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If real life were like the spy shows, it would be a Trojan horse with a tracking beacon that allowed guided missiles to home in on it.
Cut out the middleman and track it via mushroom cloud (ie fill with RDX and ball bearings then detonate).



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"60 Minutes" interview with the F-15E WSO who evaded capture for two days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNhO1Umj1so&t=6s
 
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Don't they want to be calling him a war criminal or something? Or has Bari Weiss actually had a positive effect on these shit heads?
 
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...Or has Bari Weiss actually had a positive effect on these shit heads?


Based on this one segment, it appears that she has successfully cleaned house at 60 Minutes. I did not watch it on TV, found it on You Tube. I linked to the 28-minute version, there is also one that's closer to 15 minutes. I do not know which appeared on TV.
 
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Weiss likely took the tact that she'll take any and all resignations after establishing the ground rules, and wouldn't stop anybody from walking. Then there's Scott Pelley who channeled his inner-Ron Burgundy and clowned himself into a firing.

Nora O'Donnell I'm guessing is 60-minutes lead anchor, being an Army brat she's familiar with the military and how it operates, nonetheless she's many-decades into the Beltway-Media machine and is no friend to anyone of any conservative persuasion. Surprised she didn't blurt out a laugh as her guest described his faith and how he got through his survival situation.
 
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This is the pipeline I've posted about several times in this thread that allowed the Saudis to bypass the Strait of Hormuz, and load supertankers in the port on the Red Sea.

Unfortunately, crude oil prices are likely to get even more speculative than they already are which will trickle down to gasoline and diesel prices.
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Satellite images show extent of damage to major Saudi pipeline, amid global oil supply fears

Saudis yet to provide details about damage from drone attack to key east-west pipeline to Red Sea that could affect 4% of global oil supply

{Check out the pic of damage in the actual linked story}

Mark Saunokonoko and agencies
Sun 13 Sep 2026 22.44 EDT

Saudi Arabia will run out of oil ⁠stocks for export if it ⁠doesn’t restart a drone-damaged major ​pipeline to the Red Sea within days, leading to the loss of up to 4% of global supply, Saudi oil buyers and traders said.

Satellite photos released on Sunday night appeared to show a pumping station on the key 1,200km (745-mile) Saudi east-west pipeline charred and badly damaged, after drone attacks on Friday.

A further decline in oil flow from Saudi Arabia, the world largest oil exporter, will worsen the ⁠global supply crunch, which has already pushed global fuel prices to record highs and spurred inflation around the world.

The news comes as Yemen’s Iran-aligned Houthi forces have launched attacks on targets in Saudi Arabia and captured the strategic island of Perim in the Bab al-Mandab strait, expanding their control of the narrow waterway.

On Sunday, the international oil benchmark, Brent crude, rose more than 3.4% to $108 per barrel, a level not seen since May.

Since the drone attacks forced the shutdown of the pipeline, Riyadh has yet to provide full details about the extent of the damage or how long the ​route will stay offline. The Saudis blamed the attack on drones launched by militants in Iraq.

Sources that spoke to Reuters gave varying estimates, ‌with one saying the damage could take ‌up to six weeks to repair, while another said it could be fixed sooner and could resume pumping partially while ‌repairs are ongoing.

Saudi Arabia’s government media office and energy ministry did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Two officials who spoke on condition of anonymity to the Associated Press said the pipeline would be mostly out of service for weeks.

For the past six months, the pipeline running through the desert across the Arabian Peninsula has spared Saudi Arabia from the brunt of the impact of the wartime shutdown of the strait of Hormuz that has crippled exports from its neighbours.

The world’s biggest exporter has used the pipeline to reroute around 4m barrels per day – about 4% of global supply – to the port of Yanbu on the Red Sea.

But with the ‌pipeline out of service, Yanbu now has stocks to maintain exports for just five to seven days, according to three industry sources familiar with Saudi exports.

Saudi Arabia also has stocks to supply customers for several days from ​Egypt’s ports of Ain Sukhna on the Red Sea and Sidi Kerir on the Mediterranean, a fourth source said.

Stocks are not full and will ultimately run out without the east-west pipeline resuming operations, the four sources said.

As the price of oil climbed, hopes for a diplomatic breakthrough in the near term faded when Oman’s foreign minister, Sayyid Badr Albusaidi, posted late Sunday that a regional meeting scheduled for Monday had been postponed “in the interests of consensus”.

Iranian officials had said they would attend that gathering with Gulf Arab states to present ⁠an agreement with Oman on governing shipping routes through the strait of Hormuz.

The strait was free to transit before the war, but Iran now requires vessels to obtain permission and is considering a mechanism to impose service fees.

