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"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24
 
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The Triumph of Natural Immunity
By Martin Kulldorff

A new CDC study shows that around 75% of American children – and nearly 60% of adults – have already had covid. That means that they have strong natural immunity that protects them from covid infections as they get older. Despite this, the CDC, the FDA and other government agencies are pushing all of them to get vaccinated.

Why?

One important role of public health agencies during a pandemic is to conduct seroprevalence studies to determine how many people have developed antibodies to the disease from having been infected. That way we understand how the disease has spread and how it varies geographically and among different age groups. Spain did such a large, randomized survey early during the pandemic while Sweden did a series of smaller randomized surveys at regular intervals.

In the United States, this important task was left to individual scientists, but they only had resources to conduct small surveys in a limited area such as the Santa Clara County Study. The CDC has now finally got its act together with a national survey. The results are illuminating.

In April 2020, the Santa Clara study showed that 3% of its population had been infected. In February 2022, the CDC study shows that at least 58% percent of Americans have had covid, as evidenced by their anti-nucleocapsid antibodies, which are produced due to infections but not the vaccines. The numbers vary by age.

What does this mean? We know that natural immunity after covid recovery provides excellent protection against future infections, and while covid will be with us for the rest of our lives, it will be something that our immune system will cope with in the way it is handling the other four widely circulating coronaviruses.

It means that we are now transitioning from the pandemic stage to the endemic stage, and we will eventually reach herd immunity, the end point of every pandemic no matter what strategy is used.

Given these numbers, why are the CDC, the FDA and the government pushing hard for all children to get vaccinated against covid? Why are some schools and universities mandating covid vaccines for children and young adults? The majority already have superior natural immunity.

All of them are at minuscule risk from dying from covid even if they have not had it, a risk that is smaller than dying from any of a whole range of other causes such as motor vehicle accidents, drowning, homicide, suicide, drug overdoses or cancer. While anyone can get infected, there is more than a thousand-fold difference in covid mortality between older and younger people.

To sell a drug or a vaccine, we require pharmaceutical companies to conduct a randomized controlled trial (RCT) to show that it works to prevent serious health outcomes or death. Pfizer and Moderna have not done that. For adults they only showed a reduction in symptomatic disease.

To remedy this, a recent Danish study used the RCTs to evaluate all-cause mortality. For every 100 who die in the placebo group, there are 103 deaths among mRNA vaccinees, with a 95% confidence interval of 63 to 171. This contrasts with the adenovirus-vector vaccines (AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson), with 37 deaths among the vaccinees (95% CI: 19-70).

For children, we do not even have this. The randomized covid vaccine trials show that they can prevent mild disease in children without a prior covid infection, but from observational studies we know that this protection wanes rapidly. The RCTs also show that the vaccines generate antibodies in children, but 75% of American children already have superior antibodies from natural infection.

There are no RCTs that show the vaccine prevents deaths or provides any other tangible benefit to children, while there could be harms. All vaccines come with some risks of adverse reactions, and while we know that they cause an increased risk of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart) in young people, we do not yet have a complete picture of the safety profile for these vaccines.

The CDC, the FDA, schools, and universities are pushing covid vaccines without having shown any benefit to the majority of children who have already had covid. It is stunning how these institutions have abandoned 2,500 years of knowledge about natural immunity. For the minority of children without a prior covid infection, the RCTs only show a short-term reduction in mild disease.

The CDC could instead focus on catching up with regular childhood vaccines for measles, polio, and other serious childhood diseases. Those vaccinations were severely disrupted during lockdowns, and we now see an increase in measles and polio worldwide. Yet more collateral damage from two years of disastrous public health policy.

The medical establishment used to push for evidence-based medicine as a counterweight to “alternative medicine.” It is tragic how that philosophy has now been thrown out the window. If Pfizer and Moderna want these vaccines to be given to children, they should first conduct a randomized controlled trial that shows that they reduce hospitalization and all-cause mortality. They failed to do so for adults. They should not get away with that for our children.

https://brownstone.org/article...of-natural-immunity/



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we will eventually reach herd immunity, the end point of every pandemic no matter what strategy is used.


I (virtually) screamed-typed this a few times in the beginning of the hype. Yeah, called it hype then, calling it hype now.

And I really do not care if anyone has a problem because I am not fettered with alphabet soup following my name. I went to school, paid attention, spent countless hours studying and researching in libraries, because I was a "geeky nerd" and "socially awkward". And I may not be a veterinarian, but I do know what a dog is.

Yes, I realize there are quite a few folks doing real studies and real science.

