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Horowitz: CDC endorsed use of ivermectin … for Afghan refugees!

https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed...ggle-gdpr%20%20Reply

"I have long been convinced that Nature has all the solutions we need to solve our past ... that will be the primary source of the treasures and solutions that we seek." ~Professor Satashi Omura, Nobel co-laureate for the discovery of ivermectin

Looking at 2019 CDC guidance, one has to wonder if one of the reasons why there is such a run on ivermectin is because our own government is using it. And no, not for horses, but for refugees. Yet these same government agencies are running a blood libel-style smear campaign against the drug and its users by misleading people into conflating it with a veterinarian version of the drug, leading many people to think it's some sort of poison for humans. In the process, they are leaving thousands of COVID patients without any other options for treatment.

It's not clear whether the hundreds of thousands of Afghan refugees will be forced to get vaccinated like American international travelers, but one thing is clear: They will likely get the ivermectin that most Americans can no longer access. It turns out that in 2019, the CDC issued guidance for refugees from Africa, Latin America, and the Middle East to be given ivermectin pre-emptively for potential infections.



The CDC advises the International Organization for Migration (IOM) physicians who screen the refugees for departure, and U.S. doctors who treat them upon arrival, to prescribe "all Middle Eastern, Asian, North African, Latin American, and Caribbean refugees" with ivermectin and albendazole.

"But that is for parasitic infection, not viral infection!" shouts the chorus of ignorant fools who have ignored the past 18 months of ivermectin saving countless lives. Putting this point aside for a moment, that is only a question about efficacy, not safety. Government agencies are slandering ivermectin as if it's not a safe drug and even convincing people that it's for animals. Do they consider refugees animals? The point is: People who are now getting COVID – both vaccinated and unvaccinated – are left without any options for outpatient treatment. Why would the government stand in the way of ivermectin treatment that it mass-distributes to refugees, even if the establishment bureaucrats personally believe it won't help for COVID?

To the extent the government even screens refugees for COVID, will officials suspend ivermectin treatment for a refugee who has COVID alongside a parasitic infection? After all, we are told that somehow one of the safest drugs in the history of humanity suddenly turns unsafe if you want to use it for another ailment. Or perhaps Americans can self-identify as refugees and then obtain prescriptions for this lifesaving drug. The question now is whether the rest of the media that ignored ivermectin's success for 17 months will continue to call the drug a "horse dewormer" even as it's administered to Afghan refugees.

The revelation of this CDC guidance demonstrates that ivermectin is not some obscure drug, much less an animal drug that was used one time for humans in Africa many years ago. The agency feels it is needed today in most parts of the world. To suggest that it is not safe is a scandalous lie. Perhaps doctors will have to start punching in the prescription code for abortion or suggest it's for an Afghan refugee in order to get the prescription filled:

In reality, anyone who thinks that somehow one of the safest and most successful drugs of all time cannot work for other ailments is woefully uninformed. I trust Professor Omura, the man who won the Nobel Prize for developing ivermectin for Merck, over the company itself, which now stands to benefit from an expensive drug it is developing, with which the cheap ivermectin, which is off patent, would interfere.

In March, Omura wrote in the Japanese Journal of Antibiotics that he hopes "ivermectin will be utilized as a countermeasure for COVID-19 as soon as possible." Ten years ago, Omura observed: "Ivermectin has continually proved to be astonishingly safe for human use. Indeed, it is such a safe drug, with minimal side effects, that it can be administered by non-medical staff and even illiterate individuals in remote rural communities, provided that they have had some very basic, appropriate training."

Any sampling of the internet will reveal a unique degree of reverence for this drug among all of the (pre-political) literature on ivermectin. For example, in 2017, Nature's Journal of Antibiotics observed the following about the fact that ivermectin held promise outside use just as an-antiparasitic agent:

Today, ivermectin is continuing to surprise and excite scientists, offering more and more promise to help improve global public health by treating a diverse range of diseases, with its unexpected potential as an antibacterial, antiviral and anti-cancer agent being particularly extraordinary. …

Moreover, whereas ivermectin-resistant parasites swiftly appeared in treated animals, as well as in ectoparasites, such as copepods parasitizing salmon in fish farms, somewhat bizarrely and almost uniquely, no confirmed drug resistance appears to have arisen in parasites in human populations, even in those that have been taking ivermectin as a monotherapy for over 30 years.
As for the drug's exact mechanism of action against COVID, Dr. Ryan Cole, a brilliant Mayo Clinic-trained pathologist, listed eight different mechanisms in an exclusive interview with TheBlaze:

1. Inhibits binding at ACE2 and TMPRSS2, keeping the virus from entering our cells.

2. Blocks alpha/beta importin (the virus cell taxi), keeping it from getting to the nucleus.

3. Blocks the viral replicase zipper (RdRp).

4. 3-Chimotrypsin protease inhibition (keeps the virus from assembling).

