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Originally posted by Oz_Shadow:
I'm supposed to be on a plane right now for a family Disney vacation. It's going to be a long time before we can even schedule another. Damn virus.

I feel your pain as well. My wife, daughter and I were supposed to be taking our first airplane vacation in April. We were going to Key Largo and I was going to be doing some wreck diving. Stupid Covid. I really needed that vacation and not getting away has really messed with my head. Couple that with how busy we’ve been in the Law Enforcement world, and I’m really not very fun to be around anymore. I’m like a raw nerve all the time, these last 2 weeks in particular. I’ve only been able to use one day of leave this year and it’s wearing pretty thin.

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Originally posted by Oz_Shadow:
I'm supposed to be on a plane right now for a family Disney vacation. It's going to be a long time before we can even schedule another. Damn virus.

Many of us are going through this. I saved my vacation time for 18 months for a trip to Maui to surf that was supposed to happen in April. I was going for 11 days. Didn’t take a fucking day off for a year and a half to do it. Had to cancel. They aren’t even allowing tourists, and it’s look into like July 31st before they do. I rescheduled for October but I’m not optimistic.

Guess there’s quite a few of us in the screwed up vacation club. I don’t get much vacation time either. If I need to go to the doctor I work extra to cover the time so I can actually save the vacation day. We planned for more than a year to take our niece for her graduation present. Now it will be a year or more before we can reschedule. Very irritable as well and now my time off (outside of working hours - not vacation) is being spent doing home maintenance and improvement.

And now Beijing has new targeted lockdowns and domestic travel limitations due to an outbreak from a food market.

"On Monday, authorities announced 49 new cases, 36 of which were linked to the Xinfadi seafood supermarket in Beijing’s southern Fengtai district. The wholesale market was closed on Saturday after it was identified as being at the centre of a new cluster of cases.

As of Monday, a total of 21 residential communities, housing about 90,000 people, near Xinfadi as well as a second seafood market in Haidian district, where cases linked to Xinfadi were also confirmed, had been closed off. Residents have been ordered to quarantine at home and undergo tests for the virus.

Beijing, which had previously gone 55 days in which the only new infections were citizens returning from other countries, has reported a total of 79 cases in the past four days. The first case in the new outbreak was discovered on Thursday after a 52-year old man surnamed Tang was confirmed to have the virus. On Friday, authorities reported another six cases – all of them, including Tang, linked to the Xinfadi market.

On Sunday, Beijing ordered all companies to vet their employees and require any who visited the Xinfadi market or had contact with those at the market to quarantine at home for 14 days. Authorities said on Sunday that more than 70,000 people were tested – 59 of whom tested positive for the virus.

After traces of the virus were found on chopping boards used for imported salmon, shops across the city have pulled salmon from their shelves. Fish farmers Norway Royal Salmon and Bakkafrost told Reuters China had stopped imports of salmon.

The closure of the Xinfadi market – a sprawling complex for sales of meat and produce as well as seafood that supplies as much as 80% of the city’s produce, according to state media – has raised concerns about food shortages. On Monday, officials pledged to increase supplies to keep prices and stocks stable.

Researchers said they were still investigating the origins of the new outbreak, with some suggesting it had come from overseas. “It is found that the virus came from Europe and the preliminary assessment is that the virus came from overseas,” said Yang Peng, an epidemiologist with the Beijing city government."

https://www.theguardian.com/wo...rus-outbreak-spreads

Isn't it amazing? Yet another outbreak from an open air food market, and you know, it came from Europe.

Nothing but lies out of China.

Yeah, right - the virus came from Europe.

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Originally posted by WaterburyBob:
Nothing but lies out of China.

Yeah, right - the virus came from Europe.

ChiComs been lying from the git-go.

Democrats aided and abetted these lies, continue to do so today.

Anyone that votes democrat is a party to the lies and deceit. NEVER FORGET THAT!! A couple of months ago perhaps ignorance could have been forgiven....NO MORE.

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After traces of the virus were found on chopping boards used for imported salmon

I'm sure nothing but "imported" salmon has ever been cut up on those boards and they have been properly sanitized before and after each use....

