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When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)

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January 05, 2022, 07:48 PM
bryan11
When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)
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Originally posted by chellim1:
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Watch and judge for yourself.




https://open.spotify.com/episo...CsueX2bZdbEzRtKOCEyT


I listened to the entire interview and found it well worth the time.
January 05, 2022, 08:19 PM
P220 Smudge
Just walked out of O'Reilly's. Wasn't in the mood for the bullshit this manager troll behind the counter gave me about not wearing a mask. She got snotty when I put the one they gave me on my head, party hat style, so I walked out and told her I'd just buy my wiper blades on Amazon. Saved a good chunk of change, too. I guess I can understand it, she was definitely in the high risk category.

Was in the post office just before that, federal property, and they didn't say anything to the customers not wearing masks. Imagine that.

People wear masks under their chin and they don't catch a sideways glimpse. Put it on top of your head, where it's no different, and people lose their minds.


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January 05, 2022, 09:13 PM
Bassamatic
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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
Just walked out of O'Reilly's. Wasn't in the mood for the bullshit this manager troll behind the counter gave me about not wearing a mask. She got snotty when I put the one they gave me on my head, party hat style, so I walked out and told her I'd just buy my wiper blades on Amazon. Saved a good chunk of change, too. I guess I can understand it, she was definitely in the high risk category.

Was in the post office just before that, federal property, and they didn't say anything to the customers not wearing masks. Imagine that.

People wear masks under their chin and they don't catch a sideways glimpse. Put it on top of your head, where it's no different, and people lose their minds.


I guess those decisions are up to the local managers. I go to O'Reillys all the time for stuff and no one, customers or employees, wears a mask. They haven't for well over a year now.



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January 05, 2022, 10:08 PM
konata88
I posed this in another thread but i dont want to pollute it anymore. So re-posing here

One one hand, it sounds like variants can be severe (delta) or mild (omicron). On the other hand, it also sounds like one can catch any variant and have either a mild or severe case.

Conceptually, i get that it depends on one’s immune system. Is that it? Or are there rough probabilities of:

1) getting delta with mild symptoms
2) getting omicron with severe symptoms
3) if one has omicron with severe symptoms, is it much worse with delta? Or could they have a mild case of delta?
4) if one has delta with mild symptoms, is it much milder with omicron? Or could this person have a severe case of omicron?




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January 05, 2022, 10:14 PM
parabellum
Per Dr. John Campbell, omicron antibodies protect against omicron and delta, but delta antibodies don't protect against omicron. You get a mild case of omicron, and you're golden.

And I suspect that's where I am.
January 05, 2022, 10:54 PM
jljones
quote:
Originally posted by Bassamatic:
quote:
Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
Just walked out of O'Reilly's. Wasn't in the mood for the bullshit this manager troll behind the counter gave me about not wearing a mask. She got snotty when I put the one they gave me on my head, party hat style, so I walked out and told her I'd just buy my wiper blades on Amazon. Saved a good chunk of change, too. I guess I can understand it, she was definitely in the high risk category.

Was in the post office just before that, federal property, and they didn't say anything to the customers not wearing masks. Imagine that.

People wear masks under their chin and they don't catch a sideways glimpse. Put it on top of your head, where it's no different, and people lose their minds.


I guess those decisions are up to the local managers. I go to O'Reillys all the time for stuff and no one, customers or employees, wears a mask. They haven't for well over a year now.


Yeah. I went to O’Reillys and bought Heet tonight. The two clerks weren’t even wearing masks.




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January 06, 2022, 03:46 AM
P220 Smudge
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Originally posted by jljones:
quote:
Originally posted by Bassamatic:
I guess those decisions are up to the local managers. I go to O'Reillys all the time for stuff and no one, customers or employees, wears a mask. They haven't for well over a year now.


Yeah. I went to O’Reillys and bought Heet tonight. The two clerks weren’t even wearing masks.


Oh, I don't doubt that most things are more reasonable where you guys live and this is purely symptomatic of the local lefty koolaid guzzling. It's not the chain, company policies do or don't get enforced by the people staffing the location. As a result, I won't be spending any further money at this particular one.

I'd rather be living where either of you guys live, count on it.


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January 06, 2022, 04:32 AM
kimber1911
chellim1 & bryan11, Is this the video censored as shown in your post, removed from YouTube?

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January 06, 2022, 07:25 AM
PGT
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Per Dr. John Campbell, omicron antibodies protect against omicron and delta, but delta antibodies don't protect against omicron. You get a mild case of omicron, and you're golden.

