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Just Trump saying that we need a wall is more "details" than you will get from the majority of Republican candidates. They'll say words like "comprehensive", "path to citizenship" & "organizing". High faulting words, meaning nothing. | |||
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Spelling error? Maybe not....  highfalutin (US, informal) Self-important, pompous; arrogant or egotistical; tending to show off or hold oneself in unduly high regard. It's only a matter of time before some highfalutin developer builds a huge hotel and ruins the scenery. Etymology Alteration of high-fluting. In his book, The Adventure of English, Melvyn Bragg records that in a nascent America, when the well-to-do travelled by steamboat, said passengers were referred to as highfalutin due to the high fluted funnels on the boats. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Auto correct perhaps. The auto correct on this iPad is my worst enema. OTOH, you have to take him at his word, like Rubio, no trying to get his meaning. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Actually, they've been moving drugs by strapping them to the backs of illegals for some decades now. | |||
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"Laughed off the stage", "flip-flopping traitor" are just two. The rest of your statements are gross misinterpretations.
This is a classic misdirection. I didn't say anything about savvy on immigration. I said he was right to point out the inadequacy of a wall alone. That has nothing whatever to do with legalizing the illegals. He and some others floated a proposal to reach a compromise on some of these issues, it didn't attract support and failed.
Talking about the multitudes waiting to get here is a part of understanding the immigration problem and possible solutions. Some people fear thought or talking about some things, even if those might be relevant. The people who can't or won't think are the dangerous ones, the sound bite philosophers, witless knee-jerkers, purists. Speaking of the wall, I saw where the President of Mexico said they're not going to pay for it. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Don't you find it interesting that he felt the need to comment at all on this nonexistent wall? If not for Trump, the president of Mexico would not even be thinking of such things, much less commenting publicly. | |||
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Small potatoes and a wall will cut that part of the flow. Noone is going to spend millions digging a tunnel and then shuttle bus loads of people through it to be traced back. ______________________________ “I'd like to know why well-educated idiots keep apologizing for lazy and complaining people who think the world owes them a living.” ― John Wayne | |||
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Anyone who votes and selects a GOP ballot in the primary. | |||
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I had the feeling he was motivated by the hitherto novel and imaginative idea that Mexico would pay for it, and felt the need to kibosh it right away. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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The entire GOP field has moved to the right since Trump entered the race. The narrative went from caving in to building a wall and Bush went from "number one" to almost irrelevant in the polls. | |||
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The US and Mexico do around $500B in annual trade with about a 10% deficit on our side. Plus we give them the better part of $1B per year in direct cash aid. That is called leverage, we just don't have anyone in office with the balls to use that leverage at the moment. How many US manufacturers would move back across the border with a 10% tariff slapped on all goods imported to the US? ______________________________ “I'd like to know why well-educated idiots keep apologizing for lazy and complaining people who think the world owes them a living.” ― John Wayne | |||
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Donald Trump is a first-rate ass clown, but...
Yes. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Not to get too far off topic, but building a wall would involve lots of cement. Given that Mexico is the largest supplier to the US (via Cemex) for cement could make the whole deal interesting. Given the need for the wall is along the border with Mexico it would only make economic sense to get it from Mexico. The U.S. Government is tricky enough to funnel money to Mexico via various means such that Mexico could afford to "pay" for it and reap the benefits via Cemex. And who do you think would be working on the wall? Immigrant workers. Ironic. Anyway, there is more to the whole deal - maybe Trump has a way to make it work from a business perspective. Which is really my whole point. We need a business person thinking about this. Not a politician. (There's a reason I went into engineering and not business  ). I personally can't imagine having the U.S. Gov involved with building a wall. What a cluster f*** that would be. It sounds good but it would be a joke. So there is that whole side of the equation to think about. Back on topic, at least Trump is making it a topic as others have pointed out. A wall wouldn't be 100% effective but it would surely make a dent. | |||
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The Walmart in Calexico across the border from Mexicali probably does most of that,  one of the highest grossing stores in the Walmart organization. The Costco in Chula Vista does a land office business as well. There has long been an enormous pressure to not mess with it.Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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That's pretty much what I just said. | |||
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The Trumpinator is immune to pressure ______________________________ “I'd like to know why well-educated idiots keep apologizing for lazy and complaining people who think the world owes them a living.” ― John Wayne | |||
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Trump And Supporters Say They're Serious About Winning By EMILY CORWIN • AUG 15, 2015. "LINK TO NEW HAMPSHIRE NPR One thing is clear as throngs of people wind down Alumni Drive on the way up to Winnacunnet High School in Hampton: these folks are not coming out just for the Donald Trump spectacle. They really want him to be president. Many of the 2,000 people here say they trust Trump, a business executive and reality TV star, because he speaks his mind. And despite the candidate's disparaging remarks about Fox Anchor Megyn Kelly regarding his alleged misogyny -- both men and women here seemed unfazed. "What I’ve heard so far it’s been taken out of context," says Amy Donahue, who manages a convenience store in Hampton. "A lot of us say things we don’t mean." Nevertheless, when Trump finally took to the stage, an hour after doors closed, he did do a little damage control. "You watch," he told the crowd. "I will help women's health issues more than anybody, including on the Democratic side. You watch, you watch." Trump’s speech was the usual mix of boastful and funny. He criticized current international policies and harassed a long-winded supporter during Q and A. Briefly, Trump attacked Lindsey Graham and Rand Paul, each of whom has openly criticized him. That’s something Trump supporter and history teacher James Donahue says doesn’t faze him. "I think at the end of the day they are just looking for some publicity, attacking him," Donahue says. "And they're just so far off. I mean, the line here today? There's no way other candidates would have a line like this." Trump understands his appeal. Political correctness, he says, "takes too much time." "There's a tremendous silent majority that politicians have taken advantage of," he said. "They are largely incompetent except when it comes to getting reelected. And look - who knows it better than me? I've contributed to everybody." In the end, Trump made sure everyone knew he’s serious about being the next president. He recalled a phone call. "It's the summer of Trump - you know, they are calling it the summer of Trump," he said. "But if this all happens and I don't win, I consider it a total waste of time." Most of this crowd seemed to agree. | |||
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| Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
Uh, I think you need to get in touch with folks down on the border. Like, anywhere from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific. Sometimes it's about how much money they've got, and sometimes it's about how much money they can make off of the illegals - which is why illegals have been muling for decades. | |||
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Damn auto Correct on the iPad. Although I am frequently given to misspelling.....Just like Mark Twain said "I admire a man who can spell a word more than 1 way". Let's face it, us conservatives were just waiting around for Cruz or Paul to get fucked out of the nomination & for Jeb! to win. Another Bush vs Clinton, yay! Then Trump came along....... | |||
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