^^ $3000 in new debt per person but you get $600 cash back!

Yeah, $600 isn't much but as long as some genders get studied in Pakistan and feminist museums get built, I'll be happy. Because, that's what all of this was about right?

Amid claims of unexplained ballots, Pennsylvania officials unsure how many voted in 2020

https://justthenews.com/politi..._campaign=newsletter



The state of Pennsylvania is still uncertain just how many residents voted in the 2020 election, a state official revealed this week, amid allegations of discrepancies between ballots and voter rolls in the battleground state.

Pennsylvania was thrown back into the limelight this week when a group of Republican state representatives claimed to have found "troubling discrepancies between the numbers of total votes counted and total number of voters who voted" in the state last month.

"A comparison of official county election results to the total number of voters who voted on November 3, 2020 as recorded by the Department of State shows that 6,962,607 total ballots were reported as being cast," a press release announcing the findings said, "while DoS/SURE system records indicate that only 6,760,230 total voters actually voted."

SURE is Pennsylvania's Statewide Uniform Registry of Electors, the state's voter registration database. That databank is run by the state's Bureau of Election Security and Technology, itself administered by the Department of State.

The Pennsylvania State Department strongly disputed the representatives' allegations of mismatched vote totals, with spokeswoman Wanda Murren calling it "uninformed, lay analysis combined with a basic lack of election administration knowledge."

"This obvious misinformation put forth by [the representatives] is the hallmark of so many of the claims made about this year's presidential election," Murren continued, calling the allegations "wholly without basis."

Voter histories still incomplete for 2020

Multiple representatives who signed onto the analysis would not comment on its conclusions, pointing Just the News toward Rep. Frank Ryan, who appeared to have spearheaded the initiative. Ryan did not respond to multiple requests for comment.

But Murren in her statement and in interviews with Just the News revealed that, even as the year comes to a close nearly two months after the election itself, the state is still ultimately not in possession of the exact number of voters who cast a ballot in Pennsylvania this year.

In her statement disputing the findings of Ryan and the other representatives, Murren said: "We are unclear as to what data the legislators used for this most recent 'analysis'. But the only way to determine the number of voters who voted in November from the SURE system is through the vote histories."

"At this time," she continued, "there are still a few counties that have not completed uploading their vote histories to the SURE system. These counties, which include Philadelphia, Allegheny, Butler and Cambria, would account for a significant number of voters."

In email and phone interviews with Just the News, Murren confirmed that voting histories "are each tied to an individual voter" and that those histories are "the only way to determine exactly how many voters voted in the election."

Asked to clarify how the Department of State certified the election without apparently knowing how many voters ultimately voted in the election, Murren replied: "Each county certifies the vote totals for each individual candidate. The secretary's certification is based on the certifications from each county. In Pennsylvania, it is the counties that are authorized to administer all aspects of elections — from voter registration to canvassing the ballots."

Murren pointed to the Department of State's website, which lists just under seven million ballots cast in the election this year.

That figure is reflective of "the number of votes cast for each candidate," she said. "Those numbers come from the scanners. And those scanners are totally anonymous. It's just the votes cast for individual candidates."

"What the counties are doing now," she continued, "is strictly administrative. They are now going back and telling our database which voters voted."

"We don't know which candidates they voted for," she added of the administrative lists, as "those counts are already established" in the scanner tallies.

The number of ballots cast is not necessarily going to match up exactly with the number of all the voters who voted, Murren said. Still, the number of ballots on the state's website should be considered a rough estimate of the number of people who voted, she said.

"We have to keep in mind those people whose ballots were cast and not counted," she added. "That's going to be one of the differences. And there are people who cast a ballot and don't vote—not a lot, but it happens."

"This is not uncommon," she said of the delay, "and especially with the volume of ballots we had this year."

Pennsylvania has been at the center of much of the controversy since last month's election. The state was named, along with three others, in a major litigation effort by Texas and 18 other states earlier this month to delay the certification of the 2020 election results pending investigations into alleged voting irregularities there.

