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Eric Clapton on the "vaccine"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVbt8wIKMEY





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Posts: 39230 | Location: SC Lowcountry/Cape Cod | Registered: November 22, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by SIG228:
Worth a listen and a strong message:

https://youtu.be/5AY4q1Wzj5M


Thanks for posting this.


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Originally posted by konata88:
What's really scary is not that it's happening, it's that the citizens accept (and encourage?) it.

It's part and parcel of the advancement of the Sheeple State. There's all kinds of things people seem willing to accept to allegedly obtain a bit more safety and security. Social media censorship (and it is censorship regardless of the fact it's not the government doing it), spyware on their phones "for the children," people with "unpopular" views being deplatformed, massive voting irregularities (also ostensibly because of the Wu Flu), and never mind gun control. The list goes on.

The statists are getting away with it due to an ignorant and apathetic public. The public is, in turn, ignorant and apathetic in large part because it's poorly-educated (or not educated at all) and even more-poorly informed.

Our representative republic only works if the electorate is largely educated and informed. That increasingly no longer obtains.



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The statists are getting away with it due to an ignorant and apathetic public. The public is, in turn, ignorant and apathetic in large part because it's poorly-educated (or not educated at all) and even more-poorly informed.

Our representative republic only works if the electorate is largely educated and informed. That increasingly no longer obtains.

Yes... Frown
Public education has 'dumbed down' our people. Now, the marxist NEA is making it much worse with CRT.
If you can, get your kids out of the socialist/marxist schools and pay close attention to the curriculum, even in private schools.

This is a problem many years in the making, and won't be solved without a collapse of the system, IMO. But you only have your own kids to educate and to worry about. You can't fix 'the system'.



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So did President Numbnuts just admit to us all the vaccines don’t really work? Roll Eyes


We're going to protect vaccinated workers from unvaccinated co-workers"

WTF?


 
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So did President Numbnuts just admit to us all the vaccines don’t really work? Roll Eyes
"We're going to protect vaccinated workers from unvaccinated co-workers"

Biden 'Let The Truth Out' - A Quick Thought Experiment

Excerpted from Market-Ticker.org,

But then during his presser he let the truth out:

"We're going to protect vaccinated workers against unvaccinated workers."

What?

If the vaccines are in fact vaccines and work then... what protection do those who choose to get them need?

None!

But if they don't work - if you get vaccinated and are still at risk - then why would someone take one?

It's stupid to take a jab that doesn't actually protect you.

More to the point why would those who haven't been vaccinated not tell you to go straight to Hell, and why would any court uphold this sort of order when you admit that a person who accepts the vaccine is not protected - that is, it does not actually provide protection against disease?

Food for thought...

https://www.zerohedge.com/covi...k-thought-experiment



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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Originally posted by PASig:
So did President Numbnuts just admit to us all the vaccines don’t really work? Roll Eyes


We're going to protect vaccinated workers from unvaccinated co-workers"

WTF?


Should be the other way around- protect the unvaccinated from the people carrying and spreading it...




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has anyone done a matrix of the known side effects of the three flu shots

I've been trying to get current information on J&J and most search engines seem to be squelching out and current info after late June
 
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From the Daily Wire -

Governors Immediately Push Back On ‘Unconstitutional’ Biden Plan: ‘Will Fight Them To The Gates Of Hell’

Numerous governors have issued statements following Democrat President Joe Biden’s speech on Thursday signaling that they will strongly oppose his attempts to mandate vaccines.

Tate Reeves, Mississippi
Brian Kemp, Georgia
Kristi Noem, South Dakota
Henry McMaster, South Carolina
Doug Ducey, Arizona
Asa Hutchinson, Arkansas
Kim Reynolds, Iowa
Greg Gianforte, Montana
Kevin Stitt, Oklahoma
Kay Ivey, Alabama
Greg Abbott, Texas
Mike Parsons, Missouri
Looks to me like a GOOD list of individuals that need to band together and start discussing a TEXIT!



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Add, the Good Governor, of the fine state of Florida.




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Governor Cox's Statement was predictably weak and squishy like.

Utah Gov. Cox issued the following statement in response to President Joe Biden’s vaccine mandate:

“Getting vaccinated is the single most important thing people can do right now to protect ourselves and our community and reduce the spread of the Delta variant. While we support efforts that encourage vaccinations, we have serious concerns about the legality of the order.”


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6guns, thank you for linking up that video.

It is truly shocking and heart breaking to hear someone like Eric Clapton talk about how isolated and alone he felt at times through this madness. He really just put it all out there on the table. My respect for that man has grown more than I thought was possible. Why? Because he genuinely seems to pose some interesting observations. When he talked about his biggest fear and his kids...wow. The videos is shocking and caught me completely off guard. His honesty, openness and tolerance is something I just don’t see from the other side of the argument at all. That’s a big problem. There are a lot of people who feel exactly like Eric and have the exact same concerns.

My only hope is that some good and some serious changes come from all this suffering and all the people whose lives have been ruined by this shit.

I think Eric is right. If there is any unity to be found music will help. I cannot begin to tell this forum how good it felt to attend a concert again and just let loose with zero regard for masks and covid 19 not entering my mind for hours. For a brief time it felt like the world was normal again.


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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
Add, the Good Governor, of the fine state of Florida.


