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I'm totally against the vaccine mandates, but what you've just stated is nonsense. Coronaviruses (including SARS-Cov-2) are not related to influenza viruses.
Not entirely accurate. Both are respiratory viruses and very similar in their approach to attacking the body.
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If you're definition of vaccine requires lifetime sterilizing immunity from infection from a single dose, you'll have to convince the world that most of what we've called "vaccines" aren't real, either.
And that too is not wholly accurate. Vaccines up until recently have always been based in the approach of providing some measure of immunity to a particular virus. These MRNA 'vaccines' are not by their own maker's statements designed to provide immunity from Covid, but rather, act more like a therapeutic in lessening the symptoms of Covid with a focus on keeping people out of hospital beds. It was even posted on this very forum a week or two ago that the Webster's dictionary definition of the term "vaccine" has been modified twice this year, the first time in like 25 years, to try and accommodate these MRNA concoctions.


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flu

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semantics

you know what I mean

not interested in parsing 'words' at this point

as for changing the definition of 'vaccine' - merely amplifies my thoughts that is is entirely contrived and being manipulated to keep people off balance
 
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Three words that sent Dr Kerry Chant global

It was three words among thousands from the NSW chief health officer - Dr Kerry Chant - but it has led to headlines worldwide and sent conspiracy theorists into a spin.

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That will see pubs and retailers, among others, reopen the Monday after 70 per cent of the NSW population are double vaccinated. The milestone is expected to occur sometime in October.

A full 51 minutes into the exhaustive press conference, Dr Chant was asked if NSW will start listing casual contact locations again once the reopening occurs.

“We will be looking at what contact tracing looks like in the new world order,” she said.

And that was it. The uttering of the phrase “new world order” was confirmation from some that Covid-19 is all a very complex plot involving millions of people, including public servants, all dedicated to installing a nefarious totalitarian government.

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I'm providing the news article, not the (exasperation of) a conspiracy theory.

Waiting for Ann Bressington (South Australia Legislative Council), who loves conspiracy theories and denialist movements, to chip in with some unbelievable commentary.

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It was three words among thousands from the NSW chief health officer - Dr Kerry Chant - but it has led to headlines worldwide and sent conspiracy theorists into a spin.

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“We will be looking at what contact tracing looks like in the new world order,” she said.





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Three words that sent Dr Kerry Chant global

It was three words among thousands from the NSW chief health officer - Dr Kerry Chant - but it has led to headlines worldwide and sent conspiracy theorists into a spin.

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Dr Kerry Chant may have just picked up the 3 words from these folks.

"We must work together to build a new world order. This is how we can do it"

https://www.weforum.org/agenda...der-china-russia-us/

You know...the same folks, who in Oct. 2019 had the dress rehearsal for the current plandemic.
The World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.


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Seems like the unemployment rolls are about to increase dramatically. Am I wrong?
 
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We have to build a parallel society based on freedom.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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Reports of Injuries, Deaths After COVID Vaccines Hit New Highs Just as Biden-Harris Regime Announce Medical Dictatorship

VAERS data released Friday by the CDC showed a total of 675,593 reports of adverse events from all age groups following COVID vaccines, including 14,506 deaths and 88,171 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and Sept. 3, 2021.

https://noqreport.com/2021/09/...edical-dictatorship/



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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Guess who does NOT have to follow the mandate for federal workers?

There’s Someone EXEMPT From Biden’s Wicked Vaccine Mandate!



Ummm, does anybody else have a question about this particular move?

You know, the same people that handle your mail every day, and come to your front door, dropping off stuff every day, at basically every business and house in the entire nation, all of them are somehow exempt?

Oh, and the mandate doesn’t apply to the massive flood of illegal immigrants either, remember?

You can’t mandate on one class of people and not mandate universally. It just doesn’t work that way and we need to fight back and resist all of this. Do not comply until it works its way thru the Courts.

Here is more from the New York Post:

President Biden on Thursday mandated COVID-19 vaccines for almost all federal workers, but the more than 600,000 letter carriers and administrative staff of the US Postal Service won’t have to get a shot.

