The county I live in has been updating a dash board every day since June 2020 that notes new cases and deaths by city. I've been tracking these stats in a spreadsheet since Oct 2020.

Last week they changed the dash board to only show % of population total per city for infections, and the rest is all about vaccination status.

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Originally posted by chellim1:
Is there any EVIDENCE that old people should get the shot?

Some people claim that if you are old with multiple comorbidities, you should get the shot. But where is the evidence? Apparently, it doesn't exist.

Steve Kirsch

Some people claim that elderly people with multiple comorbidities should take the COVID vaccines and boosters.

The all-cause mortality data required to make such claims should be readily available to the public but isn’t.

Nobody I know has seen any data that would justify these claims.

It is unethical to recommend vaccination in any age group without clear and compelling data of an all-cause risk-benefit. Where is the risk-benefit analysis?

If there was all-cause mortality data that supported the “safe and effective” narrative, it’s highly likely we’d all know about it.

This is more evidence of a very corrupt system that no one in the mainstream medical community or media finds objectionable.

https://stevekirsch.substack.c...-that-old-people?s=r

Well, this is pretty compelling:

https://www.cdc.gov/aging/covi...20fully%20vaccinated.

Getting vaccinated prevents severe illness, hospitalizations, and death. People 65 and older who received both doses of either Pfizer or Moderna vaccines showed a 94% reduced risk of COVID-19 related hospitalization.

And here's something everyone should already know but probably don't.

https://www.webmd.com/healthy-...niors-boost-immunity

How Aging Affects Your Immune System

Does it seem like you get sick more than you did when you were younger. When you are under the weather, does it take you longer to feel good again?

Immunity -- your body’s defense system -- tends to get weaker with age.

“Just as you probably can’t run as fast as you used to in your 20s, your immune system doesn’t work as well as it used to,” says Aaron E. Glatt, MD, chairman of the department of medicine at South Nassau Communities Hospitals.

But fear not -- at least not much.

“Compared to many other bodily functions, most people’s immune systems actually do really great at any age,” Glatt says. Most of our immune systems work well enough that our risk for infection and illness isn’t much higher than normal. Even better? No matter how old you are, there’s a lot you can do to stay healthy.

What’s Happening With Your Immune System?
It’s a complex network of cells, tissues, and organs. Together, they defend your body against things that can cause infection, like bacteria.

Why does it ease a bit as you get older? That’s still a bit of a mystery.


“The medical community is still trying to determine exactly how and why immunity decreases with age,” says Kira Rubtsova, PhD. Rubtsova is an immunity researcher at National Jewish Health in Denver.

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Well, this is pretty compelling:

https://www.cdc.gov/aging/covi...20fully%20vaccinated.

Getting vaccinated prevents severe illness, hospitalizations, and death. People 65 and older who received both doses of either Pfizer or Moderna vaccines showed a 94% reduced risk of COVID-19 related hospitalization.

Well, Flash-LB, I don't find the CDC website compelling at all. We will have to disagree. It seems like scare tactics and fear mongering to me.

Fist of all, they have an Update right at the top that doesn't seem very up to date. It talks about the Delta variant:

Older unvaccinated adults are more likely to be hospitalized or die from COVID-19

Update
Getting vaccinated prevents severe illness, hospitalizations, and death. People 65 and older who received both doses of either Pfizer or Moderna vaccines showed a 94% reduced risk of COVID-19 related hospitalization. Unvaccinated people should get vaccinated and continue masking until they are fully vaccinated. With the Delta variant, this is more urgent than ever. CDC has updated guidance for fully vaccinated people based on new evidence on the Delta variant.

And where's the data to back up these claims?

The all-cause mortality data required to make such claims should be readily available to the public but isn’t.

Don’t trust the CDC.

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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
Don’t trust the CDC.

I'll drink Mexican tap water before I trust the CDC.

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Originally posted by Edmond:

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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
Don’t trust the CDC.

I'll drink Mexican tap water before I trust the CDC.

Damned right. And follow it up with 6 Tijuana mystery meat street tacos.

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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
Don’t trust the CDC.

I've said it numerous times in the last six or seven years, and I'll say it again here: my trust in the government is irretrievably lost. We've been lied to so blatantly, so consistently, so often that I don't know how anyone, especially on this forum, could link to a government agency publication as some sort of evidence or proof of anything.