The state was also the site for what the Trump campaign legal team argued was a two-tiered voting system leading up to the election, with multiple counties adopting last-minute rule changes to ballot curing procedures and numerous other counties declining to change those rules prior to Nov. 3.

The state also weathered multiple accusations that election watchers and poll workers were stymied from properly surveying ballot-counting procedures and other election work.

Two of the localities Murren said have not yet submitted their voter histories — Philadelphia and Allegheny — are reliable Democratic strongholds. Philadelphia has reliably voted Democratic in presidential elections for decades, with the city itself voting 81% in favor of Joe Biden this year.
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Georgia Senate’s Election Law Study Subcommittee unanimously passed a motion during a Dec. 30 hearing to request an audit of absentee ballots in Fulton County.

The senators are asking the state’s largest county to make the ballots “available for inspection” through a method outlined during the hearing by digital ID systems inventor Jovan Pulitzer.

Pulitzer suggested all absentee ballots in the state of Georgia be forensically examined and fraudulent ones identified in just a matter of hours. He called on state officials to allow the examination.

Officials in the Georgia Secretary of State’s office didn’t immediately respond to requests by The Epoch Times for comment on the subcommittee motion.

“Fulton County did not participate in today’s hearing,” county spokeswoman Jessica Corbitt-Dominguez said in an email to The Epoch Times. “We will continue to collaborate with the Secretary of State and General Assembly as we execute elections in compliance with all applicable state and federal laws.”

Georgia is one of the states where election results are being contested by the campaign of President Donald Trump and others. The current count in the state shows former Vice President Joe Biden ahead by some 12,000 votes.

The state has conducted manual and machine recounts, and an absentee ballot signature match audit in one county. These uncovered some issues and irregularities, but not enough to flip the results.

The brunt of the fraud allegations has been aimed at the heavily Democratic Fulton County, which includes Atlanta.

One of the county’s polling managers previously told state lawmakers that she opened a box of mail-in ballots with a batch of 110 that were “pristine” and not folded, indicating that they were never put in secrecy envelopes, as is required.

Pulitzer said that he and his team can detect if that’s the case.

Security camera footage from election night shows that in Fulton County, what appears to be tens of thousands of ballots were counted in the absence of party or state monitors. The video seems to show that election workers scanned the same batches of ballots repeatedly. This could be a legitimate action when there’s a scanning error in the batch, such as when the ballots get jammed in the scanner.

In that scenario, the workers are supposed to discard the whole batch of scans and scan the ballots again, but the video quality makes it hard to discern if that was the case in each instance.

Pulitzer said that he and his team could detect if that was the case as well.

“We would be able to tell if they were folded, if they were counterfeit, whether they were filled out by a human hand, whether they were printed by a machine, whether they were batch-fed continually over and over, we can detect every bit of that,” he testified.

The ballot paper itself, when scanned, becomes a piece of code, he explained. Every time the paper is physically handled, such as folded or written upon, the code would change and the change can be detected.

The examination he proposed can be done expediently, he said.

“All of these problems that you’ve heard today can be corrected and detected now by the simplest of things. It takes you days or weeks to recount votes. Give me these 500,000 ballots, we’ll have them done in two hours,” he said, apparently referring to the 528,777 ballots cast in Fulton.

About 5 million ballots were cast statewide.

Pulitzer criticized state authorities for refusing to allow a full-scale forensic audit.

“This is the historical artifact of a voter. And states are telling voters, ‘You have no right to that,’” he said.

“The very voter that pays your salary, that paid for that ballot, that paid for that piece of paper, and paid for the machine that you’re running it in. And so those people that pay your salary, that you work for, and do this for, you’re telling them, ‘You can’t look at them.’

“That is both unacceptable and un-American.”

only 36% voted voted on election day

at least w the 22% voting early in-person, they had to show up and show ID

but the biggest problem is the 41% voting by absentee ballot or by mail.

A situation glaringly open to election fraud and susceptible to the standard bag of DEM dirty tricks

approx actual number of votes by type:

votes cast election day: 57 million

early in person : 35 million

by mail or absentee: 64 million

I see a lot of people on the right now treating Lin Wood and his claims the same way the left treated Avenatti when he would spew his far-fetched claims about Trump and Kavanaugh.