5. Ivermectin strengthens our natural antiviral cell activity by increasing our natural interferon production (this counters SARSCOV2 activity, which inhibits cellular interferon).

6. Decreases IL-6 and other inflammatory cytokines through NF Kappa Beta downregulation, taking the patient from a cytokine storm to calm.

7. Binds NSP14, necessary for viral replication, and blocks it (equals less virus).

8. Most important mechanism is inhibiting binding to CD147 receptor on red cells, platelets, lung, and blood cell lining. Ivermectin keeps the virus from binding here and decreases deadly clotting.

https://twitter.com/RMConserva...-for-afghan-refugees

So, the next time you hear any media figures refer to ivermectin as an animal medicine, just remember that they are regarding people from three continents as something less than human. And now, they are treating every American – increasingly those who are also vaccinated – as subhuman beings who don't deserve any treatment until it is too late


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I hope other Governors will start to follow Gov. DeSantis’s lead.
This waiting until it is too late to get treatment has been killing people.

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Many of us has known this for a long time, yet the government and media seem dead set on killing as many as possible.






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Old “60 Minutes” report on swine flu adverse reactions after the government’s insistence that everyone get a swine flu vax. Rolled out and advertised by the CDC.

https://www.barnhardt.biz/2021...n-for-over-40-years/






 
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The fully packed college football stadiums these past few days attest to the fact that the vax vs. un-vaxxed war is total bullshot! Tens of thousands of people enjoying the games, eating, drinking, cheering and nary a mask in sight!, well maybe two or three. I don’t care what precautions the schools are taking to insure safety, there is no way in hell there aren’t COVID carrying individuals throughout those crowds, and good! They’ll receive natural, strong immunity should they come down with this crap. And yet there is still the war going on about masks in K thru 12??

I had full blown COVID in April, rough few days then let nature take it’s course. Wife and I now have natural, long lasting immunity thanks to the ingenious design of our bodies by, well, you know Who..

Why aren’t more people pissed off at China?






 
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Old “60 Minutes” report on swine flu adverse reactions after the government’s insistence that everyone get a swine flu vax. Rolled out and advertised by the CDC.





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Another blow to creepy Joe Biden’s vax mandate- be tried to further coerce federal workers and contractors that declined the jab with the threat of weekly testing, travel restrictions, etc. Turns out that Federal Occupation Health was never consulted or given any direction, planning, funding or even a vague idea of how to implement such a vast expensive program. Suck it, leftists! Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

https://www.govexec.com/manage...-new-mandate/185123/




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Apparently being non vaccinated will keep you off jury duty.



https://www.yahoo.com/news/jud...olmes-112400273.html



US District Judge Edward Davila is presiding over the trial of Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes.

Earlier this week he dismissed nine people as jurors because there weren't vaccinated.

He cited concerns about the health of jurors and their families as the reason for his decision.

The judge presiding over the Theranos trial has dismissed nine people from the jury pool because they were not vaccinated, Reuters reported Tuesday.

US District Judge Edward Davila took the action on Tuesday, saying his decision was motivated by concern for jurors' health and those of their families, Reuters reported.

Both the defense and the prosecution supported the decision, the agency reported.

Dismissing jurors on the basis of their not being vaccinated is within the court's power, and could arise more frequently as courts resume in-person trials, Reuters noted.

But Hadar Aviram, a professor at the University of California Hastings College of the Law, told Reuters that excluding unvaccinated people could lead to a jury that is not representative of the general population.

For example, a July poll from Axios and Ipsos showed that white conservatives are more likely to be resistant to being vaccinated in the US.

Information about the dismissed jurors' genders, ages, and ethnicities were not made publicly available....


 
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Apparently being non vaccinated will keep you off jury duty.


