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The Ukrainians can sink Russian ships faster than Russia can build them.
I also think the Ukrainians are destroying armored vehicles faster than Russia can replace them.


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^^ How exactly is Turkey doing this? Russia has its own port on the Black Sea, in Crimea, which was and is the home port of the Russian Navy's Black Sea Fleet. The Russians have had a naval base in Crimea since 1783, so for the last 240 years!

You’re confused. Ports aren’t warships.

“Turkey's enforcement of the Montreux Convention blocks reinforcements from entering via the Turkish Straits, limiting Russia's ability to replenish major combat ships.”

“The Montreux Convention Regarding the Regime of the Straits is a 1936 international agreement that gives Turkey control over the Bosporus and Dardanelles straits, guarantees free civilian passage, and limits foreign warship access between the Black Sea and the Mediterranean Sea. Signed on July 20, 1936, it went into effect on November 9, 1936.”
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“The largest modern Russian warship in the Black Sea was the Slava-class guided-missile cruiser Moskva, which served as the flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet. It displaced 11,500 tons and measured 186 meters (612 feet) in length before it sank in April 2022.”
NBC News

Sunk on April 14, 2022, following hits by Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missiles. Four years on, the Russians haven’t been able to replace it.



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^^ OK, so Turkey, on the opposite side of the Black Sea from Russia, which controls the Turkish Straits will neither let any Russian warships that departed the Black Sea ultimately for the Mediterranean Sea 'return' to the Black Sea, nor let any 'other' Russian Warships enter the Black Sea! Gotcha

By the way, they've still got ships in those ports, you know, the ones on the Black Sea! Wink

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubr...in-in-black-sea.html


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^^^^
Glad to see you got it.



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This guy is a breath of fresh air after having to deal with that morbidly obese piece of excrement Jon Tester for 18 years. So far, I'm happy I voted for him.



I agree with almost everything Sen. Tim Sheehy (R-MT) said in that video but I think this is a misstatement:

"0:5757 seconds They don't care who you voted for, who you pray to, or where you live."

They do care who we (everyone) pray(s) to, and that is a very crucial point.
 
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Looks like we’ve “paused” operations again in Iran.

Link: https://apnews.com/article/ira...1d3429a87a6ed58f2f72




This is what has me so frustrated with the Iran situation. We need to just hit them super hard and just end it, they are just stringing us along and they will never give in. Either we make the problem go away permanently are we go home. Every time I see an article where Trump says they are negotiating I pay no attention to it at all as it literally just means nothing
 
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Several days ago President Trump stated that we would destroy one Iranian bridge or power plant for each attack on a vessel passing through the strait of Hormuz. Since then I’ve seen no reports of such vessel attacks.



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Several days ago President Trump stated that we would destroy one Iranian bridge or power plant for each attack on a vessel passing through the strait of Hormuz. Since then I’ve seen no reports of such vessel attacks.


Do mines count? Interceptions?



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I don’t know. Maybe evidence of additional mine laying would trigger an attack.

I took President Trump’s threat to mean a ship actively attacked by rockets, planes, or boats. As far interceptions, I don’t know about that either, but the veracity of “Iran’s military-linked state media” is low in my reconning.

“Iran’s military-linked state media, which also claimed that the Islamic Republic had intercepted at least six ships in the past 24 hours.“



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The Ukrainians just did us a solid.

Smoked a Russian freighter in the Caspian filled with weapons destined for Iran.


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So making 6 vessels turn back with warning shots doesn’t count as an attack?

So said “Iran’s military-linked state media”. You must trust their veracity more than I do. I’ll wait for better evidence.



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Let’s see what the the coming weeks bring. The one clear outcome of this conflict so far has been to show how utterly depleted and insufficient our ability is to supply the military weapons needed.


You know that by listening to the msm?
Everything I hear is the opposite.
Might try getting your info somewhere else then the msm.



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Those directing the effort do not seem overly concerned. Everyone else has and anti effort agenda imho.



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Agreed, we all want the same thing. Keep fighting and keep the faith!



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Let’s see what the the coming weeks bring. The one clear outcome of this conflict so far has been to show how utterly depleted and insufficient our ability is to supply the military weapons needed.


You know that by listening to the msm?
Everything I hear is the opposite.
Might try getting your info somewhere else then the msm.


I don’t read MSM generally. I like reading various military focused sites, including The War Zone, Task & Purpose, and Breaking Defense.

The closest I get to MSM is the Wall Street Journal, but that publication has gone south for years.

Some relevant articles, I do prefer how The War Zone is meticulous in citing sources within articles:

https://www.twz.com/news-featu...terceptor-stockpiles

https://taskandpurpose.com/new...iran-asymmetric-war/

https://breakingdefense.com/20...in-the-supply-chain/

EDIT: excellent sourced article, referenced in the articles above. Author is a retired Marine Colonel at https://www.csis.org/ but the data is based on production and expenditure:

https://www.csis.org/analysis/...ry-multiyear-project




So a conflict with Iran showed that we currently do not have enough inventory of many of our defensive and offensive weapons. Hopefully we will be making much more than to replenish used stock and stockpiling even more. I guess this is also showing our adversaries the same, where they need to stockpile more than what they have now. Just my opinion and observation. God Bless Smile


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Like the government is giving out classified exact inventories to the enemy.


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Like the government is giving out classified exact inventories to the enemy.


Correct.



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And it's on again..... Iran just launched surprise missile attack on Jordan according to Centcom.
 
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Asked whether Putin is helping Iran target Americans, President Trump said that he would ask Putin. He said he trusts Putin to tell the truth. This conflicts with what Hegseth. who said categorically that the Russians are assisting the Iranians.

https://www.the-independent.co...an-aid-b3021251.html
 
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fed161:
Asked whether Putin is helping Iran target Americans, President Trump said that he would ask Putin. He said he trusts Putin to tell the truth. This conflicts with what Hegseth. who said categorically that the Russians are assisting the Iranians.

No one with a half a brain would not think
Russia would assist Iran. Or China for that matter. Of course they would want to assist them.
We have been the primary reason ukraine is still fighting them.



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