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Yeah, right: Parents in China are going to stop sending their children to the countries that can provide them the best education because of a snit over which ones are asking for why they mishandled the pandemic. Roll Eyes

For real. They live in a country where you can’t speak out against the regime and you can’t practice the religion of your choice for fear of being disappeared yet they’re going to be afraid to go to Australia to study? Yeah, ok.

Most of this bullshit is China’s fault. The rest is the fault of the panicky cattle here.


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Monday, and another grim milestone of yet another day of America held hostage. Once again, the more real data that comes in to show that the total lockdown was not necessary, the more the Democrat-Media Complex digs in its heels to keep the shackles on. On the plus side, the more this continues the more people everywhere are seeing this as the most egregious act of political opportunism in American history. The citizenry in Wisconsin have had it up to here with the Tony Evers junta:

Wisconsin stay-at-home orders were supposed to expire Friday. Instead, thousands of disgruntled Wisconsinites descended upon the capitol in protest after the Evers administration extended the Dairy State's so-called Safer at Home order another month...

April 16, on joint letterhead with Democrat[ic] Gov. Tony Evers, Department of Health Services acting Secretary Andrea Palm unilaterally decided the stay-at-home order would continue through May 26, ensuring schools, many houses of worship, and "nonessential" businesses will remained shuttered for more than another month at least. Republican state lawmakers on Tuesday filed a lawsuit to block the latest order, asking the state Supreme Court to take the case directly, which would bypass lower courts to get a faster ruling.

As of April 20, a total of 5,350 people in Wisconsin have tested positive for the Wuhan coronavirus, with 262 fatalities. Wisconsin has 5.8 million residents, meaning positive cases are 0.09 percent of the state population...

Meanwhile, the Imelda Marcos of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer is visibly drunk on power:

After the announcement from Governor Whitmer that she is going to extend the stay at home order in Michigan until May 15th, lawmakers in the state have had enough.

A group of Michigan lawmakers from both chambers are fed up and they are stepping in to curb the totalitarian governor. When Whitmer found out and was asked about lawmakers' plans she sounded like Joseph Stalin.

There are two ways Republicans are attacking Whitmer, first, they are going to pass bills that limit her authority, which would require her signature.

"I'm not going to sign any bill that takes authority away from me," she gasps.

"Of course, I will veto bills that they send over to limit the executive power. I've been very clear about that from day one," she said Thursday. "Those blatant power grabs are bad in good times and dangerous in times of crisis..."

You said it, tootsie. And then of course there's the People's Republic of California, and its President for Life Gavin Newsom:

...Since March 4, Katy Grimes reports, Newsom has signed - count 'em - 29 executive orders, including one to make local elections vote-by-mail only. Newsom has shut down businesses he deems "nonessential," and suspended court proceedings. The California economy is in freefall but Newsom wants $75 million in taxpayer funds for foreign nationals living in the state illegally.

The millions of illegals in California, automatically registered to vote when they get a driver's license (even though that "isn't supposed to happen"), now serve as the Democrats' imported Electoral College. Democrats give illegals protection through sanctuary laws and in return the illegals vote for Democrats. Newsom may be thinking that voting by illegals, voting by mail, and ballot harvesting will enhance his chances for a run at the presidency in 2024.

Meanwhile, the San Francisco Democrat already thinks he runs a country. If embattled Californians thought Gavin Newsom was acting like a dictator it would be hard to blame them.

If only California was an independent nation state, as Newsom pompously declared it a few weeks ago. It isn't, yet culturally and politically, it is a major source of the cancer that is rotting America from within. And with 55 guaranteed electoral votes, Newsom's fever dreams of nation statehood, aided and abetted by his Godfather aunt Malig-Nancy Pelosi, might engulf America itself.

This is why I stand solidly with Georgia Governor Brian Kemp, and why the President's rebuking of his decision to open his state - following the guidelines of Trump who deferred to the governors to make that decision - was just flat out wrong. In any case, with the pressure mounting to lift the lockdowns, other Republican governors will no doubt get behind Kemp and follow suit in short order. And if the dead-ender Democrat dictators continue to imprison their citizenry, it may very well backfire against them, and spectacularly.

... In their determined oppression of their own citizens under the claim of saving them from body bags, the Democrat officials are giving their subjects a dramatic demo of who they really are. Like the aliens in the Men in Black films, they have shed their normal-looking human skin to reveal the fanged, scary authoritarian within...

Americans will not tolerate their lives frozen by government when the disease statistics don't justify the severity of the shutdown. We chafe against edicts that we can see are irrational, unreasonable, and often simply preposterous, just as the colonists chafed against the laws of George III. These rallies across the country give voice to the American spirit - energetic, industrious, hopeful, and freedom-loving - reawakening from its coma.

We are not stupid, and we are not reckless. We see that in California, a state of 40 million people there are only 1,072 deaths and about 29,000 reported cases. Yet California has probably been dealing with the virus, unseen and unknown, since November, with thousands of likely infected Chinese flying into LAX during those months. But what Gavin Newsom calls "home isolation" has been in effect only since March 20. At that time, the Democrat governor predicted from "models" that over half the state's population - about 25.5 million - would be infected in the next eight weeks. He was spectacularly wrong...

