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Originally posted by parabellum:
Per Dr. John Campbell, omicron antibodies protect against omicron and delta, but delta antibodies don't protect against omicron. You get a mild case of omicron, and you're golden.

And I suspect that's where I am.

The substack link I posted about omicron genomics suggests it was bio-engineered and released after the original, perhaps intended to be just that...a more virulent but mild way to provide broad immunity.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Per Dr. John Campbell, omicron antibodies protect against omicron and delta, but delta antibodies don't protect against omicron. You get a mild case of omicron, and you're golden.

And I suspect that's where I am.

Me too, though my rapid test was negative. Never received PCR results. Not that any test is completely trustworthy. My main complaint is that I'm now at day 16 of my ill feelings. Nothing terrible, but very consistent. A couple of nights of high fever was the worst, but persistent cough and fatigue. I'm continuing to push Vit D3, C and zinc, fluids and getting more rest than I have in years. I'm ready to be well again.

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Is this the video censored as shown in your post, removed from YouTube?

Yep. YouTube took it down. Misinformation, don't you know? Dr. Malone is one of the foremost experts in his field. But if it doesn't fit the .gov/media narrative it must be censored.
Thanks for posting the Rumble link. They will never succeed in complete censorship as long as there are people willing to tell and seek the truth.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Per Dr. John Campbell, omicron antibodies protect against omicron and delta, but delta antibodies don't protect against omicron. You get a mild case of omicron, and you're golden.

And I suspect that's where I am.

That's what I was suspecting. They will be able to use this naturally occurring Omicron virus like an attenuated live vaccine, much like FluMist.

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They will be able to use this naturally occurring Omicron virus

there's little "naturally occurring" about Omicron (genomic map of it it in red).

I don't have the training or experience in the field to understand how that mutational branch tree would determine if it's naturally occurring or not. Antigenic drift and shift is normal in viruses, and it has been seen for many decades in other situations like influenza...

^^^ Can someone explain why that graph shows it isn't naturally occurring?

I'm just an engineer, but my read is that for the original strain to reach Omicron's genome, it would have had to mutate 25x, where all of the current strains are still around 5-10 mutations.

I posted the link and reading and cliff notes like four pages ago.

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Originally posted by PGT:
This is a long but good read: https://bprice.substack.com/p/lab-leak-20

cliff notes; omicron appears to be a separate branch, possible second lab leak. Or, could be an (intentional) antidote of sorts to Delta (i.e. conferring natural immunity).

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First, look at the phylogenetic tree (it’s basically a family tree for viruses). This image comes from an article in Science, which in turn got it from nextstrain.org:



The x-axis shows time, with earlier times on the left of the graph, later times on the right. The y-axis shows how mutated the viruses are, compared to the original SARS-CoV-2 and to each other. Notice how over time, with natural mutations occurring, the original SARS-CoV-2 has gradually gotten more diverse. You can see delta variants there (in green) nested in what looks like a naturally expanding variety of viruses over time. That’s the main “wedge shape” you see, and it’s what you’d expect to see.

But then look at omicron. It’s the red cluster in the upper right. It’s very, very different. It’s way off the “natural” family tree of descendants of the original SARS-CoV-2. What’s more, if you trace its “stalk” back (i.e., if you look where it branched off from the “family tree”), you see it sprang from an “ancestor” from sometime in Spring 2020.

So, how did that happen? How did it suddenly appear in November 2021, when its “forefather” was a version of the virus that was common in mid-2020?

And where is all the natural variation in between? Why is it not like the other variants, nested in that natural-looking spreading set of gradually mutating descendants?

One parsimonious hypothesis is that some engineering has been done to it, in order to make its evolution look so unnatural. I have not heard another parsimonious hypothesis.

Milestone - Page 1000...Are we there yet? I am SO ready for this to be over!

Happy Insurrection Day!

It really irritates me when I see story after story from American “media” outlets claiming we may never know the origin.

Bullshit. It is exceedingly foolish to think the entire world can change totally for the worse and people are not going to demand to know why and how exactly this happened.

Imagine that the rules of engagement in WA are much different than here, we don't have the mask interactions, and it's helped immensely as people either wear them or they don't.

It's helped reduced the Ken/Karen problem as well.

Yes I read this too somewhere. I also remember with the original covid virus that several scientists from different countries determined that there were several markers in the genome that they believed showed the virus was man made or manipulated. God Bless !!!

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Originally posted by dbgeek:
I'm just an engineer, but my read is that for the original strain to reach Omicron's genome, it would have had to mutate 25x, where all of the current strains are still around 5-10 mutations.

Thanks for the refresh, PGT.

I ordered tests for work a couple weeks ago, cheapest I could find was $18 per. 50500 tests is $909,000+ dollars. That's some serious cash.

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Originally posted by MikeinNC:

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Originally posted by PASig:

You can’t even schedule a test around here at CVS, Walgreen’s, Quest. EVERY SITE I go to says “no appointments available” for WEEKS.

Hmmmm, Mrs. Mike bought 500 tests last week, we just had to go pick them up (in town) and she just bought 50k tests yesterday for her company. They will be here next week. They are shipping them out to their food distribution centers for when the center population hits 10% or higher for C19. Then everyone will get a test and cleared to work or sent home for quarantine.

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Originally posted by nhracecraft:
Milestone - Page 1000...Are we there yet? I am SO ready for this to be over!

Happy Insurrection Day!

You got me to thinking about a connection between the two...
Why is this thread already 1000 pages long?
It's not because we are dealing with a 'novel' virus as a medical issue. It's because of the tyranny being imposed by governments around the world, but mostly by what we used to consider western civilization.

What the left is calling an 'Insurrection' was a legitimate protest over a stolen election.