The exemption was first reported by Washington Post postal reporter Jacob Bogage, who reported that a White House official told him that “we strongly encourage them to comply with these standards” anyhow.

Biden on Thursday also announced a new Labor Department policy requiring workers at private companies with 100 or more employees to get vaccinated or submit to weekly testing. The USPS exemption was initially believed to allow postal workers to duck the private-sector mandate, too.

“USPS is not included in the executive order requiring vaccination of Federal employees. USPS has a separate statutory scheme and is traditionally independent of federal personnel actions like this,” a Biden administration official said.

He added: “That said, USPS is strongly encouraged to comply. Also, [the Labor Department’s Occupational Safety and Health Administration] will cover USPS through the [emergency temporary standards], meaning that postal workers will be subject to the vaccination or testing policy announced today.”

Postal workers serve every community in the United States, often with daily door-to-door deliveries and contact with millions of Americans.

Biden described in stark terms his justification for a package of vaccine mandates.

“We’ve been patient, but our patience is wearing thin, and your refusal has cost all of us,” Biden said in a speech. “This is not about freedom, or personal choice. It’s about protecting yourself and those around you.”

This unconstitutional move has A LOT of legal headwinds and little chance of succeeding, but there is one thing that I can tell.

This move by Biden and his cronies has all the makings of a distraction to me.

We need to keep our eyes on the forensic audits, the California recall election, illegal immigration, Afghanistan, and the upcoming 20th anniversary of 9/11.

https://dailyheadlines.net/the...n=DH.net%209-10%206p


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Just when you thought the Aussies couldn’t get more stupid with their useless, draconian and never-ending Covid lockdowns.

The government in NSW is literally rationing beer now, limiting people to one 6 pack per day:

Residents in apartment blocks locked-down by NSW Health are having their alcohol deliveries policed as part of a policy to limit the number of drinks being consumed each day.

It’s almost like they’re running an experiment to see where people’s breaking point is.


 
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Guess who else is exempt from the mandatory poison jab? Congress as well as their staffers. Yes, they are not part of the executive branch as included in the unconstitutional decree, but shouldn't they step up and volunteer if it's so important, effective, and safe? Hypocrites and tyrants.

https://www.newsweek.com/membe...cine-mandate-1627859

President Joe Biden's new vaccine mandates for federal employees don't apply to members of Congress or those who work for Congress or the federal court system.

Biden issued two executive orders on Thursday requiring vaccination against COVID for federal workers and contractors who work for the federal government. He also asked the Department of Labor to issue an emergency order requiring businesses with more than 100 employees to ensure their workers are vaccinated or tested on a weekly basis.

However, Biden's order on federal workers applies to employees of the executive branch. The House of Representatives and the Senate belong to the separate legislative branch, and the courts to the judicial branch of the federal government.

Biden's COVID action plan - "Path Out of the Pandemic" - published on the White House website makes the effect of the vaccine mandate clear.

The plan says: "Building on the President's announcement in July to strengthen safety requirements for unvaccinated federal workers, the President has signed an Executive Order to take those actions a step further and require all federal executive branch workers to be vaccinated."

"The President also signed an Executive Order directing that this standard be extended to employees of contractors that do business with the federal government," the plan goes on.

"As part of this effort, the Department of Defense, the Department of Veterans Affairs, the Indian Health Service, and the National Institute of Health will complete implementation of their previously announced vaccination requirements that cover 2.5 million people."




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Study Finds Teenage Boys Six Times More Likely To Suffer Heart Problems From Vaccine Than Be Hospitalized by COVID

https://www.zerohedge.com/covi...-problems-vaccine-be

Research conducted by the University of California has found that teenage boys are six times more likely to suffer from heart problems caused by the COVID-19 vaccine than to be hospitalized as a result of COVID-19 itself.

“A team led by Dr Tracy Hoeg at the University of California investigated the rate of cardiac myocarditis – heart inflammation – and chest pain in children aged 12-17 following their second dose of the vaccine,” reports the Telegraph.

“They then compared this with the likelihood of children needing hospital treatment owing to Covid-19, at times of low, moderate and high rates of hospitalisation.”