Bingo. And you can extrapolate those figures to the rest of the country and this whole thing just adds up to a colossal fraud as cover for the greatest smash-and-grab robbery in history: steal the election and the future of the nation in the bargain. I can't for the life of me think Trump does not see this. He sure isn't acting that way.

Lift the lockdowns. Liberate America.

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-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

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Mayor suspends open carry in Jackson

https://youtu.be/awAGP72dmos


Yeah, this was in response to a few shootings over the week/weekend. I'm going to venture a guess none of those wizards were open carrying.

Dumbest move ever which makes it right up this dude's alley. He's getting some scrutiny locally and in state.



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What in the fuck is wrong with that MS Mayor?

That guy needs to have his ass beat on live TV for being so stupid.
 
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"Mayor Lumumba"? What foreign country is he in?
 
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"Mayor Lumumba"? What foreign country is he in?


Belgian Congo name IIRC...


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Chumbawumba, right, they had that one song.
 
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I'm actually sorry I googled this. I have family in Madison, MS (suburb of Jackson), so I was intrigued.

The guy's father (who is deceased and a former Jackson mayor as well), was born Edwin Finley Taliaferro. He changed his name to Chokwe in 1969 (after the Chokwe people, an ethnic group in Central Africa that resisted slavery) Lumumba (after Patrice Lumumba, assassinated leader of the Congo). He was elected in 1971 to the cabinet of the Republic of New Afrika as the second vice president.

The Republik of New Afrika is as radical as the name implies. How in the actual fuck do people like this get elected?


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Lessons Unlearned That Have Come Back to Haunt Us

A pandemic reveals the collectivist enemy.

As I write this, there are over a quarter of a million recorded deaths from the corona virus and many many more to come. We know now that the virus originated in Wuhan China, probably in its virology lab, and that the Chinese concealed the fact that it was contagious between humans and deadly for weeks. They allowed a Lunar New Year celebration in Wuhan that involved tens of thousands of people, and also permitted 5 million inhabitants of Wuhan to leave the city and spread the virus. Moreover, they permitted hundreds of thousands of Chinese to travel abroad to celebrate the Lunar New Year and infect people in more than 200 countries across the globe.

Whatever one may say about the origin of the virus – it could have been the result of an accident – what cannot be denied is that the cover-up by the Chinese Communist dictatorship was deliberate and calculated, as most likely was its failure to close its borders until the virus was contained. In other words, this was a hostile attack on an innocent world, justified most probably as an effort to protect the Chinese Communist regime. So ferocious is this self-preservation imperative that the regime has launched a global campaign accusing the United States military of creating the virus, a lie so monstrous it is reminiscent of the lies promulgated by the totalitarian regimes of Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia.

For almost twenty years since China was admitted to the World Trade Organization in 2001, the Chinese regime has been mistakenly regarded by western leaders as a worthy member of the international community of nations. American leaders have regarded it as worthy of being entrusted with the supply lines of medicines and other health supports vital for survival during a pandemic like this one. Prior to 2001, China was treated as a pariah state, a policy that took root when the Communist Party seized power in Beijing in 1949, and proceeded to murder more than 100 million Chinese in the process of transforming China into a socialist state. China’s 1950 decision to go to war with the United States and prop up another totalitarian regime in North Korea was also a warning to the West to treat China as the hostile power it most self-evidently still is.

Over the next fifty years, however, despite the monstrous casualties of China’s socialist transformation, attitudes in the West began to change. This was encouraged by the passing of the dictator MaoZedong and his successor’s introduction of market features into the Chinese economy. Responding to these developments, Western leaders adopted a kind of inverted Marxist view of the power of economics to shape society. Eventually, they came to believe that if the Chinese Communists adopted the economic reforms the World Trade Organization demanded as the price of admission, economic forces would transform the Communist system and make China a worthy partner in the community of nations. A quarter of a million unnecessary deaths and counting should be sufficient to put that illusion to rest.

China is still a Communist society and that means it is governed by a collectivist ideology in which individuals – like the Wuhan doctors who tried to warn the world of the danger and were “disappeared” for their efforts – count for nothing. Collectivist societies like Nazi Germany, Communist Russia, China, North Korea, and the late Islamic State embody social attitudes that share common features with sociopathic personalities, beginning with the absence of a conscience when it comes to eliminating individuals for the sake of the collective. This lack of conscience is manifest in the failure to share information that could save millions of lives because it might embarrass or threaten the collective. Pathological lying and a “grandiose sense of self” that justifies their lies is also a characteristic of sociopathic behavior. It is second nature to self-righteous ideologues who think they are saving the world. The lack of remorse stems (to quote a technical text) from “a deep seated rage … at their core.” They “[do] not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way."

