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The next President will most certainly appoint one or more to the USSC. This will have a very long impact on all of us obviously. And that scares me.
 
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Keep in mind how and to what extent power is diffused in our system. It was done that way on purpose, to minimize, as much as possible, the risk of tyranny.

The people eventually get what they want, but it might not always be what you want, and it might not be "for their own good."

Electing a President who stands for everything you want doesn't get you very far, because the President has little power. As Truman pointed out,

"All the president is, is a glorified public relations man who spends his time flattering, kissing, and kicking people to get them to do what they are supposed to do anyway."

You should remember that El Diablo appointed scores of exceedingly well qualified men and women to the Federal courts, most of whom were left dangling, and a few of whom were confirmed because the Senate, almost equally divided, was neutered by a gang of liberal Senators, Kennedy, Schumer, Leahy, Durbin and others who absolutely would not permit any vote on any nominee who had ever expressed the slightest sympathy for any hint of thinking that maybe it might be useful to consider rethinking Roe v. Wade. Those who were confirmed were good men and women but too few made it through confirmation.

That old political scientist Lyndon Johnson knew that "when you have the votes, they do things your way. When they have the votes, you do things their way." Nothing much happens in the Senate until you can get 60 votes. If the President approves of what those 60 are doing, fine. If not, you need 67.

Faced with these realities, conservatives wring their hands and form up into a circular firing squad. Socialists seldom kill off their own like conservatives do. As a result, they win a lot of elections and hold office, while the purists on the other side fret that their candidates aren't good enough and stay home, free of the burdens of holding office which gives them more time to complain.

I've come to admire Ted Cruz. When something stinks, he says "Phew." That's great, but in doing so, he has almost certainly offended so many of his colleagues, many of whom stink, that he will have a hard time getting things done. "When you have the votes, they do things your way."

Furthermore, things seldom change overnight, from dark to light. It takes awhile. Voters have been turning to Republicans in local and state offices in ever increasing numbers in recent years. I remember when the county Republicans here could meet in one man's living room and none held elective office. A small man showed up in my dad's business one day and said he would like some help meeting the locals. He and my dad had gone to college together. That man was John Tower and he took advantage of LBJs vanity, and Democrat chutzpah, to take a Senate seat, the first GOP Senator from the old south in nearly 100 years. It took a couple of decades, but now almost every seat is in GOP hands.

The doper dirtball hippies of the '60's have been running wild for some time, a few have been in jail and some are headed there. Our day will come, if we keep working on it, not stay home in disgust.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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The next President will most certainly appoint one or more to the USSC. This will have a very long impact on all of us obviously. And that scares me.


This alone ought to sober up all the handwringers and naysayers to get behind the nominee, whoever it may be. If the Clintonistas do the picking, the country is going to look a lot more like Whackyland, and if you are unhappy now, you ain't seen nothing yet!




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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The next President will most certainly appoint one or more to the USSC. This will have a very long impact on all of us obviously. And that scares me.


Sorry, but not a valid argument. Bush gave us Roberts, who gave us 0-Care. Twice.
 
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The next President will most certainly appoint one or more to the USSC. This will have a very long impact on all of us obviously. And that scares me.


This alone ought to sober up all the handwringers and naysayers to get behind the nominee, whoever it may be. If the Clintonistas do the picking, the country is going to look a lot more like Whackyland, and if you are unhappy now, you ain't seen nothing yet!


You're right. It should be sobering but most republican voters can't see that far ahead. At this point I'm not even sure they understand the primary process. It's coming up soon. Not November 2016.

The republicans are playing checkers and the democrats are playing chess.
 
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republican voters?

who are they?

democrat lite voters and RINOS?

show me a real republican

we didn't leave the republican party

they left us

got fooled twice, not going to get fooled again - that would be a very poor reflection on myself, my personal integrity and my morals

Trump is serving a purpose

I like his message



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^ That's an interesting point. Just caught him on the news saying just that. I guess it's just not the norm in a political race. It will be interesting to see if he wins on Trust alone with no actual plans laid out.



