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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Who is the football player who did those commercials where he came out of nowhere in business offices and body-slammed people?

That's who Trump needs.

That would be Terry Tate, office linebacker




Link to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5dJb2YG7vU

Damn, that's good shit! I somehow never saw that. It brightened my day, especially given the context of the current conversation.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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You think people are angry and fed up? Mmmmm.. Could be.

Yeah, Fox and the RNC have a crack team of monkeys working on this puzzler.

As long as their focus is on Trump and not what is really behind his popularity they will keep barking at the wrong tree. It could make people disgusted enough to vote for Trump or at least express that intention all the way up to the Primaries.

It doesn't matter what he said in the past or who he took selfies with. He's saying plainly what conservatives across this country want and in the way it should be said. Yeah, showmanship is important. Being a cheerleader is important. That's part of being a leader. Motivating people. Motivating your country. When someone goes on camera and says Hold your head up high America. Don't be ashamed. Be proud! And it doesn't like he's reading from a teleprompter I feel like About F'n Time!

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Originally posted by jhe888:
That article suggests Trump shouldn't rule out an independent candidacy.

If Trump did that, we should conclude he is a secret Democrat.

Or, if he gets cheated out of the candidacy by Bush's RINOs, he could run 3rd Party to beat the Clinton/Bush Cartel.

Then, let's hope Sanders gets prompted & runs as a Green Party. In a 4 way race like that, it's possible that the Dems & Repubs would be finishing 3rd & 4th place.

People that think Trump is a Trojan Horse or secret Democrat/undercover agent are lunatics.

Trump is a finger pointing at the big, steaming pile of shit the government has dumped on us, especially these past 7 years.

And the MSM, the "pundits," and most of the other politicians are looking at the pointing finger, jabbering and yammering about the pointing finger, criticizing, attacking and ridiculing the pointing finger-- oblivious to the pile of shit. Millions of Americans are hopping mad about that pile of shit, and the MSM, the pundits and most politicians, are totally clueless.

This is from an article about Trump storming Iowa, flocking to a bus with his name boldly on it, even though he himself wasn't even there:

"“One hundred people showing up for a staffer? I’ve never seen anything like it,” said Chuck Laudner, a veteran Iowa organizer who oversees Trump’s efforts here. “They kept saying the same thing: They want something different.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...33e6745d8_story.html

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Originally posted by maximus_flavius:


Or, if he gets cheated out of the candidacy by Bush's RINOs, he could run 3rd Party to beat the Clinton/Bush Cartel.

Then, let's hope Sanders gets prompted & runs as a Green Party. In a 4 way race like that, it's possible that the Dems & Repubs would be finishing 3rd & 4th place.

People that think Trump is a Trojan Horse or secret Democrat/undercover agent are lunatics.

You're smoking fuckin' dope. All any third party candidate does is allow the other party to defeat the candidate of the party the third party candidate is most closely aligned with.

No way third-party Trump beats Hillary Clinton. (No way GOP Trump beats Hillary, either, but that is a different thing.) He'd just fragment GOP voters and Hillary sails in. It is her dream scenario. That is why I said that if Trump runs an independent campaign, he is a secret Democrat.

See Ross Perot.

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Originally posted by justjoe:
Trump is a finger pointing at the big, steaming pile of shit the government has dumped on us, especially these past 7 years.

That is true. And some people are lapping it up. But that is all he is doing.

After what the repubs did to the tea party, they don't need help losing.

jhe, I know you're not a dull-witted man, but if you think all of this is full of sound and fury, signifying nothing, you are so wrong, you may never be right again.
Trump is controlling the narrative of Republican presidential hopefuls. He's pointing out the elephant (ain't I clever?) in the room.

Some of you guys need to get past your personal dislike of Trump and recognize that he is shaking things up and allowing the RNC to see just how pissed off we are, Trump says outrageous stuff, yet he survives. This is a good thing.

Or, would you rather we just have the usual?

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Originally posted by jhe888:

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Originally posted by justjoe:
Trump is a finger pointing at the big, steaming pile of shit the government has dumped on us, especially these past 7 years.

That is true. And some people are lapping it up. But that is all he is doing.

What else, of value / necessity / substance, is any other candidate, pundit, or news source doing?

But all Trump has done is come in and said, "The Democrats suck, most of the GOP sucks, government sucks, Mexico sucks, Megyn Kelly sucks, everyone (except me, The Donald) sucks."

And a lot of people agree with that. Hell, a lot of it is true.

But that isn't a campaign, and it isn't a President. It IS sound and fury. It isn't nothing, but it isn't anything more than a reflection of a feeling of dissatisfaction, ennui, and frustration.

What we need, and what Trump doesn't have, is a way out. He doesn't know how to be President, and he doesn't have a plan. Match someone with Trump's ability to capture people and someone who can actually be President, and you'll have something.

Maybe Trump is the fuse. He sure isn't the dynamite.

Maybe, to cautiously try another metaphor, he is a voice in the wilderness, preparing the way for one, greater than him, who will come later.

(The problem is that Trump is such an ego, that he won't get out of the way.)

It's not merely a choice between Trump and business as usual, either.