 
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It seems that we need to be more strict with a definition of 'jury of peers' as I don't consider democrats peers and unbiased for any case in which I would be judged.

If I were to be judged, at the very least, I would want all jurors to be solid conservatives (not RINOs or democrats).




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But Hadar Aviram, a professor at the University of California Hastings College of the Law, told Reuters that excluding unvaccinated people could lead to a jury that is not representative of the general population.


Wow, surprising comment coming out of Berzerkly.




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I've always considered the test to be a jury of peers and not a jury of the general population

I guess the definition of peers isn't what I thought it was
 
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I did a two week attempted murder trial a few weeks ago, and being vaccinated or not wasn't even a question. I haven't heard it come up from colleagues either.


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Rolling Stone 'Horse Dewormer' Hit-Piece Debunked After Hospital Says No Ivermectin Overdoses

https://www.zerohedge.com/covi...l-says-no-ivermectin

After Joe Rogan announced that he'd kicked Covid in just a few days using a cocktail of drugs, including Ivermectin - an anti-parasitic prescribed for humans for over 35 years, with over 4 billion doses administered (and most recently as a Covid-19 treatment), the left quickly started mocking Rogan for having taken a 'horse dewormer' due to its dual use in livestock.

Rolling Stone's Jon Blistein led the charge:



On Friday, Rolling Stone's Peter Wade took another stab - publishing a hit piece claiming that Oklahoma ERs were overflowing with people 'overdosing on horse dewormer.'

It was suspect from the beginning.

The report, sourced to local Oaklahoma outlet KFOR's Katelyn Ogle, cites Oklahoma ER doctor Dr. Jason McElyea - claimed that people overdosing on ivermectin horse dewormer are causing emergency rooms to be "so backed up that gunshot victims were having hard times getting" access to health facilities.

As people take the drug, McElyea said patients have arrived at hospitals with negative reactions like nausea, vomiting, muscle aches, and cramping — or even loss of sight.
“The scariest one that I’ve heard of and seen is people coming in with vision loss,” the doctor said. -Rolling Stone
Except, the article provided zero evidence for McElyea's claims, causing people to start asking questions.

And while neither KFOR or Rolling Stone mention the hospital McElyea worked for, NHS Sequoyah, located in Sallisaw, Oklahoma - just issued a statement disavowing McElyea's claims, which pops up when you visit their website.

It reads:

Although Dr. Jason McElyea is not an employee of NHS Sequoyah, he is affiliated with a medical staffing group that provides coverage for our emergency room.

With that said, Dr. McElyea has not worked at our Sallisaw location in over 2 months.

NHS Sequoyah has not treated any patients due to complications related to taking ivermectin. This includes not treating any patients for ivermectin overdose.

All patients who have visited our emergency room have received medical attention as appropriate. Our hospital has not had to turn away any patients seeking emergency care.

We want to reassure our community that our staff is working hard to provide quality healthcare to all patients. We appreciate the opportunity to clarify this issue and as always, we value our community’s support.

What about the rest of the state?

According to Scott Schaeffer, managing director of the Oklahoma Center for Poison and Drug Information, "Since the beginning of May, we’ve received reports of 11 people being exposed to ivermectin," he told the NY Daily News (which still pushed the 'ivermectin overdoses' story despite this fact).

Meanwhile, this horseshit story has also been picked up by the far-left Business Insider and The Independent, as well as The Guardian, among other notable outlets.



McElyea is also listed as working at Integris Grove Hospital in Grove, OK as a general family practitioner - not in the ER. A phone call to them provided no insight as to any ivermectin overdoses, however the gentleman who answered the phone sounded quite amused. What's more, Grove, OK - with a population of 7,129, had just 14 aggravated assaults in all of 2019 according to the FBI's latest data. We somehow doubt that 'gunshot victims were lining up outside the ER,' while just 11 ivermectin related hospital cases have been reported in the entire state since the beginning of May.


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Originally posted by wcb6092:After Joe Rogan announced that he'd kicked Covid in just a few days using a cocktail of drugs, including Ivermectin - an anti-parasitic prescribed for humans for over 35 years, with over 4 billion doses administered (and most recently as a Covid-19 treatment), the left quickly started mocking Rogan for having taken a 'horse dewormer' due to its dual use in livestock.


I wouldn't take too much from Joe's recovery. He also got monoclonal antibodies, steroids and a Z-pak. No way to know how much impact the Ivermectin had.
 