I can't even begin to imagine how disgustingly filthy and germ-ridden those things are.

Donald Trump Jr (Junior) tweet:

Dem run NYC is instructing contact tracers to not ask people if they joined protests/riots bc they don’t want any stats/evidence proving protests led to a corona spike.

Much easier for them to blame biz owners & church goers.

Manipulative Dem hacks!

So I am starting to embrace this mask thing. Would it be horrible if I got a red one and starting yelling COOOOBBBRRRRAAAAAA!!!! Everywhere I went. I mean shit might as well make some lemonade.

And Jr isn't manipulative?
Did he post any evidence with his tweet?

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Originally posted by sdy:
Donald Trump Jr (Junior) tweet:

Dem run NYC is instructing contact tracers to not ask people if they joined protests/riots bc they don’t want any stats/evidence proving protests led to a corona spike.

Much easier for them to blame biz owners & church goers.

Manipulative Dem hacks!

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Originally posted by Surefire:
And Jr isn't manipulative?
Did he post any evidence with his tweet?

Is this good enough???? https://www.thecity.nyc/corona...id-fears-of-new-wave

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Originally posted by Surefire:
And Jr isn't manipulative?
Did he post any evidence with his tweet?

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Originally posted by sdy:
Donald Trump Jr (Junior) tweet:

Dem run NYC is instructing contact tracers to not ask people if they joined protests/riots bc they don’t want any stats/evidence proving protests led to a corona spike.

Much easier for them to blame biz owners & church goers.

Manipulative Dem hacks!

Lots of evidence, even a statement from NYC City Hall confirming this:

The hundreds of contact tracing workers hired by the city under de Blasio’s new “test and trace” campaign have been instructed not to ask anyone who’s tested positive for COVID-19 whether they recently attended a demonstration, City Hall confirmed to THE CITY. “No person will be asked proactively if they attended a protest,” Avery Cohen, a spokesperson for de Blasio, wrote in an emailed response to questions by THE CITY.

Probably because it's being well reported by various news outlets. Just a couple examples -

DuckDuckGo search:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ny+n...test&atb=v1-1&ia=web

NY Post (from above search):
https://nypost.com/2020/06/15/...s-attended-protests/

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Originally posted by az4783054:

Imagine wearing this mask all day...in the summer. Almost Hannibal Lecter(ish)...

https://www.designboom.com/des...-hearing-04-08-2020/

The only thing missing is a large hole, cut around the mouth area, so she can eat.

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Did he post any evidence with his tweet?

seriously, are you joking ?

did you do the slightest Google search ?

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Did he post any evidence with his tweet?

Can't help but notice the lack of evidence contrary to his assertion in your post.

Not much different than how the fake news works. Let me give it a go:

Surefire, without evidence, accuses Trump family members of not having evidence.

https://www.breitbart.com/fait...lasios-locked-parks/

Orthodox Jews used bolt cutters Monday to cut through gates that had been welded shut by New York City authorities earlier in the day to prevent children in Jewish neighborhoods from playing, ostensibly because of fears of coronavirus.

Mayor Bill de Blasio has continued cracking down on religious observance, and on religious Jews in particular — while supporting large, crowded Black Lives Matter and transgender demonstrations in the city over the past several weeks.

The community has been eager to use the parks again, but the city has removed children from them. As Breitbart News reported earlier Monday, the city actually welded shut the gates to prevent families from gaining access to the parks.

As @NYCMayor marches with protesters and orders Contact Tracers not to ask people if they were at protests, the City is welding shut a park that is largely used by Hasidim in Williamsburg, Brooklyn.

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Originally posted by Surefire:
And Jr isn't manipulative?
Did he post any evidence with his tweet?

"Jr"? Surefire, you mind your manners. You are talking about the son of the greatest president this nation has had in thirty years and one of the greatest ever. You don't vote in our elections and you aren't influenced by our policies nor are you subject to the mountain of bullshit Americans who love their country are putting up with right now. Don't let me see this kind of comment from you ever again. Don't you ever say the first word against our president or his family.

Do you understand me? Do you need any of this explained to you?

