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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie
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Not sure it has to be ratified by the Senate since it is nonbinding. But you know Biden will abide by it and even double down.



And the red states can tell Biden to go screw.

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The JCOPA agreement with Iran signed by Obama did not need Senate ratification.


And then Trump tossed it in the trash as soon as he got in.


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:And the red states can tell Biden to go screw.[QUOTE]


And then it will end with lawsuits and the Judicial branch making the final rule. We all know how that ended up with forced covid vaccines. Not really forced except you could not go to work with out it.

Stay home, go bankrupt, starve and remain vaccine free. What a choice.


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It'll never be ratified by the Senate.
Maybe, but I'll bet you a bottle of bourbon that it will get 48 votes if it does make it to the senate. We always seem about a vote or two from these a-holes in Washington flushing our rights down the drain. And Biden would sign his own euthanasia order if they put it in front of him and told him to sign it.

This 'treaty' is utterly and completely insane, and tells all of us exactly what the Left wants for this country. It also affirms exactly who the people running this country answer to, and it ain't us.


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It will not need to be ratified by the Senate.


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It will not need to be ratified by the Senate.
Kinda stupid approach to governing isn't it. This 'treaty' will simply be added to the list of what the next president will void.


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It will not need to be ratified by the Senate.
Kinda stupid approach to governing isn't it. This 'treaty' will simply be added to the list of what the next president will void.


I agree but see my post above. Congress has ceded too much power to the executive branch.


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It'll never be ratified by the Senate.
Maybe, but I'll bet you a bottle of bourbon that it will get 48 votes if it does make it to the senate. We always seem about a vote or two from these a-holes in Washington flushing our rights down the drain. And Biden would sign his own euthanasia order if they put it in front of him and told him to sign it.

This 'treaty' is utterly and completely insane, and tells all of us exactly what the Left wants for this country. It also affirms exactly who the people running this country answer to, and it ain't us.


A treaty would need 67 votes. 2/3rds of the Senate. Never happen.


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Congress has ceded too much power to the executive branch.
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A treaty would need 67 votes. 2/3rds of the Senate. Never happen.
Not my point. My point was that virtually the entire Democrat majority in the Senate, short of maybe Manchin and/or Sinema, would enthusiastically vote for this. And we shouldn't be two or ten votes away from approving a treaty that wipes away American constitutional rights and US autonomy.


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It'll never be ratified by the Senate.
Maybe, but I'll bet you a bottle of bourbon that it will get 48 votes if it does make it to the senate. We always seem about a vote or two from these a-holes in Washington flushing our rights down the drain. And Biden would sign his own euthanasia order if they put it in front of him and told him to sign it.

This 'treaty' is utterly and completely insane, and tells all of us exactly what the Left wants for this country. It also affirms exactly who the people running this country answer to, and it ain't us.


A treaty would need 67 votes. 2/3rds of the Senate. Never happen.



Jut like the JCOPA (treaty/agreement) with Iran it will not need Senate ratification. Please read the above posts. NONBINDING.


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Yes, I know. Nonbinding. BFD. Then it's not a treaty.


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Non-Binding = Feel Good Globalist/Leftist Bullshit and a GIANT Waste of Time/Energy/Resources! This will be discarded post haste once POTATUS is replaced by an 'America First' President!


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Providence to Use Federal COVID Relief Funds for Reparations

The city has allocated $10 million in funding to the project

https://nationalfile.com/provi...nds-for-reparations/

Providence Mayor Jorge Elorza plans to use the city’s federal COVID-19 relief funds for racial reparations. On Friday, the mayor signed a spending plan for $124 million in American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funding that will pave the way for the city to invest tens of millions of dollars into housing and infrastructure projects. Elorza has not ruled out direct payments for eligible individuals, which would include black Americans, as well as those who can prove Native American heritage.
“As a housing crisis persists across the state, the city is allocating $30.7 million to the issue, $17 million of which will go toward developing affordable units,” reported The Providence Journal. “The remainder of the category will be spent on rapid rehousing, permanent supportive housing, emergency housing, a home repair program and other initiatives.”

During a news conference on Friday, Esparza said spending decisions were driven by public input sought by the city’s COVID-19 Recovery and Resiliency Task Force, which was commissioned in January.

Addressing housing and homelessness was identified as a top priority by Providence respondents in a survey asking how American Rescue Plan funds should be spent, according to the city government. Input from “residents who participated in community meetings” was also weighed heavily.

Esparza justifies his city’s use of American Rescue Plan funds — which were allocated to states and municipalities by the federal government in order to deal with the economic fallout of pandemic lockdowns — by claiming the money is going to communities that were “hardest hit” by the virus. The “hardest hit” communities, according to the Providence city government, are populated by African Americans.

