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Was going to wait but figured I might as well add my three 320s to the queue. Will probably just leave them be until they get updated. | |||
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Well, the "genius" advocates it . . . but he's tactical, ya' know. His classes have students drop live pistols in training to prove that they won't go off. One of his instructors ND'd a P320 during one such demonstration process in California. According to the witnesses/investigations I read, the P320 survived the drop but not the foot grinding in gravel - if memory serves. For some reason, he and his company were thereafter banned from that range. _______________________________ NRA Life Member NRA Certified Range Safety Officer | |||
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When will I learn? About once a year someone post something from that clown and I'm dumb enough to click on it and waste my life watching that crap...  I think he's the Bevis & Butthead of the gun world! | |||
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Well said. I want that 9 minutes of my life back. | |||
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Sometimes I pretend I'm watching that electrician from Down Periscope when I see Yeager. It helps.  _______________________________ NRA Life Member NRA Certified Range Safety Officer | |||
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So I submitted my two P320's for the upgrade process. Then I thought, perhaps I'll put my P320 Compact in the safe, and go back to my old, beloved W. German P228 for awhile. Oh crap...the old P228 just doesn't feel as good in the hand anymore. Darn P320 really has me spoiled. _________________________ 2nd Amendment Defender The Second Amendment is not about hunting or sport shooting. | |||
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So I am hesitant to put my information in for the upgrade program. I would like to hear from Bruce before I do. 2 of my pistols currently have his magic done to them and I would much rather send all five to him (Even if it cost me a bit) to be done. Bruce, if you are seeing this thread and can comment I would appreciate it. I am sure you have plenty going on so there is no rush. NRA Training Counselor NRA Benefactor Member | |||
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Toby Huss is quite a funny guy and an under appreciated actor. He was a couple of years older than me in school, but I remember his creativity impersonations in the hallways. ___________________________ "Those that can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others..." | |||
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Right. And we can assume that if you don't update your pistol, it will no longer be compatible with future X-change kits, right? So modularity goes bye-bye. | |||
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| Ethics, antics, and ballistics  |
I know everyone is different and has different preferences, but verily I say unto thee that thou hast spoken blasphemy and would be in the minority! I would not trade my German nickel two tone P228 for 10 P320s! -Dtech __________________________ "I've got a life to live, people to love, and a God to serve!" - sigmonkey "Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value." - Albert Einstein "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition" ― Rudyard Kipling | |||
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Lord, and Aretha Franklin, forgive me for blaspheming here on the forum. Don't worry, I'm not getting rid of my Classic SIGs. I still enjoy shooting them. But the love for the P320 is strong. _________________________ 2nd Amendment Defender The Second Amendment is not about hunting or sport shooting. | |||
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How is a divot in a future exchange kit slide going to ruin modularity? Wouldn't the divot just harmlessly reciprocate with every round? Maybe I don't understand the extent of the slide modification. Do you know? _______________________________ NRA Life Member NRA Certified Range Safety Officer | |||
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| When you fall, I will be there to catch you -With love, the floor |
Not at all. The only item installed in the slide is the new style striker. | |||
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Thanks, Para. I appreciate the link. Now, let me help you out with how I used the word, "foundation" in my comment so that you can understand the context. I used the word "foundation" as a noun, so pay particular attention to definition number one. It might help you the next time you decide to publicly deride another long-time Sig Forum member for daring to question Sig Sauer. http://www.dictionary.com/browse/foundation I've been a member here for several years now, but commented relatively little because of replies like this one from you. I knew when I typed my questions seeking honest answers from the experts here that the brain-washed Sig fanboys would instead come out with their intolerant responses, but I didn't expect it from you. You're more irritated at me for daring to doubt or question Sig Sauer than you are the fact that they've knowingly put a dangerous handgun in