And I suspect that's where I am.


The substack link I posted about omicron genomics suggests it was bio-engineered and released after the original, perhaps intended to be just that...a more virulent but mild way to provide broad immunity.
January 06, 2022, 07:42 AM
6guns
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Per Dr. John Campbell, omicron antibodies protect against omicron and delta, but delta antibodies don't protect against omicron. You get a mild case of omicron, and you're golden.

And I suspect that's where I am.


Me too, though my rapid test was negative. Never received PCR results. Not that any test is completely trustworthy. My main complaint is that I'm now at day 16 of my ill feelings. Nothing terrible, but very consistent. A couple of nights of high fever was the worst, but persistent cough and fatigue. I'm continuing to push Vit D3, C and zinc, fluids and getting more rest than I have in years. I'm ready to be well again.




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January 06, 2022, 07:43 AM
chellim1
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Is this the video censored as shown in your post, removed from YouTube?

Yep. YouTube took it down. Misinformation, don't you know? Dr. Malone is one of the foremost experts in his field. But if it doesn't fit the .gov/media narrative it must be censored.
Thanks for posting the Rumble link. They will never succeed in complete censorship as long as there are people willing to tell and seek the truth.



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January 06, 2022, 08:24 AM
9mm_shooter
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Per Dr. John Campbell, omicron antibodies protect against omicron and delta, but delta antibodies don't protect against omicron. You get a mild case of omicron, and you're golden.

And I suspect that's where I am.


That's what I was suspecting. They will be able to use this naturally occurring Omicron virus like an attenuated live vaccine, much like FluMist.
January 06, 2022, 08:33 AM
PGT
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They will be able to use this naturally occurring Omicron virus

there's little "naturally occurring" about Omicron (genomic map of it it in red).


January 06, 2022, 08:42 AM
9mm_shooter
I don't have the training or experience in the field to understand how that mutational branch tree would determine if it's naturally occurring or not. Antigenic drift and shift is normal in viruses, and it has been seen for many decades in other situations like influenza...
January 06, 2022, 08:42 AM
6guns
^^^ Can someone explain why that graph shows it isn't naturally occurring?




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January 06, 2022, 08:48 AM
dbgeek
I'm just an engineer, but my read is that for the original strain to reach Omicron's genome, it would have had to mutate 25x, where all of the current strains are still around 5-10 mutations.


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January 06, 2022, 08:49 AM
PGT
I posted the link and reading and cliff notes like four pages ago.
January 06, 2022, 08:49 AM
PGT
back up
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Originally posted by PGT:
This is a long but good read: https://bprice.substack.com/p/lab-leak-20

cliff notes; omicron appears to be a separate branch, possible second lab leak. Or, could be an (intentional) antidote of sorts to Delta (i.e. conferring natural immunity).

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First, look at the phylogenetic tree (it’s basically a family tree for viruses). This image comes from an article in Science, which in turn got it from nextstrain.org:



The x-axis shows time, with earlier times on the left of the graph, later times on the right. The y-axis shows how mutated the viruses are, compared to the original SARS-CoV-2 and to each other. Notice how over time, with natural mutations occurring, the original SARS-CoV-2 has gradually gotten more diverse. You can see delta variants there (in green) nested in what looks like a naturally expanding variety of viruses over time. That’s the main “wedge shape” you see, and it’s what you’d expect to see.

But then look at omicron. It’s the red cluster in the upper right. It’s very, very different. It’s way off the “natural” family tree of descendants of the original SARS-CoV-2. What’s more, if you trace its “stalk” back (i.e., if you look where it branched off from the “family tree”), you see it sprang from an “ancestor” from sometime in Spring 2020.

So, how did that happen? How did it suddenly appear in November 2021, when its “forefather” was a version of the virus that was common in mid-2020?

And where is all the natural variation in between? Why is it not like the other variants, nested in that natural-looking spreading set of gradually mutating descendants?

One parsimonious hypothesis is that some engineering has been done to it, in order to make its evolution look so unnatural. I have not heard another parsimonious hypothesis.

January 06, 2022, 08:52 AM
nhracecraft
Milestone - Page 1000...Are we there yet? I am SO ready for this to be over!

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January 06, 2022, 08:59 AM
stickman428
It really irritates me when I see story after story from American “media” outlets claiming we may never know the origin.

Bullshit. It is exceedingly foolish to think the entire world can change totally for the worse and people are not going to demand to know why and how exactly this happened.


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