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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
has anyone done a matrix of the known side effects of the three flu shots

I've been trying to get current information on J&J and most search engines seem to be squelching out and current info after late June

I don't have what you are looking for but can provide first hand anecdotal information on the J&J shot. I had zero side effects (got the shot in April) - a slight soreness at the injection site like someone had punched my arm for 2 or 3 days and that was it.

Wife got the J&J on Wed morning (2 days ago). Nothing that day or night, headache and tiredness yesterday into the evening, and back to feeling pretty normal today.

She read up a lot on the studies and they seemed to indicate the the J&J was better against the Delta variant.

Thanks Bama - I am being forced into taking the shot - and I'm not happy about it - will probably delay until early November but thats good information

getting harder and harder to make any type of informed decision

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:

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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
has anyone done a matrix of the known side effects of the three flu shots

I've been trying to get current information on J&J and most search engines seem to be squelching out and current info after late June

I don't have what you are looking for but can provide first hand anecdotal information on the J&J shot. I had zero side effects (got the shot in April) - a slight soreness at the injection site like someone had punched my arm for 2 or 3 days and that was it.

Wife got the J&J on Wed morning (2 days ago). Nothing that day or night, headache and tiredness yesterday into the evening, and back to feeling pretty normal today.

She read up a lot on the studies and they seemed to indicate the the J&J was better against the Delta variant.

Thanks Bama - I am being forced into taking the shot - and I'm not happy about it - will probably delay until early November but thats good information

getting harder and harder to make any type of informed decision

You need to go a bit further with this. The symptoms you might see shortly after getting the poke is only one aspect. Don't forget, the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are gene therapy which is very different than traditional vaccines. Could these drugs potentially screw with your immune system long term? I think its possible, but there's no data to prove this going either direction. No one practicing honesty can say these vaccines are safe, because no one knows at this point.

^^^^^^^^

And don’t you worry about the FACT that (from Treehouse) -

Moderna and Pfizer Intentionally Lost The Clinical Trial Control Group Testing Vaccine Efficacy and Safety

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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
has anyone done a matrix of the known side effects of the three flu shots

I've been trying to get current information on J&J and most search engines seem to be squelching out and current info after late June

I don't have what you are looking for but can provide first hand anecdotal information on the J&J shot. I had zero side effects (got the shot in April) - a slight soreness at the injection site like someone had punched my arm for 2 or 3 days and that was it.

Wife got the J&J on Wed morning (2 days ago). Nothing that day or night, headache and tiredness yesterday into the evening, and back to feeling pretty normal today.

She read up a lot on the studies and they seemed to indicate the the J&J was better against the Delta variant.

I can’t give you any official stats, but I’ll give you personal history. Wife and I both got the J&J shot on July 24. Neither of us have experienced any side effects, to include a sore arm. Neither of us wanted to go through a second round of shots after 3 or 4 weeks with the other 2 versions.

We waited to see how things were going with others instead of being in the initial “lab rat” study. We are both retired, so that decision pressure was not a factor. As to any booster shot requirement, from what I’ve read it supposed to be administered about 6 to 8 months after initial shot, so that would mean February to March of next year; we’ll see about what’s happening by then.

I don't consider any of these abominations to be vaccines

they're not

they're flu shots

COVID is a flu bug, and last I checked there is no vaccine for a flu

so I'm looking for the least harmful flu shot (which I've never gotten despite the pressure every year to get one)

Canada has made it a requirement that to enter the country you must show a 'vaccine passport'

so unless I get the jab, essentially I can never visit my family again

I'd like someone in power to ask Biden, Fauci, whoever, live on TV....why is there no Covid in Africa?

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
I don't consider any of these abominations to be vaccines

they're not

they're flu shots

COVID is a flu bug, and last I checked there is no vaccine for a flu

I'm totally against the vaccine mandates, but what you've just stated is nonsense. Coronaviruses (including SARS-Cov-2) are not related to influenza viruses. If you're definition of vaccine requires lifetime sterilizing immunity from infection from a single dose, you'll have to convince the world that most of what we've called "vaccines" aren't real, either.