A limited but ominous instance of this pathology in which an ally winds up as a victim is the censure of Karen Whitsett, an African American Democrat legislator in Michigan. Whitsett is a former Covid19 sufferer who felt her life was saved when she learned from a presidential press conference of the possible beneficial effects of a hydrochloroquine-zythromax cocktail, and took the remedy and was cured. For the sin of saying this publicly and expressing gratitude to the president she was unanimously censured by her Democrat colleagues. She said, “I did not know that saying thank you had a political line…I thought just saying thank you meant ‘thank you.’”

When the collective feels threatened, the individual means nothing. And of course behind this sense of threat felt by the Michigan Democrats is their deranged rage against President Trump, a hatred that began with the 2016 election, and has exploded during the coronavirus crisis.

Collectivism – under the banner of Identity Politics - is now the dominant ideology of the Democrat Party. That’s why we are told in advance that if a white male is the presidential candidate of the Party, the Vice President must be a woman “of color” – regardless of merit. The collectivity is what counts, not the individual.

This is the antithesis of the individualism that is at the core of the constitutional framework America’s founders created. This is the death of Martin Luther King’s American vision that individuals should be judged on their character and not their membership in a collectivity based on race, class or gender. This is why the Left instinctively identifies and sympathizes with America’s collectivist enemies whether they are Iranian mullahs, Cuban Communists, or Palestinian terrorists.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/f...us-david-horowitz-0/



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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Ms. Corley has an clarifying and amusing summary of all the guidance we've been in receipt of.

Facebook - sorry.

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This may be an issue. At the beginning of this my dedicated freezer broke and I had to throw food in it away....a buddy of mine actually got a new one and let me have his old one last week. Because of our money issues I haven’t restocked it. I’m wondering now, though, if maybe dipping further into the emergency funds may be appropriate

Food supply chain is breaking, Tyson foods chair says as processing plants continue to close


https://www.foxnews.com/food-d...coronavirus-closures


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For what it’s worth, here’s my take.

From pretty much the beginning of health statistics the two leading killers in the United States are heart disease and Cancer.

Heart disease kills between 13,000-16,000 a week

Cancer kills between 11000-14000 a week

Two weeks ago Covid 19 killed basically 15,000 people. It may have been the leading killer in the United States that week



The problem is those Wuhan virus "confirmed death" numbers are false and greatly inflated.


Either way we can’t shut down the economy as you know. People die from complications from Wu Flu and that sucks, but we can’t kill everyone’s future over the 0.00-whatever% death rate.
If you are at risk you stay home. Time for everyone else to get back to work.

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WX DAVE beat me to it. That Lumumba moron isn't any more African than I am and neither was his shitbird dad. He also promised to make Jackson the most radical city on the planet.
 
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Tyson and others are getting all sorts of press. This may make the toilet paper hoarding look pedestrian.

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“As pork, beef and chicken plants are being forced to close, even for short periods of time, millions of pounds of meat will disappear from the supply chain,” John Tyson, Chairman of the Board of Tyson Foods, wrote in a letter published as an advertisement. “As a result, there will be limited supply of our products available in grocery stores until we are able to reopen our facilities that are currently closed.”


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Just another scare tactic.

There's a thing called cold storage. A two week kill shutdown is a small bump in the road.
There's not a meat shortage.




 
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Just another scare tactic.

There's a thing called cold storage. A two week kill shutdown is a small bump in the road.
There's not a meat shortage.


That was my take. And we're talking processed meat, right?

I'm assuming my local butcher and grocery store meat counter will still have plenty of beef, no?

And on a completely unrelated note to that, I have an appointment with the Periodontist tomorrow. I'm still out of town but assumed that they would be canceling appointments. Before I could call today, they called me to confirm the appointment. That was a pleasant surprise that they're still doing office visits. Anyway, I rebooked for next week.


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That was my take. And we're talking processed meat, right?

I'm assuming my local butcher and grocery store meat counter will still have plenty of beef, no?


Yes, processed meat.

The problem coming with all the hype over a shortage is, people are going to start hoarding meat, which will make a shortage look real.




 
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I'm sick and tired of these scare tactics. These things especially frighten elderly Americans and some other dip shits who will use this as an excuse to hoard. Any closure should be short term in order to sanitize the plants and only be a minor interruption, but you can be damn sure they will use this to raise prices.
 
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“The parents of the students would also think whether this place which they found is not so friendly, even hostile, whether this is the best place to send our kids.”


Yeah, right: Parents in China are going to stop sending their children to the countries that can provide them the best education because of a snit over which ones are asking for why they mishandled the pandemic. Roll Eyes

*If* it happens, I suspect it will be because of CCP pressure/restrictions, either overt or more subtle. Something alongs the lines of, “Sending one’s children to be educated in a country critical of state may negatively affect one’s social credit.”
 
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These things especially frighten elderly


Yep

I've talked to several older people who are completely buying into the panic.
They sit and watch tv to so they know what's going on... only to make things worse.

This shit needs to stop!




 
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*If* it happens ....


You’re right, of course, but I was commenting about the ambassador’s statement, not about reality. I never post, “He was just turning his life around,” or similar comments when some alpha hotel gets wasted in a botched robbery attempt, so I have to get my stunningly obvious observations in where I can. Wink




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