“We made it a point to go to those hardest hit neighborhoods and hardest hit communities and get an over-representative sample from those folks as well,” the mayor said. “But it still did not change the fundamental reality that regardless of where you are throughout the city, we have the same priorities.”

$10 million of the $124 million spending package will be going towards a racial reparations program in Providence. A committee will decide how exactly the funds will be spent, but the mayor has not ruled out direct payments to eligible recipients.

A 13-member panel has been tasked with examining reparation work being done in other municipalities and creating recommendations for ways the city can distribute the funds. NAACP Providence President Jim Vincent is among those already tapped to serve on the board, Elorza said.

“While we know the city alone cannot repair the full scope of harm, today’s action brings us another step closer to addressing the disparities our African heritage and Indigenous residents continue to face,” the mayor said in a written statement.

The Providence city government commissioned the reparations committee in 2020.


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In rebuke to Pentagon, Navy board finds 3-0 for vax objector amid questions of mandate's lawfulness

In a stinging rebuke to the Pentagon, a Navy administrative separation board voted unanimously to retain an officer who refused to comply with the military's COVID-19 vaccine mandate.

Navy Lt. Billy Moseley, who has been an officer for 22 years, could have chosen to retire from the military when he was ordered to receive the COVID vaccine. He also could have submitted a Religious Accommodation Request, since he objected to the vaccine for religious reasons.

Risking his retirement, Moseley chose instead to take his case to the administrative separation board after learning "that the Navy and the other services intended to implement a blanket denial policy," according to a press release from his attorney, R. Davis Younts.

Moseley consulted with legal and medical experts and "became convinced that as an officer he had an obligation to take a stand against the unlawful order and be a voice for thousands of enlisted Sailors," the press release continued.

Younts told Just the News Moseley is one of the first Navy service members — maybe even the first officer — to go to the board over the COVID vaccine mandate.

Any service member who has been in the military for more than six years is entitled to the board for due process. In the Navy, the board's recommendation on whether to retain or separate (another term for firing) a member of the service is binding.

Younts argued at the board hearing that the mandate for the experimental COVID vaccines was not a lawful order since the military has not made fully FDA-approved versions of the vaccines available to military members.

The military defense attorney told Just the News that the attorneys for the Navy agreed with him that there are no FDA-approved vaccines available, only interchangeable vaccines. Younts added that if there are no FDA-approved vaccines available, then the president would have to authorize the experimental shots that are currently available, which hasn’t happened.

On Friday, the board voted 3-0 that Moseley's failure to follow the COVID vaccine order did not count as misconduct and that he should remain in the Navy. Younts said that the board members weren't convinced that the vaccine order was lawful.

He added that this precedent "puts the Navy in an interesting position" regarding the other service members who have also refused the COVID vaccine.

While this is "only one case of thousands and we have many more clients facing prosecution by the military, we are encouraged that the truth was revealed in this Board, and we hope this ground-breaking case sends a strong message to the Department of Defense," Younts' press release concluded.

https://justthenews.com/politi...nt-commit-misconduct



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chellim1:

Thanks for posting that very good news.


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It is good news. But as a follow up - the guy has been an officer for 22 years and he's only a lieutenant (O3)?

Well, further inquiries reveal he was prior enlisted - "LT William Moseley enlisted in the Navy in 2000, reaching the rank of Gunners Mate Chief Petty Officer before earning a commission in 2014 as a Surface Ordnance LDO/616."

Apparently, Just the News doesn't do much research for their stories.


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^^ Mustangs always make the best officers.

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CNN just ran a piece explaining that “scientists are urgently trying to solve” the question of whether the endless waves of Covid we now have “may be a result of the mRNA technology used to build some Covid-19 vaccines.”

Not making this up:

But there's another piece of the immunity puzzle that scientists are urgently trying to solve, and that is whether some of this drop off in our protection may be a result of the mRNA technology used to build some Covid-19 vaccines, such as those developed by Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech, which were the first in the world to use this platform.

SOURCE:
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/20...urability/index.html

Oh? You don’t say? Now “scientists” are “urgently trying” to figure out if the “mRNA technology” is the problem and not the solution?

Now?

NOW?

Maybe they can urgently try to build a time machine too, or an unvaccine machine.



The article also includes this gem, from Dr. Anthony Fauci:
"We got a really great platform with mRNA," Fauci said. "But let's try to be better. "

Oh, Tony! T-Dog! Allow me to translate:

I’m not saying it doesn’t work it at all, okay? Not out loud. I’d be absolutely insane to say that out loud after telling A BILLION PEOPLE TO TAKE IT. I’m just saying it could be better. And by better I mean actually work. But I didn’t say that.


And finally this:

The United States is at a point in the pandemic now where health officials are grappling with the fact that to maintain immunity against Covid-19 in the community, the nation will either need to administer booster shots on a regular -- or possibly annual -- basis, or will need to rollout an entirely new vaccine altogether.