the hands of the public for monetary gain. While moderating this thread, I've yet to see you question Sig, their management's response, ethical practices, or what they knew when they knew it about the P320; instead, you're constantly calling down those who do while not calling out those who have stroke in the industry or are Sig apologists. Basically, you're doing damage control for Sig Sauer at the expense of some members here with genuine critical questions about the P320. I've been a shooter for quarter century; been a firearms instructor for twenty. I've carried Sigs most of the time in my night job. Since it's your forum, you can do as you wish, but you're going to do so without me. I'm sure that my departure doesn't bother you because there'll be someone who takes my place that will tolerate the descent of Sig Forum into the land of Glock Talk or YouTube comments, but I'm tired of the gun community eating their own, and I'm really tired of the excuses being made by experts here for the P320 being a catastrophe. This thread and some of the brand elitists here disgust me. I've seen some of the most respected people on this forum question everyone but Sig Sauer, and blame everything but the P320, from the police to Omaha Outdoors. I expected more openness from this forum. So, Para, please remove me from Sig Forum. I'm looking forward to life without it. | |||
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It's more likely that I'm the one who doesn't understand it. So it sounds like there will be compatibility between new and old FCUs and slide assemblies. That would be good news. | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
I think you are over-reacting, I saw the response as humorous. | |||
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jbourneidentity I could understand your comments above, if SIG intentionally produced a defective product and sent it to market. I would like to see anyone's PROOF of this, not speculation. SIG produced a pistol that complied with all of the currently accepted test protocols. By total chance, a flaw was discovered by going outside of those procedures. SIG is addressing this and has said it was planning on incorporating the military changes to future pistols. I'll take them at their word on this, unless you have PROOF that the statement is false. In that case, I would like to see the proof. Because of the flaw that was discovered, all pistols will be corrected at SIG's expense. Are all of the bashers going to excoriate EVERY manufacturer, of ANY product, for ANY defects that are discovered completely by chance, by going outside of standard test procedures, as badly as they have SIG in this instance? It has been shown that the test procedures need to be updated. And they will need to be updated again, and again, as necessary to keep up with the most recent discoveries which nobody could have imagined at the time each procedure was instituted. If you want every possible test (including those that have not been even thought of yet, as in this case)to be done to discover a defect, before anything goes to market, say goodbye to a lot of goods we now enjoy (or could envision for the future) because they will be either not be produced because manufacturers will deem them too expensive to produce, or most people will not be able to afford them, if they are produced. Sic Semper Tyrannis If you beat your swords into plowshares, you will become farmers for those who didn't! Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be Manners-George Carlin | |||
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I've seen people drop a gun because they got hot brass down their shirt. While it's not "on purpose" it does happen and the guy has valid points for training to fight. I'll admit I've dropped my glock while unholstering after a run with a sweaty gun and hand. Shit happens, but i knew enough to just let it drop also. Joe Back in Tx. | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower  |
Oh, for God's sake. You posted some melodramatic crap in this thread and I made a joke out of it. Look back over this thread. Point out to me my defense of SIG. You can't take a joke, is all it comes down to, because that's all it was. I wasn't "irritated" with you, and certainly not for speaking your mind about SIG. You don't have the slightest idea what are my personal opinions about all of this. For you to interpret my remarks to you and to others in this thread as defense of SIG clearly demonstrates that you do not know what you're talking about. Leave if you want to leave, and take your assumptions with you. Go ahead and show me all this defense of mine for SIG in this thread. Let's see it. I didn't even open this thread for the longest time, yet you've got me runnin' cover for SIG. Ridiculous. "Straight man"- Are you familiar with the term? I made a joke, using you as my straight man, and that is all. Period. I saw an opportunity to make a joke and that's what I did. Lighten up. Jesus Were you born without the humor gene? Maybe seek psychiatric help for how issues with a mechanical device have rocked your world. Don't say silly, melodramatic shit in a public forum and maybe you won't get riffed on. You're freakin' humorless, man. | |||
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