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Except that it appears to work. Plenty of anecdotal evidence on r/NFA. I wouldn't throw out a "hey I submitted this item last week and wondering if you could help me out?" email, but where something is tracking way outside of normal approval times or was not batch approved, what's the harm?

If emailing an examiner was prohibited or frowned upon, the ATF would put out some guidance, the examiners would be instructed to ignore email requests, or both.
 
Posts: 5148 | Location: Iowa | Registered: February 24, 2011Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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My eform 1 brace individual sbr submitted on 1/17 approved today.
Waiting on the trust sbr submitted 2/16.

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Does anyone know what real world impact that approval conditions have? I have always assumed you would get a form1 back that looked no different than normal.


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Does anyone know what real world impact that approval conditions have? I have always assumed you would get a form1 back that looked no different than normal.



It means exactly what it says. You got approved based on a specific rule, which exempted you from engraving, paying the $200, and 922r considerations that paid submissions all have to deal with. The flip side, if that rule is overturned in court, all of those exemptions may go away, including the approval. A court would probably have to work out to undo it. It’s legalese.
 
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I get all the benefits to me, but does it come with any obligations for me?


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I get all the benefits to me, but does it come with any obligations for me?


Like what? As of now it’s a registered SBR, same as any other SBR. Need to fill out a Form 20 to take it out of state, same restrictions on who can access, etc.
 
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Except my other SBR F1's have not conditions. It's a couple of hundred pages of rulemaking. I guess the one that I think of is do I have to maintain into perpetuity the ability to put it back into the configuration that enabled me to get the 2021R-08F Form1 or at least maintain the ability to affirmatively document that configuration existed prior to 1/31/2023?


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Except my other SBR F1's have not conditions. It's a couple of hundred pages of rulemaking. I guess the one that I think of is do I have to maintain into perpetuity the ability to put it back into the configuration that enabled me to get the 2021R-08F Form1 or at least maintain the ability to affirmatively document that configuration existed prior to 1/31/2023?



I think you’re reading way to much into it. As I said, it’s just legalese that says it was approved under the conditions of a specific rule, which exempts you from certain requirements as specified in the rule.

Not sure I really understand your questions. The ATF determined that the previous configuration of a braced pistol was an illegal SBR, so what configuration are you going back to? They didn’t determine that they only became SBRs on 1/31/23 and were just pistols with braces prior to that. Their point is that they were always SBRs. All they are doing is providing a 120 day amnesty to allow people to register them.

If there are other questions, ask the ATF. Or, just pay the $200, engrave, and comply with 922r, and then you don’t have to worry about it. Or, don’t get an amnesty stamp, just remove the brace and destroy it, or turn in the firearm, or any of the other options that they’ve listed.

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I just got off the phone with an ATF person. I was advised that it is still “PENDING”. I asked if there is something wrong with my form that I need to correct. I was told “I dont see any notes. Just wait”. Frown


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Pistol Amnesty efile
submitted: 4/22/23
Approved: 5/01/23


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Eform 4 Trust through silencer shop for a pistol caliber silencer.

Certified July 15th 2022.
Approved May 1st 2023.


8.5 months.
 
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I’m getting ready to do some amnesty form 1’s this weekend. I’m confused about the pictures. Do we need pictures of the gun with the brace extended or just pictures of the receiver markings?
 
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Markings on the receiver.


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Markings on the receiver.

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I just logged in and can’t get past updating my info. I just get a blue spinning circle. Do some browsers work better than others on there site?
 
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Me personally I haven't seen any specific browser issues. But performance is spotty. I was helping another member get his first one done and we were walking through the train stops and I was zipping by and he was waiting minutes between steps. I've used both firefox and edge without issues. When it sucks I just give up and plan another time.


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PAID eF1 submitted 02/06

As of today, per ATF "keep waiting" it's still pending No problems showing - just pending
 
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Well, that's four of them submitted on 5/9 via e-file. Now to wait.


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Pistol Amnesty efile
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Do the pistol amnesty SBRs receive an electronic tax stamp the same as an Eform4 silencer does?
 
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Eform 4 Trust through Silencer Central for a pistol caliber silencer.

This will be my 2nd from Silencer Central.

Submitted 5/5/2023
Hoping for January 2024.


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Pistol Amnesty efile
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Do the pistol amnesty SBRs receive an electronic tax stamp the same as an Eform4 silencer does?


No, there is no tax stamp, just a signed approved form. You didn’t pay for a stamp.
 
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