I have always respected Lin Wood as an attorney and wouldn't lump him in with Avenatti just yet, but every time he tosses out a "Truth will be revealed" tweet, it gets harder and harder to think he isn't losing touch with reality.

From what I know about him, he's a serious, highly skilled attorney, so I will give him the benefit of the doubt that I wouldn't give to anyone on the left, but ultimately, he has to be held to the same burden of proof that we would require of anyone else making these kinds of claims.

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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
I see a lot of people on the right now treating Lin Wood and his claims the same way the left treated Avenatti when he would spew his far-fetched claims about Trump and Kavanaugh.

I have always respected Lin Wood as an attorney and wouldn't lump him in with Avenatti just yet, but every time he tosses out a "Truth will be revealed" tweet, it gets harder and harder to think he isn't losing touch with reality.

From what I know about him, he's a serious, highly skilled attorney, so I will give him the benefit of the doubt that I wouldn't give to anyone on the left, but ultimately, he has to be held to the same burden of proof that we would require of anyone else making these kinds of claims.

I've been finding it more difficult to take Lin Wood seriously. I don't outright dismiss his claims as the times we are now living in tells us anything is possible. Mr. Woods seems to go under the assumption that he can say anything about anyone and if they do not file a defamation suit against him it must be true. Not sure this is a good strategy for a attorney of his accomplishments to take if he wants to continue to be taken seriously.

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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
From what I know about him, he's a serious, highly skilled attorney, so I will give him the benefit of the doubt that I wouldn't give to anyone on the left, but ultimately, he has to be held to the same burden of proof that we would require of anyone else making these kinds of claims.

He sure sounds *way* out there. On the other hand, he is practically begging for a defamation lawsuit and (so far) not being taken up on it.

The things that make you say Hmmmmm...

^^^ Yikes!

Damn!

If people told us a year ago that the election would be stolen in broad daylight and our country was this compromised, we'd have called them way out there too. We are living in the Twilight Zone.

Edit: OK, the Epstein is alive thing is a bit out there.

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Originally posted by Ackks:
If people told us a year ago that the election would be stolen in broad daylight and our country was this compromised, we'd have called them way out there too. We are living in the Twilight Zone.

Edit: OK, the Epstein is alive thing is a bit out there.

[humor] Well, 1,000,000 Internet memes claiming Epstein didn't kill himself can't all be wrong.[/humor]

I'm kind of getting sick of all the crazy conspiracy theories. I think we are starting to sound more crazy than the left.

Yes I think the election was stolen. I think it was stolen through multiple avenues, including the Dominion machines, mail in fraud, ballots in suitcases, etc.

But I just don't think that Jeffrey Epstein is on a new secret island, providing minor child blow jobs to Roberts so that Biden can win. I'm also sick of these Youtube grifters telling us over and over that states have flipped to Trump when it simply hasn't happened.

I hope to God that something saves us from the leftist theft of this election. But I don't think these conspiracy stories are helping us.

It's a true shit show and the country doesn't really have a President elect. . That's the danger of becoming a banana republic. It's painfully obvious that we can't share this country with leftist unless we are willing to be enslaved. Of course, the Republican party is so enamored of the table scraps that they literally allowed this election to be stolen and have every intention of playing their usual part as the noble alternative/stupid party.

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Originally posted by frayedends:
I'm kind of getting sick of all the crazy conspiracy theories. I think we are starting to sound more crazy than the left.

Yes I think the election was stolen. I think it was stolen through multiple avenues, including the Dominion machines, mail in fraud, ballots in suitcases, etc.

But I just don't think that Jeffrey Epstein is on a new secret island, providing minor child blow jobs to Roberts so that Biden can win. I'm also sick of these Youtube grifters telling us over and over that states have flipped to Trump when it simply hasn't happened.

I hope to God that something saves us from the leftist theft of this election. But I don't think these conspiracy stories are helping us.

Prove he's dead.

"... if you can keep it..."

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
I've been finding it more difficult to take Lin Wood seriously.

Lin Wood and Sidney "Kraken" Powell, both. I pay scant heed to either of them any longer.