Researchers found that the risk of heart complications for boys aged 12-15 following the vaccine was 162.2 per million, which was the highest out of all the groups they looked at.





Even during high risk rates of COVID, such as in January this year, the threat posed by the vaccine is 4.3 times higher, while during low risk rates, the risk of teenage boys suffering a “cardiac adverse event” from the vaccine is a whopping 22.8 times higher.

The research data was based on a study of adverse reactions suffered by teens between January and June this year.

In a sane world, such data should represent the nail in the coffin for the argument that teenagers and children should be mandated to take the coronavirus vaccine, but it obviously won’t.

In the UK, the government is pushing to vaccinate 12-15-year-olds, even without parental consent, despite the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) advising against it.

Meanwhile, in America, Los Angeles County school officials voted unanimously to mandate COVID shots for all children over 12 despite angry objections from parents.


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In a sane world, such data should represent the nail in the coffin for the argument that teenagers and children should be mandated to take the coronavirus vaccine, but it obviously won’t.

In the UK, the government is pushing to vaccinate 12-15-year-olds, even without parental consent, despite the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) advising against it.

Meanwhile, in America, Los Angeles County school officials voted unanimously to mandate COVID shots for all children over 12 despite angry objections from parents.

Have we lost our flippin minds?
Well, not all of us. At least there is some push back, but our government, and all "western democracies" are responding as the CCP did in Wuhan.

"Lockdowns,” the mass quarantine of both sick and healthy people, have never before been used for disease mitigation in the modern Western world. Previously, the strategy had been systematically ruled out by the pandemic plans of the World Health Organization (WHO) and by health experts of every developed nation. So how did we get here?

Mass lockdowns of entire countries as a technique for fighting disease sprung into the world’s consciousness on the order of Xi Jinping, general secretary of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), who fomented a global propaganda offensive targeting Western governments and media. Within weeks, the WHO, an organization that once devoted itself to fighting disease and which has sadly become a tool of Chinese foreign policy, promulgated lockdowns into global policy through a series of press conferences that showed a complete absence of analysis or logic.

The world has been fighting a virus from China with a public health policy from China that transforms the world into China. But if the national security community has noticed this bizarre development, they haven’t said so. Instead, their preoccupation has remained largely unchanged since February 2020. Insiders have confirmed that by spring 2020 the national security community was convinced that SARS-CoV-2 was a supervirus leaked from the Wuhan lab, explaining why many supported lockdowns.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sect...asked-ball-cowardice



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The government in NSW is literally rationing beer now, limiting people to one 6 pack per day:

It’s almost like they’re running an experiment to see where people’s breaking point is.
I can see a new reality show coming out of this.

Death Zone: Australia

If the ratings are good (what else can they do but sit and watch TV?) the series can be expanded.

Death Zone: New York

Death Zone: L.A.

We can have a Death Zone: CDC Christmas special.
 
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I questioned on day one why our public health response was the same as a communist shithole. We literally couldn't come up with anything better than the Chinese game plan. Our politicians and public health 'experts' should be ashamed and apologetic...instead we have the Big Guy telling us he's plain run out of patience.
 
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Maybe the only way this ends is when enough people break and begin to adopt a “fuck it, I’d rather die than live like this any longer” mentality and then begin to totally disregarded all government mandates, all fear propaganda broadcasts and just begin to live their lives again.

That’s the only way I see this ending any time soon.

Putting any faith in our government to fix this, handle this or even be honest with us is a lost cause. They don’t care about anything but power, control and money. Just look how our benevolent leaders exempted themselves from the vax mandate.


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I don't think people will accept this vaccine mandate...I think it was a critical political mistake created by desperation and sinking polling. If it stands, the country is fundamentally altered and any pretensions about 'freedom' are just silly propaganda. You can basically be forced to do whatever a majority decides you must do...they just have to pretend it's for the 'public health'. The gun confiscations will be for 'public health' reasons as well.
 
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They demand a 100% vaccination rate. That's never going to happen, so they've already failed.

When they try to force the holdouts, they're in for a big surprise.
 
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