Donald Trump is the only person keeping this nation's head above the water right now, and when you insult him or his family in this forum, I take it personally and I know I am far from the only one, and you had better fucking remember that.

You need "evidence"? Then, use a Goddamned search engine and do it yourself. You can read.

Selective Social-Distancing Rules Are One of the Great Scams in American Life
By RICH LOWRY
June 16, 2020 6:30 AM

Massive crowds are wonderful and healthful, if they’re woke. Otherwise, they’re life-threatening.
Earlier this week, Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot had big news: The city is opening up its iconic Lakefront Trail after months of being closed off as part of a COVID-19 lockdown.

That Lightfoot kept the trail closed even after Chicago had experienced large-scale Black Lives Matter marches — thousands just last weekend during the “Drag March for Change” — is one small instance of the flagrant social-distancing hypocrisy across the country in recent weeks.

If it’s okay for throngs of people to pack the streets and shout and chant to protest the death of George Floyd, it ought to be permissible for someone to ride a bike along the lakeside while keeping to him- or herself. In fact, one involves sustained interaction with other people, and perhaps fights with the police, while the other is a solitary activity, or one undertaken with a friend or a spouse.

Yet, Mayor Lightfoot welcomed the protestors — “We want people to come and express their passion,” she said — and still kept the trail shuttered.

Many of the same officials who were most zealous in locking down their states and cities instantly made an exception for Black Lives Matter protests. Their rigidity became laxity in a blink of an eye. Their metric for reopening wasn’t the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidelines or any other public-health measure but the “wokeness” of the activity in question.

Visiting the deathbed of a loved one with COVID-19? Absolutely not. Having a proper funeral? No way. Gathering more than about ten people at a graveside? No one should be allowed to put the public at risk in such a way.

Bringing thousands of strangers to march together for hours in spontaneous, disorderly groups? Thank you for your commitment to positive change.

Attending a church service? Well, maybe in a couple of months.

Holding a struggle session with religious trappings where people confess their racism and vow to work to defund the police? Please, let’s have more.

The wholly unserious Governor Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan professed to be deeply disturbed by a protest against her arbitrary lockdown rules, even though it largely consisted of people driving around the state capitol in their cars. She spun nightmare scenarios of a spike in COVID-19. That didn’t stop her earlier in the month from joining a march against police brutality with hundreds of non–socially distanced people, explaining that it was “an important moment” to show her “support.”

Virtue-signaling is now an essential activity in Michigan.

To believe the leaders of Blue America, SARS-CoV-2 is the first virus in human history to have a social conscience — virulent enough in the ordinary course of events to justify the most restrictive social controls, but not such a big deal if it might get in the way of marches for social justice.

The likes of Mayor Bill de Blasio have justified the different standards by arguing that fighting racism is important. Well, so is mourning your dead, keeping your business from being ground to dust, and worshiping your God. It’s a sign of a ludicrously blinkered worldview to believe that a protest march deserves more consideration than these other elemental human needs.

Another argument is that the protesters are willing to put their health on the line for their cause, a sign of their deepfelt devotion to their cause. But, until recently, it was said that people going outside weren’t just endangering themselves but the most vulnerable residents in our communities. Why wouldn’t that be true of the Black Lives Matter marches, too?

Don’t expect consistency, or even a serious attempt at it. More than 1,000 public-health experts signed a letter calling the protests “vital to the national public health,” thus immolating their credibility on a pyre of motivated reasoning. It’s social distancing for people and activities they find uncongenial, and different rules for their ideological allies.

What a contemptible betrayal of the public trust.

https://www.nationalreview.com...stancing-rules-scam/

Here in MQT we have what I considered to be one of the finest small town libraries in the US:
Peter White Public Library. They locked the doors when the crud broke out.
Today I received a flyer from them. Three full pages of a "phased reopening" plan. The tedious and pointless details rocketed to full on stupidity when they described their curb side service. Which requires you to wear a mask when you are approached by the employee bringing your book to you.
When you are sitting in your car.
And.... Wait for it.... They made a plea for donations. They have been fully shut down for months but still need money!
Opportunity from chaos, indeed.