Yes, apparently we’ll “need to administer booster shots… [or] rollout an entirely new vaccine altogether”?

What you’re seeing here is the first steps toward an official acknowledgement that the mRNA vaccines have failed and new vaccines are coming sooner or later.

Booster shots? Remember, booster shots are available everywhere now. SECOND booster shots are available everywhere. And despite endless badgering from media and public health authorities, uptake has been close to zero for months.

The side effects are at least as bad with the third and fourth doses as the original two - that is, worse than Covid for many if not most people - and everyone knows the shots will not stop anyone from getting Covid in any case.

Thus the booster campaigns will be allowed to molder, probably within months. The White House will excuse the failure of the vaccines as a failure of public opinion, claiming that “mRNA vaccine hesitancy has risen to unsustainable levels,” or some such, and that we need new vaccine technology. (By new I mean old, most likely.) They may even be cynical enough to blame those of us who were right all along for said hesitancy.

The great mRNA experiment will come to an end, not with a bang but with 200 million expired doses in freezers. The most likely but by no means certain outcome is: zero long-term benefit, zero to some long-term harm, and $100 billion-plus for Pfizer and the gang.

https://alexberenson.substack....est-man/comments?s=r



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The endless waves of new variants are caused by the vaccines which are not sterilizing and which only target the S protein. Since the virus is not killed in the bodies of vaccinated people, it is free to mutate into new variants which evade existing immunity. Futhermore, the vaccines, all of them, only teach the immune system to respond to the S protein not the entire virus. Normally, we generate response to multiple parts of a virus, but not with these particular vaccines.

Had we not mass-jabbed everybody, there would be fewer variants.

Unfortunately the jabbed are going to be subjected to infection by numerous future variants. Those with natural immunity from being infected, who never had a jab, should be, hopefully, immune to future variants.

Geert vanden Bossche predicted all of this at the end of 2020, and he has been proven correct.
 
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[Fauci] An yau'll needa booshta, an anadda booshta, an anadda booshta... [/Fauci]



 
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COVID vaccines may impair long-term immunity to the virus

Research suggests that vaccination against COVID via mRNA vaccines may reduce body's ability to produce key type of antibody.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/328102

Vaccines against the coronavirus may impair the body’s ability to produce a key type of antibody, thus potentially limiting the immune system’s defenses against mutated strains of the virus, a new study suggests.

The study draws upon data collected during Moderna’s randomized control trial for its mRNA SARS-CoV-2 vaccine, from July 2020 through March 2021.

Researchers looked at participants who tested positive for the coronavirus during the trial, comparing serum levels of specific types of antibodies, based on vaccination status, as well as viral load.

In particular, the study looks at the antibody response to the virus’ nucleocapsid protein core, using the anti-nucleocapsid antibodies levels (anti-N Abs) as a marker for comprehensive immune system response to the virus, as opposed to the narrower response to the spike protein. Variants of SARS-CoV-2 with mutated spike proteins have been a subject of concern for the reliance of vaccinated immunity on antibodies targeting the s-proteins of the original variant.

As expected, serum levels of the anti-nucleocapsid antibodies varied based on measured viral load in both the placebo and vaccine cohorts, with participants who had higher viral loads found to have higher levels of neutralizing anti-nucleocapsid antibodies.

Researchers also found a pronounced difference, however, in the levels of anti-nucleocapsid antibodies between vaccinated participants and members of the placebo cohort, even when the study controlled for viral load.

Trial participants who were given the placebo, rather than the vaccine, and became infected during the trial were found to have significantly higher levels of the neutralizing anti-nucleocapsid antibodies than vaccinated participants who had comparable viral loads.

Approximately 60% of participants from the placebo cohort who experienced very mild infection, with low viral loads, were found to have anti-nucleocapsid antibodies, compared to roughly 10% of vaccinated subjects.

Among those with higher viral loads – qualifying as mild cases, rather than very mild – 71% of the unvaccinated developed anti-nucleocapsid antibodies, compared to just 15% of those in the vaccine group.

Of all unvaccinated subjects who had been diagnosed with the virus during the trial, nearly all (93%) had measurable levels of anti-nucleocapsid antibodies, compared to less than half (40%) of those in the vaccine cohort.

“While an increase in seroreversion cannot be ruled out, given the short time frame the more likely explanation is a vaccine-induced reduction in seroconversion,” researchers wrote, suggesting that trial participants given the vaccine had reduced levels of the anti-nucleocapsid antibodies as a direct result of the vaccine’s narrow focus on the spike protein.

The researchers also hinted that the diminished anti-nucleocapsid antibody response among the vaccinated could lead to undercounting of breakthrough cases, when measured by antibody sampling.

“Even with frequent serosampling, serosurveys that rely on antibodies to the N protein may underestimate within-community transmission dynamics.”


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