Walker has been kicking pretty good Commie butt, and Ted Cruz has been pointing out a few facts of life in the Senate. Cruz reminds me of what my grandmother often said about me: "When something stinks, you say phew!"

It is hard for life long conservatives to hear Trump, and trust him being really conservative. Imposters have appeared before, and Trump's enormous ego limits his effectiveness.

It wasn't that long ago that we decried the accuracy and importance of polling, or when Herman Cain and Fred Thompson flashed across our hopes, like meteors in the night sky, created some excitement, shook things up a bit and faded as reality rose again like the sun. It's a long slog yet, and we can watch Hillary implode in the meantime.

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Originally posted by jhe888:
But all Trump has done is come in and said...

OK, have fun with your contempt for Trump. You can't see the forest for the trees right now. Not my problem. Knock yourself out.

It seems almost willful to me, but it's your problem, not mine.

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Originally posted by JALLEN:
and we can watch Hillary implode in the meantime.

My new bumper sticker: "I'm ready for Hillary....to go to prison."

I certainly hope someone begins to appear to be a viable candidate with actual solutions and ideas. Maybe Walker. But someone.

Trump is just getting attention. He's good at that. But I am afraid he'll throw too many grenades in the room, and that no one will survive. Or, to use another popular phrase, that he sucks all the oxygen out of the GOP tent.

And I do think, that despite the fact that the GOP is not anti-women, a fair number of people think that. My mother - a woman, and a person with a bank account who has no business voting for Republicans - thinks that. Trump is not helping reel those voters in. He is driving them away. We cannot win without them.

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What we need, and what Trump doesn't have, is a way out.

Before anyone starts looking for a way out, they need a very clear idea of WHY they need a way out, of just what kind of a fucking mess we are in, to start out with. Jeb! and others started out down the same old bullshit road and thought they were going to roll right along, as usual. The elites in the Washington cartel thought they could pull the usual bullshit. The MSM thought this was the sideshow they know so well how to conduct. (That's why Megan's dumbass first question was, "What about you and the war on unicorns?" or some such nonsense.)

Trumps message has been: THIS AIN"T GONNA BE THE USUAL.

With any luck, and thanks to him, it won't be the usual. To me, the barometer is "how is Jeb! doing?" So far the answer is, "Pretty piss poor, muchachos. "

I would not want to spend 10 minutes with The Donald, personally. But our country owes him a deep debt of gratitude.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
You can't see the forest for the trees right now.

And I think you enjoy the ruckus he is causing so much that you don't see that ruckus is all he is. I get a kick out of the trouble he is causing too. But it isn't enough.

We'll see how it plays out.

What Trump has done that is different and unique is to say what a very large number of Americans is thinking and then not backing down when challenged. No one does that today.

When he says that Mexico is sending criminals and rapists across the border and is confronted with losing a show that has paid him a couple of hundred million over the past decade, businesses dropping him right and left and networks refusing to show his beauty pageant - he not only did not back down, he doubled down.

That is different and unique on the right. The left never cares if they offend Americans, Christians, Southerners - there are never coordinated assaults to force them to back down like there is on the right.

Time after time a conservative speaks the truth, gets lambasted and immediately apologizes and reverses course. I understand that most people cannot withstand having their livelihood taken away from them, but damn, I'm sick and tired of it. Trump has established that politically you don't have to back down, you don't have to give in when you speak the truth.

You're wrong, jhe. I am looking down the road to next year, but you have a personal dislike for this guy, and you can't see anything but that right now.

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Originally posted by jhe888:

And I do think, that despite the fact that the GOP is not anti-women, a fair number of people think that. My mother - a woman, and a person with a bank account who has no business voting for Republicans - thinks that. Trump is not helping reel those voters in. He is driving them away. We cannot win without them.

Well there are some women who are liking Trump and I think many more than anyone thinks..


92-year-old registers to vote for first time, says will vote for Trump --> +video in link.

http://www.local8now.com/home/...Trump-313102521.html

KNOX COUNTY, Tenn. (WVLT) - In the story that is Beada Corum's life, she knows most of it has already been written.

"It's a history book," says Corum. "I raised eight children: four boys and four girls."

At 92-years-old, she should be slowing down. But, don't tell her that.

"I'm busy all of the time," she says.

Corum still makes her daily checklists and crosses them off as she goes. But last week, she crossed off something decades in the making.

This 92-year-old citizen registered to vote for the very first time.

"We got a good country but it's going downhill so fast and we need somebody in there who can straighten it out," says Corum.

In the past, Corum says there hasn't been a candidate she was passionate about. That all changed when she heard one man speak. Corum says she plans to vote for Donald Trump in the 2016 Presidential Election.

"He's got a strong mind and he speaks it out just the way he thinks it ought to be," she says.

Corum is proving you're never too old to make it count.

"I pray that I'll vote for the right person. And, when you pray with all your heart, it won't go void. That's my prayer," she says.

I heard today that if elected, Trump would get Warren Buffett in his cabinet.

I admire Warren Buffett in many ways, but his politics are not among them. He is not conservative in the slightest, and he will be 85 this month. Maybe that's where Trump hopes to get the money for Cuba or something.