However, the agendas that drive people, and the loss of integrity of the many institutions, driven by emotions have resulted in an untrustworthy and tainted "science".

The fact that "scientists, researchers, academia and physicians" have let themselves be prostituted and destroyed the good trust of the people, is abhorrent and unforgivable.




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^^^I don't even have to do that. I can read that article on two different Browsers (Firefox and Brave) by merely clicking on the link.


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So just the J&J? I don't think so.

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FDA restricts J&J’s COVID-19 vaccine due to blood clot risk

https://nypost.com/2022/05/05/...campaign=android_nyp



'In December, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommended prioritizing Moderna and Pfizer shots over J&J’s because of its safety issues. Previously, U.S. officials had treated all three vaccines similarly because they’d each been shown to offer strong protection.

But follow-up studies have consistently shown lower effectiveness for J&J’s vaccine. And while the blood clots seen with J&J’s shot are rare, officials say they’re still occurring.

Federal scientists identified 60 cases, including nine that were fatal, as of mid-March. That amounts to one blood clot case per 3.23 million J&J shots administered, the FDA said Thursday.'

Don't lump me into the pro-coerced covid vaccination flock, but one blood clot case per 3.23 million ???


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The fact that "scientists, researchers, academia and physicians" have let themselves be prostituted and destroyed the good trust of the people, is abhorrent and unforgivable.


Please allow me to add unforgettable, maybe the worst of it.




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Don't lump me into the pro-coerced covid vaccination flock, but one blood clot case per 3.23 million ???


Yeah, and if you believe that, I got a bridge to sell you.


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Don't lump me into the pro-coerced covid vaccination flock, but one blood clot case per 3.23 million ???

Are you familiar with VAERS?
The CDC has never heard of it...

At this point... anyone who believes the CDC deserves what they get.

New UK government data shows the COVID vaccines have killed more people than they saved

I've been asking everyone: Show me the all-cause mortality data proving the vaccines are safe. I finally got some data. It's from the UK government and it's devastating. REALLY devastating.

Overview

UK government data shows that the vaccine kills more people than it saves for all age groups. In other words, it shouldn’t be used by anyone. The younger you are, the less sense it makes.

Not a single public health authority in any country will have a conversation with us on the record to justify their vaccine recommendations or explain how this analysis is wrong. Not for any amount of money. I wonder why?
What the data shows

Here’s the result of the analysis.



What this means is that if you are 25 years old, the vaccine kills 15 people for every person it saves from dying from COVID. Below 80, the younger you are, the more nonsensical vaccination is. The cells with * means that the vaccine actually caused more COVID cases to happen than the unvaccinated.

Above 80, the UK data was too confounded to be useful. Until we have that data, it’s irresponsible to make a recommendation.

https://stevekirsch.substack.c...ws-nobody-should?s=r



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“Don't lump me into the pro-coerced covid vaccination flock, but one blood clot case per 3.23 million ???”.

Clearly, they are lying. They have been since the rollout of this snake oil. If it’s so “safe and effective”, why would the companies that make them enjoy across-the-board protection from liability? Why would they need it?

Simple. They are lying.




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Department of Justice Inspector General Michael Horowitz stated that there was “a conscious decision” made with the distribution of coronavirus relief funds to undertake the unacceptable model that “we’re going to get the money out, and if there’s fraud, you’ll chase it later.”

And that “basic steps” to verify the identity of those who received money were not taken and one result of this was that 57,000 loans were paid to people who were on the Treasury Department’s Do Not Pay list.

“What we found was that basic steps to determine identity weren’t undertaken. Second, the Treasury Department has a Do Not Pay system. Well, it turned out 57,000 loans were paid out in those first few weeks to individuals who are on the Do Not Pay list.

Third, check against the deceased individuals list that the Social Security Administration keeps.”
 
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Safe AND Effective...It's been 'thoroughly' tested they said. Roll Eyes

Many knew they were lying, and were shouted down, censored & cancelled. Asking questions, or god forbid, 'Sounding the Alarm' was blasphemy and NOT tolerated those that claim to represent 'science'! Mad

I will NEVER believe ANYTHING they say EVER again!



Yep. I was told on at least several occasions by different people hat it was “the most tested vaccine in history.” They all used that wording, so you know they regurgitated it from somewhere. Unreal.


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Department of Justice Inspector General Michael Horowitz stated that there was “a conscious decision” made with the distribution of coronavirus relief funds to undertake the unacceptable model that “we’re going to get the money out, and if there’s fraud, you’ll chase it later.”