The disruptions to crude has driven up prices across refined derivatives such as petrol and diesel. Diesel prices in the US hit a record on Friday, soaring past $6 a gallon on average.

The Houthis are targeting Saudi oil infrastructure and shipping as part of a recently declared blockade. Recent advances by the Iran-aligned group puts them closer to a major US base in Djibouti.

The spiralling conflict in the Middle East is now in its seventh month, after US and Israel launched attacks on Iran on 28 February and Donald Trump declared the war would finished in four to six weeks.



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For those with the knowledge...would a radar controlled anti-aircraft system like the CIWS possibly be a solution for these drone attacks? I realize that the system itself is definitely expensive, and it would probably require several to cover a facility like the pumping station above, but launching a stream of bullets is certainly cheaper than a missile. You'd think it would be worth the investment for critical infrastructure like that.


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The challenge with how Iran is attacking is two-fold:
1) the drones they're using are small, fly low to the ground thus they're very hard to track and can be made cheaply and in quantity so, you shoot-down 20 or 30 of them, and five get through, you're hoping the damage those leakers create is manageable. Nightly attacks over a week at those metrics will result in a lot of smoking ruins.
2) They're using ballistic missiles, where the warhead is coming in at hypersonic speeds. There are very few defensive systems in existence that can knock-out a re-entry vehicle dropping in through the atmosphere. Not only are these systems few numbers but they're eye-wateringly expensive and it takes a long time to build and assemble. Iran is using an extreme example of a high-low weapons mix.

A CIWS like the Navy's Phalanx or Army's version called C-RAM can spit-out a high-volume of fire in a self-contained unit but, they're only good for 2-4 engagements before they need to be reloaded and that takes time. The modern replacement like Rolling-Airframe-Missle and SeaRAM are capable but, they're in the mid- to high six figures and once they've gone Winchester it takes time to reload. Counter-drone systems like Coyote and Roadrunner are operational and much more cost effective however we've yet to hear if there's been any successes; considering the rapid evolution of drone-tech, I imagine such info will be tight-lipped for some time.
 
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How about EMP weapons?


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How about EMP weapons?
It would fry the command and control system for the oil & gas infrastructure. In my 30 years in the industry, I haven't seen any of surface electronics be EMP proof.



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I thought that they had developed one that is directional, sending out an invisible beam at a target vs. sending out a pulse and frying anything within a certain radius.


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I believe they classify the directional "cannons" as HPMs (high-powered microwaves) which is different than the destructive E3 waves from a EMP weapon (e.g. like the ones from Report of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack).



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Sounds like they need to roll out high power lasers. I heard the USN is protecting it's nuclear carriers with lasers. Apparently it costs a few dollars to shoot down a drone.



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One answer is swarms of low cost, rapid produced/fielded drones with small explosive charge or other means of "kill", deployed quickly and exploiting AI to seek, target, engage and destroy, enemy terminal targeted drones.

Hunter/killer drones.

Lasers, EMP, CWIZ, ABM systems are too little, too late in the reality of the moment of attack.


Drones employed as an array, that can rapidly shift, acting like a screen defense.
Or, drones that are actively "seek and destroy", in various methods of deployment. Deploy, land, wait/loiter (solar charge) until a near threat is realized and either autonomous engagement, or "human controlled".

And more.

The cost up front to make this happen, is much less than than cost of what will be realized after the fact to deal with the fallout of not mitigating the threat now.

I spent the better part of my life in the USAF in Weapons Development and Testing and I am a "pattern recognition expert".

The dilemma is trying to engage and get the "people smarter than everyone else" (who have the control over process/solving the problem/s) to see what they can't see...

Hunter/killer drones, in swarms or individual, with the means to "land" and (solar) recharge, and be continually capable to "change orders" deployed in tremendous numbers can tilt the power on the battlefield with extreme results in favor of those deploying such technology.




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Very interesting discussion about the October Surprises:



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This war needs to stop . These gas prices are going to kill the Republicans in the mid terms. I think that's why Iran keeps stirring the pot. They want a more favorable Congress and eventually , President. They'll take the beating a while longer to accomplish that .
 
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The Iran war is "over there" but gas prices are here. People feel the gas prices pain and don't care much else besides shrinking dollars. I'm already paying nearly $2 more for a gallon than before this shit show started. And there's very little Trump can do to lower prices that wull have a positive impact on prices to affect the election. Any administration needs at least 60 days for policy to translate into street level results, and early voting is already taking place.
 
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If we are energy independent why are we tied to OPEC pricing?

The oil industry is going to suck us dry and cost the republicans the mid terms. They’re going to get democrats back into the driver seat and then they’re going to don’t the country what Newscum did to California.
 
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