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Originally posted by SIG228:
I'd like someone in power to ask Biden, Fauci, whoever, live on TV....why is there no Covid in Africa?

https://www.lewrockwell.com/20...-covid-mrna-vaccine/

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Originally posted by SIG228:
I'd like someone in power to ask Biden, Fauci, whoever, live on TV....why is there no Covid in Africa?

It was stolen off the ship at port of entry.

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Originally posted by MNSIG:

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
I don't consider any of these abominations to be vaccines

they're not

they're flu shots

COVID is a flu bug, and last I checked there is no vaccine for a flu

I'm totally against the vaccine mandates, but what you've just stated is nonsense. Coronaviruses (including SARS-Cov-2) are not related to influenza viruses. If you're definition of vaccine requires lifetime sterilizing immunity from infection from a single dose, you'll have to convince the world that most of what we've called "vaccines" aren't real, either.

Good point - Corona is more closely related to the common cold than the Flu, which we know we cannot vaccinate against.

Kamala Harris, that horrible, intolerable succubus, said this on the same day--just hours before in fact--that Ex-vice president Biden announced his decree that 100 million Americans inject an arguably questionable drug into their bodies. These shameless imps will look you straight in the eye, piss on your leg, and tell you it's raining.

"The right of women to make decisions about their own bodies is non-negotiable."

These shitheads are incoherent.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Kamala Harris, that horrible, intolerable succubus, said this on the same day--just hours before in fact--that Ex-vice president Biden announced his decree that 100 million Americans inject an arguably questionable drug into their bodies. These shameless imps will look you straight in the eye, piss on your leg, and tell you it's raining.

"The right of women to make decisions about their own bodies is non-negotiable."

These shitheads are incoherent.

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I guess we all need to start identifying as women.

^^^ now that's funny.

Evil, hyper-politicized so-called “Center”

Center for Minitruth is more like it

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Originally posted by MNSIG:
I'm totally against the vaccine mandates, but what you've just stated is nonsense. Coronaviruses (including SARS-Cov-2) are not related to influenza viruses.

Not entirely accurate. Both are respiratory viruses and very similar in their approach to attacking the body.

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If you're definition of vaccine requires lifetime sterilizing immunity from infection from a single dose, you'll have to convince the world that most of what we've called "vaccines" aren't real, either.

And that too is not wholly accurate. Vaccines up until recently have always been based in the approach of providing some measure of immunity to a particular virus. These MRNA 'vaccines' are not by their own maker's statements designed to provide immunity from Covid, but rather, act more like a therapeutic in lessening the symptoms of Covid with a focus on keeping people out of hospital beds. It was even posted on this very forum a week or two ago that the Webster's dictionary definition of the term "vaccine" has been modified twice this year, the first time in like 25 years, to try and accommodate these MRNA concoctions.

flu

cold

semantics

you know what I mean

not interested in parsing 'words' at this point

as for changing the definition of 'vaccine' - merely amplifies my thoughts that is is entirely contrived and being manipulated to keep people off balance

Three words that sent Dr Kerry Chant global

It was three words among thousands from the NSW chief health officer - Dr Kerry Chant - but it has led to headlines worldwide and sent conspiracy theorists into a spin.

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That will see pubs and retailers, among others, reopen the Monday after 70 per cent of the NSW population are double vaccinated. The milestone is expected to occur sometime in October.

A full 51 minutes into the exhaustive press conference, Dr Chant was asked if NSW will start listing casual contact locations again once the reopening occurs.

“We will be looking at what contact tracing looks like in the new world order,” she said.

And that was it. The uttering of the phrase “new world order” was confirmation from some that Covid-19 is all a very complex plot involving millions of people, including public servants, all dedicated to installing a nefarious totalitarian government.

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I'm providing the news article, not the (exasperation of) a conspiracy theory.

Waiting for Ann Bressington (South Australia Legislative Council), who loves conspiracy theories and denialist movements, to chip in with some unbelievable commentary.

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Cherry Kunt who now?

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Originally posted by cjevans:

It was three words among thousands from the NSW chief health officer - Dr Kerry Chant - but it has led to headlines worldwide and sent conspiracy theorists into a spin.

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“We will be looking at what contact tracing looks like in the new world order,” she said.