I will NEVER trust ANYTHING they say EVER again!

Anyone have any idea how many people died of the flu or pneumonia over the past 3 years.

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There was an article in our local newspaper a couple days ago about how the Covid positivity rate here was going up.
It stated that 70% of people hospitalized for Covid were fully vaccinated.

Yeah, that vaccine is really doing a great job.

I think it's time we officially stop calling it a vaccine. Call it a medicine, a pretreatment shot, a prophylactic (though that wouldn't even be accurate, would it), but what it decidedly is not is a vaccine.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
I think it's time we officially stop calling it a vaccine. Call it a medicine, a pretreatment shot, a prophylactic (though that wouldn't even be accurate, would it), but what it decidedly is not is a vaccine.

Heartily agree

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I think it's time we officially stop calling it a vaccine.

It's a glorified flu shot. And those don't always work either.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
I think it's time we officially stop calling it a vaccine. Call it a medicine, a pretreatment shot, a prophylactic (though that wouldn't even be accurate, would it), but what it decidedly is not is a vaccine.

I agree. It's definitely NOT a vaccine.
I think it's time we officially stop calling it safe and effective.


Rand Paul: Fauci “Is A Man That Is Against Everything That America Stands For”

“He’s against individual choice, he’s against American freedoms”

Appearing on Fox News Thursday, Senator Rand Paul again vowed to subpoena Anthony Fauci and force him to answer questions he has repeatedly dodged, urging that Fauci is “against freedoms”.

Speaking to Send Hannity, Paul declared that “Fauci’s sort of nonsense over whether the pandemics ended or not – when you see him come out and he basically has said that the court shouldn’t be involved with limiting his power. What he is saying basically is that he’s against individual choice, he’s against American freedoms to choose their own medicine, to choose their treatment.”

“So this is a man that is against everything that America stands for,” the Senator asserted.

Paul was referring to Fauci recently saying that his own opinions and those of the CDC should be above the authority of the courts when it comes to health policy.

Paul continued, “He thinks that his edict should stand. No court or Constitution should review his edicts, and no individual person should get the choice to make it.”

Paul noted however, that “if you look at the airport, I was in the airport this week, everybody is all smiles and 97% of the people at least, are not wearing a mask because they have made the judgment that they are not at risk for COVID.”

https://summit.news/2022/04/29...-america-stands-for/

The saddest part of all this is that there is a significant portion of the population in the US that would WELCOME the government making all their choices for them, including being told when and where to show up for their snake oil injections. I almost want to feel sorry for them until I remember that duped or not, they are sleeping with the enemy.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
...they are sleeping with the enemy.

And are voting and procreating.

Coffee & Covid ☙ Monday, May 2, 2022 ☙ HARMS ROUNDUP
A roundup of the latest theories on the mechanisms of jab injury.

Jeff Childers

Yesterday, on The Epoch Times I listened to a long-form interview with Dr. Richard Urso, who is becoming one of the leading voices of pandemic-response reason along with Dr. Peter McCullough. The (real) science is slowly but surely beginning to accumulate and reveal the mechanisms of injury caused by the artificial spike protein injections. I thought I’d write up a quick summary of what we know so far. With links!

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com...onday-may-2-2022?s=r

Italian Court Rules Mandatory Vaccination Unconstitutional, 'Fatal Side Effects' too Risky

Sicily’s Court of Administrative Justice has ruled that Italy’s mandatory Covid vaccination obligation is unconstitutional. The court stated that the experimental mRNA treatments intended to protect the public from Covid have been shown to cause “serious or fatal adverse effects.” The court explains that even if such fatalities are rare, a single death is enough to render the mandate unconstitutional.

The Sicilian ruling passes the decision to the Constitutional Court, which will now have to rule on the issue.

https://rairfoundation.com/ita...ects-to-risky-video/

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
I think it's time we officially stop calling it a vaccine. Call it a medicine, a pretreatment shot, a prophylactic (though that wouldn't even be accurate, would it), but what it decidedly is not is a vaccine.

agreed

its a flu shot, always has been

recall that when people were pointing out that vaccines didn't need 3 boosters in 8 months, and real vaccines protected you from getting and spreading the disease, the CDC changed the definition of vaccine

people like Fauci and his minions are far more dangerous and devastating than the covid