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Baroque Bloke |
I agree. It’s so bad that SCOTUS might be provoked to an extraordinary intervention. Serious about crackers | |||
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Irksome Whirling Dervish |
I'm sure the SCOTUS is following this closely, as are NY appellate judges. If he's acquitted then it's moot, of course. But a judge telling the jury that he's breaking them into three different camps and each one is to work on a different federal crime? Jurors 5-12 have no say on the charges that jurors 1-4 are deliberating? That's beyond whacked. On the other hand, if, say, jurors 1-4 and jurors 5-8 find him not guilty but jurors 9-12 do on their crime, does that mean he's guilty of that crime when 2/3 of the jurors weren't part of the deliberation? 4 out of 4 is unanimous? I truly hope there's more to this separate camp story. This is just bizarre as fuck. | |||
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Bad dog! |
Corruption so destructive as we have been watching usually works in the dark. But here everyone sees its ugly face, even those on the left. So their support of deception, lying, injustice-- their support of this travesty that undermines our nation-- is not a mistake. Instead, they are deliberately choosing what they know is wrong. And that is evil. ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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| Conservative Behind Enemy Lines  |
Merchan will go down in history. Law students will study this case and draw the inevitable conclusion that Merchan was corrupt as the day is long. His name will join the ranks of Benedict Arnold, Judas, and Pontius Pilate. I'm not comparing Trump to Jesus - I'm comparing Merchan to Pilate. Of all the enemies that the American citizen faces, the Democrat Party is the very worst. | |||
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https://twitter.com/ryantyre/s.../1795855838810177625 https://twitter.com/AGAndrewBa.../1795840914486948097 _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
President Trump Delivers Remarks as Jury Deliberates in New York City, “Weaponized Deal to Manipulate Law” President Trump delivers remarks after Judge Juan Merchan delivered some of the most ridiculous instructions in the history of jury instructions. Judge Juan Merchan told jurors they do not have to agree unanimously on each of the 3 counts charged. The jury can have 4 members agree to guilt on each of the three counts and the judge will accept that as 12 decisions for guilt overall. There’s no way these types of instructions will pass appellate court review; but that’s not the purpose of the Lawfare that Judge Merchan is participating in. WATCH: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/ "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Fool for the City |
My fear is that this judge is under orders to do whatever necessary to get Trump locked up, if even for just a few hours. DJT will then be "epsteined." _____________________________ "A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." George Washington. | |||
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I doubt the Secret Service will allow Trump to be "Epstiened." This space intentionally left blank. | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower  |
No. Uh uh. NO DO NOT post idiotic shit like this in this forum. You have been warned. I had better not have to address this again, and that goes for everyone here. Do not post this stupid shit in this forum. | |||
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Make America Great Again |
IF he's convicted, that will be all is needed to prevent him from becoming our next president! He will be a convicted felon until well after the November election, and any appeals won after that, which is very likely, will simply be too late! These assholes know exactly what they're doing! The only hope at this point is acquittal, or a mistrial... and with the mistrial it's likely a second trial will be scheduled before election day to tie him up! My hate for Dims grows stronger every single day!!! _____________________________ Bill R. North Alabama | |||
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| Fool for the City |
Mea culpa, Boss. _____________________________ "A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." George Washington. | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
You don't know what you're talking about, and I don't want to hear that fucking gloom and doom shit here. Go cry elsewhere. You do not know what is going to happen this November. End of story. I want you guys- all of you- to remain calm. When the verdict comes out, I don't want to see any loud proclamations and angry stomping around in this forum, and I damn sure don't want to read any blind predictions of "It's all over." Be Cool ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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| Make America Great Again |
Okay, I'll shut up now. Just remember I said this before it happens... _____________________________ Bill R. North Alabama | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
Moderated Status, seven days You think I'm playing with you? I told you to keep that shit out of this forum, and I meant it. | |||
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| Make America Great Again |
As expected. No worries... _____________________________ Bill R. North Alabama | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
"As expected"? Now it's 30 days You don't know a Goddamned thing about what I'm going to do. | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
Yes, this whole shitstorm is so horrible, I'm betting that some members on the jury also see the absurdity. Also I'm betting that most of the members of the jury realize the historical importance of their decision, and the notoriety of the OJ Simpson jury would pale in comparison to their situation. The day ends without a verdict, hopefully some cooler heads in that jury room are trying to convince the others to do the right thing. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
Are the jurors sequestered? If not, they surely have read and watched much of the analysis, despite the judge's instructions. And if they have seen that stuff, they have seen people like Alan Dershowitz- a Democrat who voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020- saying that this is the most egregious miscarriage of justice he has seen in his entire life. The question, then, is do they wish to be part of this historic travesty, or do they want to retain their integrity. | |||
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Is there any precedent for this? Does a judge have the authority to do whatever he wants in his/her courtroom at any given point in time? What I'm asking is, can a higher authority intervene or do a judge's orders stand until appeal? Year V | |||
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Would it be moot as far as the judge is concerned? No reprecussions for going rogue like this? Year V | |||
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