Trump is giving out some specifics. Secure the border, build a wall. Healthcare buying across state lines. Working for better trade deals that don't hurt average Americans. All of these problems seem to have pretty clear solutions that the average American knows what needs to be done. The problem is letting it get into the hands of career politicians that will play games and not solve anything.
 
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The next President will most certainly appoint one or more to the USSC. This will have a very long impact on all of us obviously. And that scares me.


Sorry, but not a valid argument. Bush gave us Roberts, who gave us 0-Care. Twice.



It is a valid argument. Roberts turned out to be a bad choice. Look at Obama's two picks though. Do you think there is anyway possible of them not ruling in the most left-wing way possible? If the next president puts in a Thomas or Alito, we'd be in great shape.
 
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Trump is giving out some specifics. Secure the border, build a wall.



You call that specifics? No blueprints? No permits? No environmental impact statements? Wink


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Trump is giving out some specifics. Secure the border, build a wall.



You call that specifics? No blueprints? No permits? No environmental impact statements? Wink



That is specific. Its what every thinking American absolutely knows has to be done. The other stuff is the part about politicians playing games. Its why we are sick of them in general. Marco Rubio should have been laughed off the stage when he said that they would tunnel under it. So basically he is saying that there is nothing we can do. Typical politician.
 
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I remember when president downgrade gave detailed specifics of how he was going to accomplish his promises and goals during his first presidential campaign...



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Would I rather have a Republican Justice as opposed to a Democrat Juatice? Of course. But look at the liberal, big .gov loving Justices appointed by RINO Republicans.

So, electing ANY Repulican is NOT a guarantee of getting conservative Justices.

I have a very hard time believing Jeb! or Krispy Kreme would nominate conservative Justices. They like to "reach across the asile".
 
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Trump is giving out some specifics. Secure the border, build a wall.



You call that specifics? No blueprints? No permits? No environmental impact statements? Wink



That is specific. Its what every thinking American absolutely knows has to be done. The other stuff is the part about politicians playing games. Its why we are sick of them in general. Marco Rubio should have been laughed off the stage when he said that they would tunnel under it. So basically he is saying that there is nothing we can do. Typical politician.


That's not what he said "basically" at all. They will tunnel under it, without doubt. What he was saying was that a wall is not the end of the problem or a total solution, that you will need resources to counter that move. And to keep watch for submarines, etc. The desire to get here is intense, the money to get drugs in here is enormous and lucrative.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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They will tunnel under it, without doubt. What he was saying was that a wall is not the end of the problem or a total solution, that you will need resources to counter that move. And to keep watch for submarines, etc. The desire to get here is intense, the money to get drugs in here is enormous and lucrative.

No doubt. The wall is necessary, but only part of sealing the border.

I'm more worried about importing welfare recipients and GDC voters than I am about drugs.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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He's brash,rude and rough but he's been speaking the truth and the common guy on the street recognizes this. He got it right when he said, "I'm not politically correct" On deporting illegals: Eisenhower beat him to it. The invited Mexicans during World War Two were sent back..."so our veterans will have jobs."
 
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On deporting illegals: Eisenhower beat him to it. The invited Mexicans during World War Two were sent back..."so our veterans will have jobs."


Eisenhower didn't realize they needed the votes, and the God Damned Commies controlled Congress for ~40 years!




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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Trump is giving out some specifics. Secure the border, build a wall.



You call that specifics? No blueprints? No permits? No environmental impact statements? Wink



That is specific. Its what every thinking American absolutely knows has to be done. The other stuff is the part about politicians playing games. Its why we are sick of them in general. Marco Rubio should have been laughed off the stage when he said that they would tunnel under it. So basically he is saying that there is nothing we can do. Typical politician.


That's not what he said "basically" at all. They will tunnel under it, without doubt. What he was saying was that a wall is not the end of the problem or a total solution, that you will need resources to counter that move. And to keep watch for submarines, etc. The desire to get here is intense, the money to get drugs in here is enormous and lucrative.