The two are related. Trump's response to the virus may not have been perfect, but he wanted to make a vaccine widely available, not mandate that it be taken. (I think he's pushing it too hard in light of adverse events, but that's kind of beside the point)

The level of tyranny being imposed is unlike anything we have ever seen in the United States and it would not have been possible if the Democrats didn't get away with stealing the election.

So, Happy Insurrection Day!

I’m waiting for the weyland variant.

Related to my post above:

French President Emmanuel Macron Declares Unvaccinated as “Annoying, Non-Citizens”
January 5, 2022
Serrez plus fort, mes amis – squeeze harder. This only ends one way.

The communist leftists in France have always had a problem with their citizenry. Their biggest challenge is that France, has a strong historic sense of nationalism. The modern political left in Europe has worked earnestly to erode that cultural truth, and the leftists in the U.S. have tried to assist them throughout. This is the essential reason why the U.S. State Department deployed the “Rivkin Project.”

Like Barack Obama, Emmanuel Macron was installed by the larger assembly of Vichy Communists; and just like the previous Tea Party rose up to confront President Obama, in France the Yellow Vest movement appeared to confront President Macron. We are finally at a time where people are able to see these connective tissues, and that my friends is a very good outcome.

We the people, those who understand the deepest values of nationalism in the cultural and political battle against globalism, need these installed leaders to remain visible.

We need them to squeeze harder because every time they do, more people awaken.

French President Emmanuel Macron feels emboldened by the rise of COVID fear. Pretenses are being dropped as these words were spoken yesterday about the citizens of France:

(EuroNews) […] Macron told Le Parisien that he had decided to act against the non-vaccinated, by “limiting as much as possible their access to social life activity”. “The unvaccinated, I really want to piss them off. And so we will continue to do so, to the bitter end. That’s the strategy,” the head of state said. “When my freedom comes to threaten that of other people, I become irresponsible. An irresponsible person is no longer a citizen.”

The president’s language is being seen as an inversion of a comment by one of his predecessors Georges Pompidou, who said it was time to “stop pissing off the French people” in 1966 when he was prime minister.

“I am not going to put them in prison, I am not going to forcibly vaccinate them,” Macron went on. “Therefore you have to say to them: from January 15 you can no longer go to a restaurant, you can no longer go for a drink, you can no longer go for a coffee, you can no longer go to the theatre, you can no longer go to the cinema,” the president said. (read more)

Barack Obama was installed; the American people are starting to realize.

Justin Trudeau was installed; the Canadian people are starting to realize.

Jacinda Ardern was installed; the people of New Zealand are starting to realize.

Emmanuel Macron was installed; the French people are starting to realize.

Ursula von der Leyen was installed; the people captured by the EU are starting to realize.

And yes, when they installed Joe Biden, they went too far, and this installation process started to become transparent.

The beta testing for the globalist (World Economic Forum) controlled and installed efforts became highly visible to many close observers when Barack H. Obama traveled to Cairo, Egypt and triggered the beginning of what became known as “The Arab Spring.” There it was the visible delivery of what we knew was taking place, but for the first time it was transparent which processes they were deploying.

The Obama visit to Cairo was needed, because it was around the same time when the socialist movement in the European Union was running out of financing for their multi-cultural experiment. The state department effort was coordinated by Charles Rivkin, hence the Rivkin Project specifically targeting the peskiest country for the globalists pushing multi-culturalism in the EU, France.

Now, thanks to various governments’ weaponizing COVID as a tool for control, people around the world are starting to sense and even see that something is controlling all of this – at least something is coordinating all of this. Indeed, the political exploits of the multinational corporate elites from Davos and the World Economic Forum are starting to become much more visible.

Squeeze harder I say…. this awakening needs more urgency. The line of acceptance is different for all people. We need the forces driving that line to move rapidly in order to assemble the largest army possible. Squeeze harder.

It takes moments of great consequence to overcome generational complacency. That is the opportunity we are being given with COVID-19 and the government exploitation of it.

The hidden totalitarian nature of government and the ruling class is being revealed, this is a good development for those who were trying desperately to get people to see it before.

I am optimistic, like the moment in the battle when the disproportionate brutality becomes visible, and the tides change in favor of victim. The cheers around the colosseum do not have to start out supporting the gladiators in order for the gladiator to ultimately become victorious. Indeed, any gladiator worth his salt knows the primary goal is to change the chant and instill fear in one gilded chair.

The need for control is a reaction to fear. Extreme measures to retain control are reactions to equally extreme senses of fear.

All around the world, right now, there are mini dictators tenuously clinging to power and trying to control a much larger mob. They have multitudes of advisors helping them, they have financial resources, and they have enforcers. However, just as Gaius Julius Caesar lost control with the entire Roman army around him, so too are these dictators and totalitarians subjects to a much larger citizenry.

Squeeze harder…. please, squeeze harder.

As fast as possible, we need to get to the point where we are finally going to deal with them. Simultaneously, they are trying to avoid being dealt with. Squeeze harder, says the slave gladiator as others surface to join the fight. Squeeze harder.

This will not end well for the ruling class. So, let’s get on with it...

https://theconservativetreehou...itizens/#more-224383

White House reporter asks Psaki why Biden hasn't focused more on scolding the unvaccinated.

Link

Psaki didn't address the notion of Biden scolding Americans, instead pointing to stats showing a vast majority of American adults have gotten at least one shot of coronavirus vaccine, with 70 percent of adults considered "fully vaccinated." That definition could change as the Biden administration pushes more people to get "boosted."

"Our objective has been to continue to convey to the American people the fact that getting vaccinated will help protect them from hospitalization, from death," she said. "Obviously, the French will make their own decisions about the most effective way to communicate with their public."