The great silent majority has "finally"found one of their own.( as shown by the poll numbers) Someone who speaks the truth as he see's it and stands by what he say's. Yes he is a rich fat cat, a egomaniac and a smart ass. So? He's up front about those things. I'm quite sure as most of us are of his short comings. But professional politicians just need to go away, find a new occupation and let us breath freedom. This is supposed to be the land of the free and home of the brave. Too many of our forefathers and mothers have died and or paid dearly for this great nation. It's time to take back control back from the self serving bastards we have to chose from now. We are tired of the lies and broken promises from both sides. We are tired of electing the same bullshit over and over again and expecting this time will be different,( the truest definition of insanity) this time they will be honest, this time they will do what they say they will do. It's no wonder so few vote anymore It's way,way past time for a Political reset.

"Trump 2016"

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Originally posted by HRK:
The problem I see is everyone talking about liking the person wtf does that have to do with choosing a person that is good to do the job, I'm looking at values plans, attitude, ability, experience and commitment

The "like" crap got us zero

I think what people are trying to say in this thread is that we need something different. Lets take Romney. He had values, a pretty good attitude, he certainly had the ability and experience and as far as I could tell, he had commitment. How did that work out for him?

I'm not saying that those attributes are a bad thing at all, what I am saying is that they alone are not enough. Romney had no clue on how to win nor did he have the ability to rally the base. It seems Trump does.

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professional politicians just need to go away, find a new occupation and let us breath freedom.

precisely.

most of them, at least.

far too many of the ones we have now don't even read all of the laws they vote on, for fuck's sake. how that fact alone hasn't ended their careers already is outrageous, and indicative of how much of a joke most of it has become. I don't care how busy you are, how popular you are, how important you are, when your fucking job, when nearly the whole fucking point of your job in the first place, is to make the Laws that govern us, read the goddamn things, more than once, know them, every word, every motherfucking comma, like your life depended on it. at the very least, you generally worthless pieces of shit...

whether by Trumps trumpeting or any other sane method, we need to run these assholes out of office, the liars, the thieves, the do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do dickheads, which is most of them.

What do you think of those #BlackLivesMatter girls who took Bernie Sanders microphone away from him?




Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEuZ9EAmaow

Trump released a new video commercial today...Not on my watch!




Link to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-XatucAwkg

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Originally posted by a1abdj:
I just wish Trump would go away so we can get back to the business of deciding between Jeb and Hillary.

... and without Trump shaking things up, that's exactly where we were headed.

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Trump is a finger pointing at the big, steaming pile of shit the government has dumped on us, especially these past 7 years.

And the MSM, the "pundits," and most of the other politicians are looking at the pointing finger, jabbering and yammering about the pointing finger, criticizing, attacking and ridiculing the pointing finger-- oblivious to the pile of shit. Millions of Americans are hopping mad about that pile of shit, and the MSM, the pundits and most politicians, are totally clueless.

Yes, point at the shit!
Say how much it stinks!
Don't let Jeb tell you it will stink any less when he's the one excreting the shit. It will still be the same shit.

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump said Friday he will release more detailed policy proposals on immigration and reforming the U.S. tax code next month. "urll Link"

Trump told reporters in Hampton, New Hampshire, that he has "some of the most brilliant people in the country working on tax, which I'm involved in very much because I understand the system very well. Probably better than anybody that's ever run for office, if you want to know the truth, because I am part of the system."

As for immigration, Trump also said he has some "amazing people" working on the issue, and that he would release the proposals over the next two or three weeks.

"Probably some time over September," he said.

The Washington Post first reported Friday that Trump was planning on releasing details of the plans ahead of the next Republican debate on Sept. 16, including his oft-repeated pledge to build a wall between the U.S. and Mexico.

"If you look back, everybody, most of the Democrats, they desperately wanted the wall built. They liked the concept of a wall," Trump told the Post. "But they couldn't get it built. You know one of the reasons they couldn't build it? The environmental impact statements. They couldn't get through because of the environment. Well, that's what I'm the king of -- I can get things built for half-cost, for one-fourth cost, and it'll be better."

Trump said he collaborated with Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions on the immigration policy paper. Sessions, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee's subcommittee on immigration, is popular with tea party conservatives for his hard stances on securing the U.S.-Mexico border.

"I like him," Trump said of Sessions. "Tough guy. I like that. We have a similar thought process."

Trump's tax policy will focus on keeping companies from fleeing the U.S. to do business because of high tax rates and penalties, the Post reported.

"There is $2.5 trillion of money outside the country that they want to bring back but they don't want to pay a 35% tax. You wouldn't do it. So, they go out to get it and move the company out," he said. "Inversion is a huge subject and Obama has done nothing about it. Republicans and Democrats can't get it done."