 
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his moronic mandate is illegal on so many grounds it would be difficult to cover them all in one post.


Joes helpers have worked this pretty well, found a path through OSHA they think will stand the test of the courts. Like Obamacare this is their direction, lucky enough it's no longer Roberts Rule in SCOTUS.

How long will it take to get a stay against his order, and, will companies that want people vaccinated push harder for it in the first 60 days, threatening jobs/insurance coverage loss.


I really don't think they care about the legal challenges.

This was designed to give cover to the businesses who have wanted to implement a mandate but didn't want the blowback on them. They can now quickly implement this and it doesn't matter what happens in the courts down the road. You can't really un-do a vaccine once given.

In board rooms across the country the risk management people are telling CEO's to implement mandates ASAP to avoid potential issues with OSHA. Any blowback can now be directed to the federal government, so they are free to act.

Sure, there may be a tiny percentage that fight this, but the vast majority will implement as soon as they practically can - which was the regime's goal all along.
I only hope people understand just how much power they wield right now. With companies and the economy hurting mightily due to the pandemic, shutdowns, and the continual series of stupid government regulations and mandates, employees could bring all of this to a screeching halt by sticking together and striking. Given the huge shortages of available labor, businesses would have few available options. That would however require a measure of courage and cooperation which likely isn't there in this society, so tyranny rules the future.


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NC Gov. Stupor was spewing typical leftist filth about how magically wonderful the vaccine is...

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Governor Cox's Statement was predictably weak and squishy like.

Utah Gov. Cox issued the following statement in response to President Joe Biden’s vaccine mandate:

“Getting vaccinated is the single most important thing people can do right now to protect ourselves and our community and reduce the spread of the Delta variant. While we support efforts that encourage vaccinations, we have serious concerns about the legality of the order.”


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has anyone done a matrix of the known side effects of the three flu shots

I've been trying to get current information on J&J and most search engines seem to be squelching out and current info after late June


When you find any info please post it. There was a small mention in a report from Israel but I went back to find it to share with your last request for info and I couldn't find it. If I remember correctly it was about the drop in efficiency and J&J doesn't drop like the others.



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Damn shame those doctors and the other 'experts' aren't making much of an effort to guide those who are infected toward the benefits of monoclonal antibodies. Taken soon after infection, that treatment has demonstrated very good results at mitigating symptoms and helping people fully recover while keeping them out of hospitals. And best of all, they don't subject the patient to partially tested vaccines that there is no long term data on. Florida has setup 12 locations around the state where people who've been infected can get this treatment, yet the biggest issue to date has been the media's unwillingness to get this information out to the public and the medical community's unwillingness to deviate from the approved "vaccines as the only solution" narrative.[/QUOTE]
Yes I agree monoclonal antibody treatments seem to be very effective at keeping people out of the hospital when done early on. I know of three people here in the Panhandle who received the monoclonal antibodies within the past two weeks and have said the symptoms of COVID 19 were relieved overnight. I think the key with the monoclonal antibodies is to get the treatment early on-two weeks into onset not so much. I also understand that IV application is more fast acting than the four shots application. If you get the bug, get tested and get treated early.


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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
has anyone done a matrix of the known side effects of the three flu shots

I've been trying to get current information on J&J and most search engines seem to be squelching out and current info after late June


I don't have what you are looking for but can provide first hand anecdotal information on the J&J shot. I had zero side effects (got the shot in April) - a slight soreness at the injection site like someone had punched my arm for 2 or 3 days and that was it.

Wife got the J&J on Wed morning (2 days ago). Nothing that day or night, headache and tiredness yesterday into the evening, and back to feeling pretty normal today.

She read up a lot on the studies and they seemed to indicate the the J&J was better against the Delta variant.



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Originally posted by konata88:
What's really scary is not that it's happening, it's that the citizens accept (and encourage?) it.

It's part and parcel of the advancement of the Sheeple State. There's all kinds of things people seem willing to accept to allegedly obtain a bit more safety and security. Social media censorship (and it is censorship regardless of the fact it's not the government doing it), spyware on their phones "for the children," people with "unpopular" views being deplatformed, massive voting irregularities (also ostensibly because of the Wu Flu), and never mind gun control. The list goes on.

The statists are getting away with it due to an ignorant and apathetic public. The public is, in turn, ignorant and apathetic in large part because it's poorly-educated (or not educated at all) and even more-poorly informed.

Our representative republic only works if the electorate is largely educated and informed. That increasingly no longer obtains.
You forgot one very important aspect. The illiterate and uninformed population you mention is also virtually owned by the federal government through handouts and subsidies. The people aren't very bright and the federal government has extreme amounts of leverage over them, so its not hard to understand why people have become the compliant sheep we're seeing.


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Our representative republic only works if the electorate is largely educated and informed. That increasingly no longer obtains.

Another important aspect is the controlled narrative/information. The airwaves are flooded with advertisements, paid for with tax dollars, telling us to take the shot which is "safe and effective". Anything that doesn't fit the narrative is hard to come by, it takes a lot of work to find, and it is labeled as "misinformation". So most people just believe what they hear on the radio or TV.
OK, it must be "safe and effective". Roll Eyes

Some people know they are being lied to, or at least not told the full truth, but don't have the time/wherewithal to search out alternative sources.



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-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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