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The government uses this stupid song and dance all the time. While they are distributing these funds, they are hiring additional US attorneys to prosecute. They typically charge a bunch of low level folks with felonies and let the big fish go. It is a pattern after every major disaster.
 
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How the COVID Tyrants Created a Cycle of Chronic Disease | Guest: Dr. Lynn


https://www.theblaze.com/podca...iel-horowitz-podcast



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

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If you get a booster it wanes faster than the original shot. Roll Eyes



Growing Number of COVID-19 Deaths Among Vaccinated People: Reports

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...reports_4464399.html

An increasing number of COVID-19 deaths are occurring among individuals in the United States who have been vaccinated, according to federal data.

In August of 2021, roughly 18.9 percent of COVID-19 deaths happened among individuals who were vaccinated, an ABC News analysis of the data shows. Six months later in February 2022, that figure had risen to over 40 percent as the highly-transmissible Omicron variant made its way across the globe.

Similarly, in September 2021, just 1.1 percent of COVID-19 deaths occurred among Americans who had been fully vaccinated and boosted once. Five months later in February, that percentage had jumped to about 25 percent, according to ABC News.

A separate analysis of federal data by CNN shows that in the second half of September 2021—when the Delta variant was at its peak—less than a quarter of all COVID-19 deaths were among individuals who were vaccinated with at least two doses of the Moderna or Pfizer/BioNTech mRNA vaccines or a single dose of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. However, just months later in January and February as Omicron surged, that figure had jumped to 40 percent.

Some experts believe the increase in deaths among fully vaccinated people or “breakthrough infections” in those who have received all their shots is not overly concerning, saying it is because while more and more people become fully vaccinated, new variants emerge and vaccine protection begins to wane as fewer people continue to get booster shots.

“These data should not be interpreted as vaccines not working. In fact, these real-world analyses continue to reaffirm the incredible protection these vaccines afford especially when up to date with boosters,” said John Brownstein, an epidemiologist at Boston Children’s Hospital and an ABC News contributor.

Despite an increasing number of deaths among the vaccinated, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) states that vaccines are safe and effective. Data from the government agency says that overall, the risk of death from COVID-19 is roughly five times higher in unvaccinated individuals than in those who have had at least their initial dose of a vaccine.

However, in some cases, serious adverse events such as thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (blood clots), myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle), and pericarditis (inflammation of the outer lining of the heart) have been documented.

As of May 4, around 257.9 million people in the United States, or 77.7 percent of the total population in the nation have received at least one dose of vaccine, while roughly 219.9 million people, or 66.2 percent of the total U.S. population, have been fully vaccinated.

Around 100.9 million of those who are fully vaccinated have received a booster shot, while 49.4 percent of those eligible for booster shots have not yet had one.

As the Omicron variant swept through the nation, an increasing number of vulnerable, older populations were being hospitalized, and 73 percent of deaths have been among those 65 and older, despite the fact that 90 percent of seniors have had all of their vaccine shots.

However, a large percentage—a third of them—have not yet had their booster jab.

“This trend in increased risk among the elderly further supports the need for community-wide immunization,” Brownstein said. “Older populations, especially those with underlying conditions, continue to be at great risk of severe complications, especially as immunity wanes. The best way to protect them is to make sure everyone around them is fully immunized.”

The data comes a month after pharmaceutical and biotechnology company Moderna said that preliminary results from its study on a COVID-19 vaccine intended to protect against variants showed that it outperformed the company’s currently authorized booster shot, mRNA-1273.

Moderna said on April 19 that its mRNA-1273.211 shot, its first bivalent booster vaccine candidate, showed “superiority” against the Beta, Delta, and Omicron variants of the virus one month after being administered, compared to the booster shot of its original vaccine currently in use.


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“These data should not be interpreted as vaccines not working. In fact, these real-world analyses continue to reaffirm the incredible protection these vaccines afford especially when up to date with boosters,” said John Brownstein, an epidemiologist at Boston Children’s Hospital and an ABC News contributor.“

Uh huh. Roll Eyes
 
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“How the COVID Tyrants Created a Cycle of Chronic Disease”.

If you’ve never read (or heard of) the book Oryx and Crake” by Margaret Atwood, the basic premise of the book was the world being essentially being taken over by business entities, replacing elected governments. The businesses essentially bleed everyone’s money dry until you die by making the population sick while selling treatments that don’t cure anyone, only treating symptoms and even creating illness with hidden pathogens in their “treatments”. The parallels to what is going on with the pharmaceutical industry is a bit unnerving. Especially with this bullshit “vaccine” business.




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