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Originally posted by Protein anchor:


I don't have all the answers - but I'm pretty tired of all the bullshit coming out of DC. Some of you are really stuck on him being a dick - and he is - I get it. But, maybe we all need some dick.

You know what I mean.

The only dick I need is my I own

In all seriousness, this might as well be a reality show. It won't last and when you look back on this in a year it will all just have been a waste of time. Chump has been around a while and knows how to push people's buttons and rile everyone up. Circus sideshow.

Trump's press conference yesterday was awesome!


"I've been attacked by Perry of Texas and he went Bing!!!! Like a rocket ship, except in the wrong direction."


Hahahaha!!!

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Originally posted by Protein anchor:

In all seriousness, this might as well be a reality show. It won't last and when you look back on this in a year it will all just have been a waste of time. Chump has been around a while and knows how to push people's buttons and rile everyone up. Circus sideshow.

I think this reality show "is the real reality". Some of you guy's and Gal's are going to be in shock when he win's. You think he has lost so much of his time and money to play a game? He's not serious? Some of you who think we are delusional are type casting this man. He will be the next President. Would be better to wrap your mind around it now than later. Here drink some of this it will help ease the disbelief.

Is it possible Trump's popularity will not wane through November of next year? It is, of course. Is it likely he will be able to retain his momentum for that long? With the American public, whose attention span averages a mere 1.36 Kardashian Units? No, I don't think so.

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most of them, at least.

And that's the point where we always run into trouble trying to apply the theory to practice in the real world. "My guy's OK, but yours is an asshole." Then we discover there isn't much consensus on who's an asshole so the only thing to do is wait for an election, then we have an election, and then the whole process starts all over again from Square One.

I think Trump has a good chance of continuing his popularity if 2 things happen imo.
He continues to hit on the issues in a way people want to hear. He needs to stay out of the personality conflicts. Megyan self destructed. All he needed to do was point that out and let it go. But that's not Trump he likes those sort of pissing matches.

2 the GOP and media need to continue to attack him rather than block him out. He seems to thrive on this and so do the people.
As I said before if something else comes along say for instance this black lives matter idiotic thing and they try to run him off stage and Trump turns it on them, well that could take his popularity to new heights and carry him a long ways.

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Megyan self destructed. All he needed to do was point that out and let it go. But that's not Trump he likes those sort of pissing matches.

I agree, and I think this is Trump's biggest challenge. If he can avoid this pitfall, and keep hitting the issues, he'll be around well into the new year.

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
I think Trump has a good chance of continuing his popularity if 2 things happen imo.
He continues to hit on the issues in a way people want to hear. He needs to stay out of the personality conflicts. Megyan self destructed. All he needed to do was point that out and let it go. But that's not Trump he likes those sort of pissing matches.

2 the GOP and media need to continue to attack him rather than block him out. He seems to thrive on this and so do the people.
As I said before if something else comes along say for instance this black lives matter idiotic thing and they try to run him off stage and Trump turns it on them, well that could take his popularity to new heights and carry him a long ways.

Let's just say, for giggles, that he does that, and the Anerican people do that, and come January 20, 2017 at noon, he is sworn in, watches the parade, then heads back to his new office. There he is, The Donald, sitting behind that big desk, where Kennedy sat and John-John played, and LBJ agonized over the war, and Nixon wasn't a crook, Jimmy Carter was "an incomplete success" and the rest of them fussed and fumed and cajoled Congress to do their bidding.

Now what?

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Originally posted by JALLEN:

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
I think Trump has a good chance of continuing his popularity if 2 things happen imo.
He continues to hit on the issues in a way people want to hear. He needs to stay out of the personality conflicts. Megyan self destructed. All he needed to do was point that out and let it go. But that's not Trump he likes those sort of pissing matches.

2 the GOP and media need to continue to attack him rather than block him out. He seems to thrive on this and so do the people.
As I said before if something else comes along say for instance this black lives matter idiotic thing and they try to run him off stage and Trump turns it on them, well that could take his popularity to new heights and carry him a long ways.

Let's just say, for giggles, that he does that, and the Anerican people do that, and come January 20, 2017 at noon, he is sworn in, watches the parade, then heads back to his new office. There he is, The Donald, sitting behind that big desk, where Kennedy sat and John-John played, and LBJ agonized over the war, and Nixon wasn't a crook, Jimmy Carter was "an incomplete success" and the rest of them fussed and fumed and cajoled Congress to do their bidding.

Now what?

Now what what??? Its obvious that you don't like him and the idea of him. You act as if the others in the race somehow deserve it more than him. As if they will magically know what to do. So what do you want? Put Bush in so we can get more years of crappy policy and business as usual?

