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It’s with the jury now…


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Maybe if someone attacked and beat the shit out of him with one, he’d change his tune. I’ve seen skateboards do serious damage in numerous videos.
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Members of the jury know that too. It makes him look like a fool.
 
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They are basically a 1x3' of 1/2" thick plywood with a handle and hitting anyone with the edge of that could do serious harm.
I'm surprised the defense didn't bring in a similar item for the jurors to see and handle and feel the weight.

There are plenty of examples of injuries or death and people being charged for similar use.

https://abc7.com/starbucks-fig...-skateboard/1098183/


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It’s with the jury now…


Give the jurors time for some free donuts & coffee, courtesy of the county, or maybe even another free lunch, then they'll come out with the "Not Guilty on all counts" verdict.

(I hope.)


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This whole left/right handed AR argument is nonsense, and the defense is lucky they got away with it. Every AR since the A2 configuration has had a built in brass deflector for lefties. That argument could have blown up in their face. They should have just left it with the fact that Kyle was holding the rifle right handed, not that the rifle couldn’t be fired left handed. When in the Army, I fired my M16 left handed many times, and the Army didn’t issue left handed rifles, at least not to us regular grunts.

Yes I have been shooting AR's, M4's and various other semi auto rifles left handed all my adult life. You would think they would educate themselves on such things before making such pronouncements, but the arrogance displayed throughout this trial is a barrier to knowledge.


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Jen Psaki was asked by Fox News’ Peter Doocy during her daily press briefing why Biden previously characterized Rittenhouse as a White supremacist in a campaign video during the 2020 presidential election

"So, Peter, what I'm not going to speak to right now is anything about an ongoing trial, nor the president's past comments," Psaki responded. "What I can reiterate for you is the president's view that we shouldn't have, broadly speaking, vigilantes patrolling our communities with assault weapons. We shouldn't have opportunists corrupting peaceful protests by rioting and burning down the communities they claim to represent anywhere in the country."

Doocy pushed back, saying the president had already weighed in on the ongoing case.

"I just have nothing more to speak to an ongoing case where the closing arguments were just made," Psaki replied, adding that the Department of Justice's Community Relations Service was prepared to assist the city of Kenosha, Wisconsin, if protests break out over the verdict.

"President Biden ran on a promise to bring Americans together and to turn down the temperature on the angry, divisive rhetoric and actions we saw over the past four years,"

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and he has done such a terrific job of bringing us together by saying 6 Jan was caused by "white supremacy"

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The twelve (12) person jury that is set now is made of seven (7) women and five (5) men.

Wonder how the "everyone has to take a beating sometime" will play out with the ladies.

If anyone on the jury has been a victim of domestic abuse, or even more likely, know someone who has, that line by the ADA is not going to go over well.
 
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The destructive part of a skateboard is not so much the size and shape of the board as it is the trucks. Hit someone with that and with leverage of length and momentum of an attacking opposition and that can certainly be deadly. Combatant skateboarders know their toy is a weapon too.



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They are basically a 1x3' of 1/2" thick plywood with a handle and hitting anyone with the edge of that could do serious harm.
I'm surprised the defense didn't bring in a similar item for the jurors to see and handle and feel the weight.

There are plenty of examples of injuries or death and people being charged for similar use.

https://abc7.com/starbucks-fig...-skateboard/1098183/
I'm pretty surprised the defense didn't make any kind of presentation regarding just how dangerous that skateboard hit could have been, since one of the dead guys used one to assault him. Missed opportunity there... Just assuming the jury has an appreciation for the uses of one as a weapon is somewhat of a misstep IMO.


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Oh stewardess,
I speak jive.
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The ADA is as unfamiliar with skateboards as he is with fighting as he is with firearms.

It's hard to watch such outright buffoonery and lies on the part of "the state".
 
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I watched the closing arguments last night, and I was shocked at how bad the prosecution's final statement was.

One thing I'll give credit to Binger for is that he is articulate and composed. He's a good public speaker. Watching Krauss deliver the final argument was painful in both delivery & content. He came across like a nervous, unprepared first-year HS debate team member struggling to plead his case. Now I know why he let Binger do most of the talking.
 
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I watched the closing arguments last night, and I was shocked at how bad the prosecution's final statement was.

One thing I'll give credit to Binger for is that he is articulate and composed. He's a good public speaker. Watching Krauss deliver the final argument was painful in both delivery & content. He came across like a nervous, unprepared first-year HS debate team member struggling to plead his case. Now I know why he let Binger do most of the talking.
I mean, he's the one that did the facepalm, sooo... Smile


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I like what a couple of folks, including Jonathan Turley said last night.

Paraphrasing a bit:

“In a lawsuit you are always either winning or losing; if you’re winning your closing arguments don’t go on for two plus hours.”





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Man dies after being hit with skateboard

I recalled this and found it in one click. Seems like the DA didn't check his facts.


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Man dies after being hit with skateboard

I recalled this and found it in one click. Seems like the DA didn't check his facts.
I'll say it again, the defense didn't do a very good job making a point of it either.


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That's being too nice.

He did an appalling job, a ludicrously poor job, an embarrassingly fucking ridiculous job, and one that ought to haunt him / them both for decades.

No one in his / their position is that wrong accidentally. He knows he's full of shit, or he's so lazy as to not even check it out for himself.

Both are inexcusable. Each prosecutor here deserves to be disbarred, for life, maybe jailed (philosophically, if not legally).
 
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Branca on Legal Insurrection thinks the defense closing argument was not good for Kyle.


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Branca on Legal Insurrection thinks the defense closing argument was not good for Kyle.


The defense was terrible over-all.

Richards closing in comparison the the rest of his performance was good in my opinion.

I'm not sure he can pronounce or spell "objection"
 
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Human nature dictates that we listen to people we like. The defense wins that one hands down. Binger is not a very likeable fellow. Much like Little Finger. Kraus fumbles over his words. I am looking forward to the verdict.
 
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Although I think reasonable people would conclude that Rittenhouse was not guilty, one cannot assume that the jury is composed of reasonable people. I'm sure the Defense attorneys attempted to insure that the jury was acceptable, but one never knows for sure.

I haven't followed the trial closely, getting my news mostly from SF. Fox News had done a fair job of putting forth some of the details, too, and their coverage pretty much agrees with what has been presented here.

Now we will see what the jury decides.

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