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Originally posted by arcwelder76:
So, I guess France won't want a P320 contract?

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Originally posted by CQB60:
More fuel for the fire:
Amid increased scrutiny, Sig Sauer was named in a $7 million personal injury lawsuit by a Connecticut police officer who was injured when his holstered P320 pistol discharged when it hit the ground.

Vicent Sheperis, a 34-year-old police officer in Stamford, Connecticut, filed the case against the New Hampshire gun maker in a New Haven federal court last week. The lawsuit alleges his injuries were the result of a defective safety mechanism in the P320 design, which has also been a growing topic among firearm enthusiasts.

According to the complaint, Sheperis, a member of Stamford police Special Response Team, was injured in January when his department-issued P320 pistol fell as he loaded equipment into a vehicle. The pistol discharged when it hit the ground and the bullet struck him in the leg and knee.

“The weapon’s internal and external safeties all failed to prevent it from discharging and shooting Officer Sheperis,” the lawsuit says, adding the trigger was “incapable of being touched or of any movement” because the gun was inside a holster.

“At no time before, during or after the incident did Officer Sheperis place his finger on the P320’s trigger or touch the holstered firearm in any manner,” the lawsuit says and cites a report filed about the incident that reiterates those details. Stamford police then “shelved” all the P320 pistols issued to the SRT operators, the lawsuit says.

As news of the case came to light, issues involving the Sig P320 had been developing. The New Hampshire gun maker has been in the hot seat since last week the Dallas Police Department suspended the P320’s use, citing concerns about the gun’s drop safety in a memo to its officers. Sig responded to the memo, saying there had been “zero reported drop-related P320 incidents in the U.S. commercial market.”

LINK : http://www.guns.com/2017/08/09...y-lawsuit-over-p320/

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Originally posted by wolffy88:
I agree that they should offer a no questions asked free upgrade. I have a really modified FS and I'm pretty sure they won't touch it, which is a shame for me.

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Originally posted by indigoss:

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Originally posted by arcwelder76:
So, I guess France won't want a P320 contract?

It's possible the Israelis may opt for it since they carry with the chamber empty. The beauty is the slam fire which reduces the need for trigger control

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Originally posted by ScopeX5:

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Originally posted by wolffy88:
I agree that they should offer a no questions asked free upgrade. I have a really modified FS and I'm pretty sure they won't touch it, which is a shame for me.

What do you consider heavily modified. 2 of mine have RMR cuts but they are still going back.

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Originally posted by arcwelder76:

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Originally posted by indigoss:

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Originally posted by arcwelder76:
So, I guess France won't want a P320 contract?

It's possible the Israelis may opt for it since they carry with the chamber empty. The beauty is the slam fire which reduces the need for trigger control

If an Israeli drops a P320 in the woods? Does it make a sound?

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:
An Israeli would have to find some woods to drop it in, first.

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Originally posted by wolffy88:

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Originally posted by ScopeX5:

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Originally posted by wolffy88:
I agree that they should offer a no questions asked free upgrade. I have a really modified FS and I'm pretty sure they won't touch it, which is a shame for me.

What do you consider heavily modified. 2 of mine have RMR cuts but they are still going back.

Window cut, ported barrel, stippled, ggi trigger, about a 3 lbs pull trigger.

My thought is that they don't want the liability of working on a gun that later might have an issue leaving them liable. They may upgrade it but keep things like the ggi trigger.

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Originally posted by cslinger:
Holy Shit the Pope Poops. I can't help myself. It's the catholic school.

Also that Glock Facebook thing was funny as hell.

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Originally posted by indigoss:
Another failed test, with the mallet. The gun is upright, I don't think trigger momentum plays into the discharge. I know some may discard the mallet use but the force used isn't all that much. Just food for thought.

https://youtu.be/veI5NsDqG9E

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Originally posted by arcwelder76:

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:
An Israeli would have to find some woods to drop it in, first.

A little levity can't hurt in here, and somebody has to be literal. We do all understand that Israelis reside in many climate zones, right? Does anyone closely monitor jokes about the pope pooping?

Oi.

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:
But to answer your question, an Israeli with a negligent discharge in the woods will likely make a sound. When he's running from the bear that gets hit by the round discharged from the dropped firearm.

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Originally posted by arcwelder76:

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:
But to answer your question, an Israeli with a negligent discharge in the woods will likely make a sound. When he's running from the bear that gets hit by the round discharged from the dropped firearm.

For the purposes of the joke, Israelis don't carry with one in the pipe. Not carrying with one in the pipe is also a joke, that's a different thread.

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Originally posted by pblanc:

The Yankee Marshal has a video intended to critique the Patrick R. video on TFB. In the comments made in response to the YM video, it was suggested that if the video is slowed to 1/4 speed as the pistol is struck with the mallet, it can be seen that the trigger does indeed move.

I tried it and the trigger definitely moves as if fires. It doesn't move a whole lot and I don't know what is going on inside that gun when it fires or if the amount of trigger movement is sufficient to disengage the striker block safety. But it definitely moves.

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Originally posted by arcwelder76:

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:
But to answer your question, an Israeli with a negligent discharge in the woods will likely make a sound. When he's running from the bear that gets hit by the round discharged from the dropped firearm.

Does the pope poop in the pipe?
For the purposes of the joke, Israelis don't carry with one in the pipe. Not carrying with one in the pipe is also a joke, that's a different thread.

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Originally posted by RX-79G:

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Originally posted by striker1:
I went back and looked at this P250 animation. I see a little bit of similarity in the safety lock/lever of the P250 and the P320 system, even though they are different (hammer vs striker). I don't know how much of a drop would need to be sustained with a P250 in order to slip the lock away from the firing pin.

It doesn't matter if the firing pin block bounced. The hammer is always down on the P250.

There is no impact that could simultaneous 'cock' the hammer and keep the firing compressed, in part because the hammer would have to stick out where the gun hits to pull the trigger. But trigger and hammer require too much travel to drop fire.