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Originally posted by EmpireState:

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Originally posted by JALLEN:

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
I think Trump has a good chance of continuing his popularity if 2 things happen imo.
He continues to hit on the issues in a way people want to hear. He needs to stay out of the personality conflicts. Megyan self destructed. All he needed to do was point that out and let it go. But that's not Trump he likes those sort of pissing matches.

2 the GOP and media need to continue to attack him rather than block him out. He seems to thrive on this and so do the people.
As I said before if something else comes along say for instance this black lives matter idiotic thing and they try to run him off stage and Trump turns it on them, well that could take his popularity to new heights and carry him a long ways.

Let's just say, for giggles, that he does that, and the Anerican people do that, and come January 20, 2017 at noon, he is sworn in, watches the parade, then heads back to his new office. There he is, The Donald, sitting behind that big desk, where Kennedy sat and John-John played, and LBJ agonized over the war, and Nixon wasn't a crook, Jimmy Carter was "an incomplete success" and the rest of them fussed and fumed and cajoled Congress to do their bidding.

Now what?

Now what what??? Its obvious that you don't like him and the idea of him. You act as if the others in the race somehow deserve it more than him. As if they will magically know what to do. So what do you want? Put Bush in so we can get more years of crappy policy and business as usual?

Not exactly. I'm willing to entertain the idea at least. "Deserve" has nothing to do with it.

It is more or less agreed that nobody has ever seen anything like this. OK, then what we need is to think long and hard about what it will be like, can it really work, might it really be better then before, or make things worse?

Everybody in the race has some good points, and some not that great ones. Do we just go by press clippings, or ought we examine the alternatives, compare and contrast, come to a reasoned, mature judgment? Maybe we should do like we always seem to do, and splinter on a number of candidates, refusing to consider or vote for alternatives to our own fair haired boy (or girl) and let the God Damned Commies take it again.

Let's think about this.

The issue with the Donald as I see it is no one understands where his moral center (and what informs it) lies. He cannot even explain. That's why everyone else is "stupid" or a "loser". Qualitative assessments without substance. Worse is his real track record of supporting liberal NYC policies.

At least with a true Conservative like Cruz, we believe that we share similar ideals and policy foundations.

With Trump, it's all personality with no moral focus for policy creation/execution. Unpredictable for any sense of direction for our hurting/flailing nation.

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Originally posted by JALLEN:

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Originally posted by EmpireState:

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Originally posted by JALLEN:

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
I think Trump has a good chance of continuing his popularity if 2 things happen imo.
He continues to hit on the issues in a way people want to hear. He needs to stay out of the personality conflicts. Megyan self destructed. All he needed to do was point that out and let it go. But that's not Trump he likes those sort of pissing matches.

2 the GOP and media need to continue to attack him rather than block him out. He seems to thrive on this and so do the people.
As I said before if something else comes along say for instance this black lives matter idiotic thing and they try to run him off stage and Trump turns it on them, well that could take his popularity to new heights and carry him a long ways.

Let's just say, for giggles, that he does that, and the Anerican people do that, and come January 20, 2017 at noon, he is sworn in, watches the parade, then heads back to his new office. There he is, The Donald, sitting behind that big desk, where Kennedy sat and John-John played, and LBJ agonized over the war, and Nixon wasn't a crook, Jimmy Carter was "an incomplete success" and the rest of them fussed and fumed and cajoled Congress to do their bidding.

Now what?

Now what what??? Its obvious that you don't like him and the idea of him. You act as if the others in the race somehow deserve it more than him. As if they will magically know what to do. So what do you want? Put Bush in so we can get more years of crappy policy and business as usual?

Not exactly. I'm willing to entertain the idea at least. "Deserve" has nothing to do with it.

It is more or less agreed that nobody has ever seen anything like this. OK, then what we need is to think long and hard about what it will be like, can it really work, might it really be better then before, or make things worse?

Everybody in the race has some good points, and some not that great ones. Do we just go by press clippings, or ought we examine the alternatives, compare and contrast, come to a reasoned, mature judgment? Maybe we should do like we always seem to do, and splinter on a number of candidates, refusing to consider or vote for alternatives to our own fair haired boy (or girl) and let the God Damned Commies take it again.

Let's think about this.

Ok. So who is your pick then?

I simply don't believe there is a material difference (in terms of the capacity to effectively hold and fulfill the office of the Presidency (or Congress, or a Governor, etc)) between someone like Trump and, say, 90% of every other elected politician or candidate in the last, say, 50+ years.

the Cruzs and Walkers and the like are promising, and I'm oretty sure I'd prefer them to Trump in the end, but they are equally untested at that level, and there is equal uncertainty that they can win it anyway.