this guy is a 'real' Marine, and not some faux 'war hero' like that indian idiot who confronted the kid wearing the MAGA hat in Washington, DC (that 'marine' was kicked out of the Corps for desertion).

I also wonder if he is REALLY a 'disabled vet.' I qualify for that label, and the worst I have is sleep apnea (note, I never call myself 'disabled').

It sounds like he was just some karen snowflake that didn't know when to back off. I'm REALLY getting tired of the militant 'mask police.'

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But he also said this will be the last time he’ll ever say anything again.

At least he learned something out of all this.

I cannot figure out the 'logic' of the 'science people' who physically confront non-mask wearers, since doing so puts them in DIRECT PROXIMITY to somebody not wearing a mask. For people who believe in 'science,' they certainly aren't very smart about it.

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Originally posted by Oat_Action_Man:
I hope Wolf dies a horrible, horrible death. Soon.

Asshole has COVID apparently, and I hope he dies of it.

I mean that with every fiber of my being and I will not apologize for the sentiment.

I understand the feelings. I feel the same way about our prick of a governor. I keep hoping that he will catch it.

Things could always be worse - instead of an unreliable test you could be one of the initial vaccine recipients in Australia that got a little something extra with their miracle vaccine - HIV.

^^^^

They didn't get HIV. The vaccine caused a false positive HIV test result

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Originally posted by cslinger:
I am of the opinion that whether masks work or not they are an easy enough placebo and if it makes other folks feel better so be it.

Except for one thing. It's not my damn job to make you or anyone else feel better. For the umpteenth time, I don't give a damn how people feel. You live your life and I'll live mine.

And 'if' masks truly accomplished anything, wouldn't the new case counts in these urban areas that have been rabid about enforcing mask wearing be lower than places that are lax on mask wearing? Yet they're not, and in many instances, the case counts are higher in areas where mask wearing has been enforced. This 'mass' masking BS has got to be hands down the dumbest thing American sheep have fallen for. I can't wait to see what absurdity comes next. "The CDC now recommends people wipe their faces with K9 feces to prevent the spread of the Covonavirus." Ya wanna bet me how many people would truly look like shit after that recommendation came out?

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Originally posted by cslinger:
I am of the opinion that whether masks work or not they are an easy enough placebo and if it makes other folks feel better so be it.

Someone else’s placebo may be a nightmare for others. Imagine how someone with claustrophobia feels about being told they should mask up to appease some fuckwit. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that you’ve never experienced a panic attack, have PTSD, or understand the crushing anxiety that comes with restricted airflow. Yeah, nah yeah. Fuck no it’s not my job to make someone else “feel” safer!

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Except for one thing. It's not my damn job to make you or anyone else feel better. For the umpteenth time, I don't give a damn how people feel. You live your life and I'll live mine.

And 'if' masks truly accomplished anything, wouldn't the new case counts in these urban areas that have been rabid about enforcing mask wearing be lower than places that are lax on mask wearing? Yet they're not, and in many instances, the case counts are higher in areas where mask wearing has been enforced. This 'mass' masking BS has got to be hands down the dumbest thing American sheep have fallen for. I can't wait to see what absurdity comes next. "The CDC now recommends people wipe their faces with K9 feces to prevent the spread of the Covonavirus." Ya wanna bet me how many people would truly look like shit after that recommendation came out?

I agree totally. If masks work so well, then there should not be these large spikes in case numbers. So, we are being lied to once more about either the number of cases or the masks. In my opinion it is more likely lies about both. Just follow the money and it is clear. As far as "making someone feel safer"...that is pure PC b.s.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by cslinger:
I am of the opinion that whether masks work or not they are an easy enough placebo and if it makes other folks feel better so be it.

Except for one thing. It's not my damn job to make you or anyone else feel better. For the umpteenth time, I don't give a damn how people feel. You live your life and I'll live mine.

And 'if' masks truly accomplished anything, wouldn't the new case counts in these urban areas that have been rabid about enforcing mask wearing be lower than places that are lax on mask wearing? Yet they're not, and in many instances, the case counts are higher in areas where mask wearing has been enforced. This 'mass' masking BS has got to be hands down the dumbest thing American sheep have fallen for. I can't wait to see what absurdity comes next. "The CDC now recommends people wipe their faces with K9 feces to prevent the spread of the Covonavirus." Ya wanna bet me how many people would truly look like shit after that recommendation came out?

1-I haven’t been able to breathe or smell since like 1983. Slapping a mask on isn’t exactly fun. Well except the red one where I get to run around yelling COBRA!!!! But I digress. Also for the record....panic attack....yes. Asthma yes....hospital visit wearing a lovely shade of blue...yes.

2-I wasn’t saying you should or have to wear a mask. I was saying that at least for me personally it’s a simple ask and if I can make somebody else feel better I am ok with that.

3-I am a true live and let live guy. You do you, I do me. We don’t have to agree but we should respect each other’s choices. I CERTAINLY wouldn’t give you shit for not wearing a mask. Hell I haven’t walked in your shoes. My point was if I was wearing a mask and saw you not wearing a mask e the last thing I would do is call you out. Worst case if I was “terrified” I’d give you a wide birth.

All I was saying is that for me personally wearing a mask is a simple enough thing to do even if it just makes somebody feel better. It’s the repressed nice guy in me. I am not saying if somebody doesn’t feel the same way they are “ EBIL”

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Originally posted by MNSIG:
^^^^

They didn't get HIV. The vaccine caused a false positive HIV test result

Ok - that's better. So that would mean that there is some trace of HIV in the original COVID host that would trigger this false positive?