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The jury only need one to disagree to hang things up. Wisconsin is a state that votes both ways so it's likely, especially in a city, that there are a higher percentage of Democrat voters.
There are three individual shootings in this case. The George Zimmerman trial involved one and it took them two days to decide. The jurors must know that this high profile case is being closely watched and are probably being extra cautious to not appear hasty in their decision.


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Can we just stop the click bait reports and updates? There is no way a US Marshall had communications with two jurors on this case. Period. End of story. Arguendo, if it had happened, he/she would have reached out to the court and it would have come out in open court.

Finally, we do not know if the jury is deadlocked. Nobody does. If and until the judge issues an Allen charge, it is pure speculation about what is or is not happening on this claim. Period!


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And how will a UNITED STATES DEPUTY MARSHAL know what is being discussed inside the jury room of a STATE OF WISCONSIN criminal case?

I don't disagree that there are likely jurors concerned about backlash, but that video isn't believable.





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now the judge is talking about the ceiling of the courtroom. 100 years old.

Hey judge, you are railroading an 18 yo kid. Get your head straight
 
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Who is he talking to about that?
 
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The O.J. jury acquitted him in four hours, and O.J. was practically covered in blood. This jury can't acquit in two days. It's a disgrace.



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The O.J. jury acquitted him in four hours, and O.J. was practically covered in blood. This jury can't acquit in two days. It's a disgrace.


It's pretty safe to guess there's not going to be a verdict. Going back for second trial I'm guessing.



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It's pretty safe to guess there's not going to be a verdict. Going back for second trial I'm guessing.


No way there will be a 2nd trial.


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It's pretty safe to guess there's not going to be a verdict. Going back for second trial I'm guessing.


No way there will be a 2nd trial.


Why?



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I think it is too soon to call.
 
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Why?


Just my opinion.

If the Jury is in the end hopelessly deadlocked, can the Judge then decide to call a mistrial with prejudice citing the gross behavior of the prosecutors? I think he can and he will.

But just my opinion.


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To think that jurors may not acquit because they're afraid of riots breaking out in their city or afraid of personal retribution against them despite what they know to be the right decision is very frustrating. Of course I understand it. It occurred to me that such a person should realize that while their city was being burned to the ground, Kyle was one of the few people trying to defend it. This case has me so frustrated.



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To think that jurors may not acquit because they're afraid of riots breaking out in their city or afraid of personal retribution against them despite what they know to be the right decision is very frustrating. Of course I understand it. It occurred to me that such a person should realize that while their city was being burned to the ground, Kyle was one of the few people trying to defend it. This case has me so frustrated.


I can understand. From the beginning, I was willing to be on a jury except in cases involving gang members.



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I hope I am wrong but this judge doesn't have the courage to call mistrial w prejudice.

Kyle could use some best wishes and prayers.
 
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So much in play here. Not just Kyle's life and his righteous actions that night, but the right to defend oneself in the face of documented lethal threats. Not just for Kyle, I want an acquittal knowing BLM/Antifa will act out again. I want to believe the country is in no mood to tolerate these MFers any more. I want the Biden administration to have to deal with that crap squarely in its lap.




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I want the Biden administration to have to deal with that crap squarely in its lap.

I'm kinda surprised that Uncah Hoe hasn't done this already. It makes them look bad, not whoever the Reps run for Congress in '22 or President in '24.

Then again, I have yet to figure out why even Dem local governments would simply turn a blind eye to all that rioting.

Hell, I can't even figure out why the government of the city I live in has such a hard on for high murder and violent crime rates as well as turning the city into a shithole by insisting the homeless could camp out under freeways.
 
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Pushing and shoving thus far. Nothing too dramatic. Typical screaming when one is cuffed and put into the van.
 
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I hope I am wrong but this judge doesn't have the courage to call mistrial w prejudice.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the defense even asked for that, which makes me wonder why.


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Why?


Just my opinion.

If the Jury is in the end hopelessly deadlocked, can the Judge then decide to call a mistrial with prejudice citing the gross behavior of the prosecutors? I think he can and he will.

But just my opinion.


I don't know enough about law to say that won't happen, so I guess I'll just have to wait and see. I'm guessing there will be no unanimous verdict still.



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