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No matter how hard I try, I just can't find a weapon that works better for me than the 1911.

The grip angle and fit for me are just perfect. I love the single-action trigger that pulls straight to the rear, the grip safety that you don't even have to think about, and thumb safety that allows the shooter to disengage it without compromising their grip...I'm typically not a fan of manual safetys on guns, but this one is about as well-designed as they come. Mr. Browning knew what he was about.

My particular variant isn't anything special. It's a Springfield Loaded...nothing custom about it, with plenty of MIM parts and mass-produced machining. I think I paid $800 OTD for it brand new (and SA had a promotion going, so I got 5 mags, a hard case, and a really nice range bag thrown in). The only modifications I've made to it are changing out the rear sight because I didn't like the factory 6-o'clock hold, and I swapped out the full-length guide rod for the more traditional GI style.

The darn thing just won't malfunction, and hits everything I shoot at with it. It's smooth, recoil is very manageable, and despite it's size and weight it actually carries very nicely. I own a bunch of other semi-auto handguns...both DA/SA and striker-fired...but every time I shoot this thing it makes me question why. It's enough to make me want to sell everything else (except the P320s I need for work) and buy more 1911s in various calibers. Has anybody else experienced this problem?

 
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IMHO, the classic 1911 design has both some pro's and a few con's. But if it works for you, thats all that really matters. It's probably one of the easiest pistols to shoot good with from the start.
 
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looks great!

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...and buy more 1911s in various calibers. Has anybody else experienced this problem?


Yup. At first there was a 10mm, followed by a .17, then a 2011 in 10mm and I also had to have another one of those in .38 and then a .40...




 
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Beauty of a gun. My only complaint with that particular model is the lack of front strap checkering. That loaded model Springfield shoots better than anything else I've owned. To be fair the Tupperware guns are lighter, hold more ammo, and easier to conceal (for me at least), but I trust that 1911 to go bang every time.
 
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My only complaint with that particular model is the lack of front strap checkering.


Yeah, my original plan was to have that done (part of the reason I opted for stainless, to save money on a refinish), but the more I'm shooting it, the more I realize I don't need it. The bead-blasting makes for kind of a grippy texture in itself. That view might change if I was doing some serious competition-type shooting in the summer heat, thought. It may still happen.

I also don't love the ambi-safety, but it snicks on and off just how I like it, and it's not really hurting anything, so I'm afraid to mess with it.
 
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I have Pachmayr grips on my 1911's and they do the trick.
 
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I had the exact same Springfield years back. I installed a different hammer and seer, bought a cool stoning fixture and stones from Brownells. Ended up with a nicer trigger than my Clark gun had. Its barrel bore was scratchy looking. It would shoot all Xs at 50 feet with my cast bullet target loads.
 
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92, very helpful remarks. I trained at Gun Site Ranch on the full size 1911. I own other pistols but I am most comfortable with the 1911. Your reasons are well thought out and expressed. I am in complete agreement with you! At a time when I must start reducing my collection, my 1911 pistols will be the keepers.
 
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To the title, maybe one might consider a few evolutionary items as moving the pinnacle. Less weight, more capacity, more reliable, easier to maintain, better performance in adverse conditions, adjust ability to different hand sizes. Just to name a few. But I have a bunch of 1911's and if that was all I had I wouldn't miss the evolutionary changes if that matters.


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I'm a huge fan of the 1911 platform and own a good number of them.
In my opinion, they would be perfect with a linkless barrel like the old Peters Stahl designed Springfield Armory Omega.



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I dont recall there being any mim parts in the Soringfield Loaded model.
 
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I'm a huge fan of the 1911 platform and own a good number of them.
In my opinion, they would be perfect with a linkless barrel like the old Peters Stahl designed Springfield Armory Omega.
Yes indeed. Going 1 step further, no barrel lugs. Cant remember if the Omega used barrel lugs for rear barrel lock or breech block lock up like most modern auto pistols. Went and varyfied it did use a breech block at rear.
 
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I'm partial to the 21st Century version...

 
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No we did not
 
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In my opinion, yes we did, but it's obviously just personal preference. I love the 1911. I love how it feels, shoots, and looks. And I love that my Grandpa helped rid the world of evil with one from 1943-1945.
 
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This boomer from reddit seems to think so: https://www.reddit.com/r/weeke...ight_about_the_1911/
 
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I'm a huge fan of the 1911 platform and own a good number of them.
In my opinion, they would be perfect with a linkless barrel like the old Peters Stahl designed Springfield Armory Omega.


Ok, I'd never heard of those before...just looked them up. That's pretty awesome!
 
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I dont recall there being any mim parts in the Soringfield Loaded model.


Maybe not on some of the older ones, but mine definitely does. I couldn't give you a full list of the parts that are, but my hammer and slide stop definitely have visible casting seams in them. I've not had problems with any of these parts, and their presence doesn't bother me...I just mentioned it to point out that this is not a high-end custom gun.
 
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LOL A P220 will do everything a 1911 can and do it all better. Too dense to learn how to shoot a DA/SA, then get a P220 SAO.

Anyone that's still thinks the 1911 is "The pinnicle of semi-automatic handgun design..." is delusional.

Truth be told, the Glock is BY FAR a better design than a 1911 ever thought of being. If the 1911 were introduced today it would be a failure.

Harsh words I know but it's the factual truth and by no means "Opinion".
 
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LOL A P220 will do everything a 1911 can and do it all better. Too dense to learn how to shoot a DA/SA, then get a P220 SAO.

Anyone that's still thinks the 1911 is "The pinnicle of semi-automatic handgun design..." is delusional.

Truth be told, the Glock is BY FAR a better design than a 1911 ever thought of being. If the 1911 were introduced today it would be a failure.

Harsh words I know but it's the factual truth and by no means "Opinion".

Did you go off your brain pills again ?

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