Yeah, actually it is. When someone says to build a wall and you immediately shoot down the idea because someone can tunnel under it. So he is saying a wall won't work. What part of that don't you get? By the way, Rubio is a flip-flopping traitor on immigration issues so defend him all you want.
 
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Trump is giving out some specifics. Secure the border, build a wall.



You call that specifics? No blueprints? No permits? No environmental impact statements? Wink



That is specific. Its what every thinking American absolutely knows has to be done. The other stuff is the part about politicians playing games. Its why we are sick of them in general. Marco Rubio should have been laughed off the stage when he said that they would tunnel under it. So basically he is saying that there is nothing we can do. Typical politician.


That's not what he said "basically" at all. They will tunnel under it, without doubt. What he was saying was that a wall is not the end of the problem or a total solution, that you will need resources to counter that move. And to keep watch for submarines, etc. The desire to get here is intense, the money to get drugs in here is enormous and lucrative.


A well designed wall, or walls with a dead zone in the middle, would virtually stop the human traffic. Tunnels are expensive and can not be justified for the relative pennies made on smuggling humans across. Those that build them to funnel millions of dollars in drugs will not risk them being discovered by funneling people through at a few thousand per head.

Will people still get across, sure. Will they walk across by the hundreds each day like they do now, nope.


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Trump is giving out some specifics. Secure the border, build a wall.



You call that specifics? No blueprints? No permits? No environmental impact statements? Wink



That is specific. Its what every thinking American absolutely knows has to be done. The other stuff is the part about politicians playing games. Its why we are sick of them in general. Marco Rubio should have been laughed off the stage when he said that they would tunnel under it. So basically he is saying that there is nothing we can do. Typical politician.


That's not what he said "basically" at all. They will tunnel under it, without doubt. What he was saying was that a wall is not the end of the problem or a total solution, that you will need resources to counter that move. And to keep watch for submarines, etc. The desire to get here is intense, the money to get drugs in here is enormous and lucrative.



Yeah, actually it is. When someone says to build a wall and you immediately shoot down the idea because someone can tunnel under it. So he is saying a wall won't work. What part of that don't you get? By the way, Rubio is a flip-flopping traitor on immigration issues so defend him all you want.


Don't be so naive. Bumper sticker phrases are no substitute for thought.

That's not "shooting down the idea." It is useful to point out that merely building a wall is not the total solution, as I pointed out before.

The inflammatory language reveals more about you than it does Rubio.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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Trump is giving out some specifics. Secure the border, build a wall.



You call that specifics? No blueprints? No permits? No environmental impact statements? Wink



That is specific. Its what every thinking American absolutely knows has to be done. The other stuff is the part about politicians playing games. Its why we are sick of them in general. Marco Rubio should have been laughed off the stage when he said that they would tunnel under it. So basically he is saying that there is nothing we can do. Typical politician.


That's not what he said "basically" at all. They will tunnel under it, without doubt. What he was saying was that a wall is not the end of the problem or a total solution, that you will need resources to counter that move. And to keep watch for submarines, etc. The desire to get here is intense, the money to get drugs in here is enormous and lucrative.



Yeah, actually it is. When someone says to build a wall and you immediately shoot down the idea because someone can tunnel under it. So he is saying a wall won't work. What part of that don't you get? By the way, Rubio is a flip-flopping traitor on immigration issues so defend him all you want.


Don't be so naive. Bumper sticker phrases are no substitute for thought.

That's not "shooting down the idea." It is useful to point out that merely building a wall is not the total solution, as I pointed out before.

The inflammatory language reveals more about you than it does Rubio.



What inflammatory language? You bring up a point to try to tell us how Rubio is so savvy on immigration by understanding that you need more than just a wall. This is the "gang of 8" guy that was working hand in hand with democrats to legalize all the illegals. Even voted against amendments in the proposed bill to build a border fence. Rubio is a grade-A flip-flopper on immigration.


Then at the debate, instead of hammering home how much illegal immigrants screw this country up, his little bleeding heart brings up all those poor folks waiting to get in here.
 
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