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I trust 3M, Kimberly Clark, and Halyard Fluidshield, the last two being what are available in my hospital. I don't trust the KN95 stuff from China and elsewhere (as I understand it, it is a subtly different standard, with quality control and consistency being part of it, perhaps someone with more knowledge than I could weigh in on that). This one https://www.amazon.com/Kimberl...d_i=B08NVDFB3R&psc=1 is what I use at work. Fit matters with these though, hence why they come in different sizes. There is a whole fit testing procedure that OSHA mandates we go through yearly, but basically, if you don't feel air going out at the edges when you exhale, and it sucks in a bit when you inhale, you should be good. Beards of course negate the protection they provide as air passes by then.


I bought some of these and even shaved to try them out.

Kimberly-Clark says on the package and their website "This product is not for the healthcare market and not for healthcare personnel. This N95 respirator passes all relevant NIOSH testing protocols. However, please note that NIOSH approval protocols do not include specific tests for respiratory diseases". The website also states "Made in the USA by Kimberly-Clark; TAA compliant; Covered by FDA Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) issued March 28, 2020" which I have no clue what that means, but it seems n95 masks for healthcare have different standards than other n95 masks.

As far as comfort and breathabilty go, these are good. Much better than the surgical masks I wore last year while subbing. I have no special training on getting the correct fit. On inhaling, the mask would suck in slightly, so I'm assuming there was a good seal to my face. However, on exhaling, I could feel air escaping under the metal bar and across my eyes fogging my glasses. This was with normal breathing. I'm fairly certain a good cough or sneeze would escape easily, but be redirected to the sides like a muzzle brake. I tried to get a better fit, but don't see how my results would change without super glue.

With my current sinus infection, I did not bother to attempt a fart test as I can not smell much of anything at the moment.

I think wearing these will keep crap out of your lungs from breathing including viruses. They'll probably keep the spittle in from breathing, coughing, or sneezing, but not aerosolized crud which will be blown out the sides.

They're probably a good option if you are trying to protect yourself, but not the best if you are trying to protect others.
 
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Originally posted by wcb6092:After Joe Rogan announced that he'd kicked Covid in just a few days using a cocktail of drugs, including Ivermectin - an anti-parasitic prescribed for humans for over 35 years, with over 4 billion doses administered (and most recently as a Covid-19 treatment), the left quickly started mocking Rogan for having taken a 'horse dewormer' due to its dual use in livestock.


I wouldn't take too much from Joe's recovery. He also got monoclonal antibodies, steroids and a Z-pak. No way to know how much impact the Ivermectin had.


Joe also has unrestricted access to meds and premium healthcare that many of us do not. With that being said, I do know people who have used Ivermectin vs. Covid without some of the other stuff Joe took and cruised through it just fine in a week.

As far as the overdoses - how many Americans can differentiate a Ml dosage vs. a Mg dosage. (all dosage instructions on line are metric). The difference between a Ml and a Mg is very significant.
 
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Thousand of poor, uneducated people throughout the tropical zones of the world have been using ivermectin for decades now. It's often used without any so called health professionals overseeing the dosages and they've managed to do it without everyone killing themselves.


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UK May Give Healthy 12- to 15-Year-Olds COVID-19 Vaccine Despite Scientific Advice

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...-advice_3982204.html

The UK government is yet to decide whether to offer the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine to all 12- to 15-year-olds, vaccines minister Nadhim Zahawi said on Sunday.

It comes after the government’s independent advisory body on vaccination and immunisation advised against offering the vaccine to healthy children in this age group.

“We have not made any decisions,” Zahawi told Sky News’s “Trevor Phillips on Sunday” programme.

But the minister promised that parents’ consent will be sought if the government pressed on with its vaccination plan.

“I can give that assurance, absolutely,” he said when asked if the parents will be asked.

The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is currently the only CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus vaccine authorised to be used on children over 12 years old by the UK’s medicines regulator.

The Department of Health and Social Care on Aug. 28 preemptively told England’s health service to get ready to vaccinate all 12- to 15-year-olds in anticipation of a recommendation in favour of mass vaccination for the age group.

But the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) on Friday said it was taking a “precautionary approach” and not advising universal vaccination for 12- to 15-year-olds because children in this age group have a very low risk of becoming severely ill from the CCP virus—with just two children in a million admitted to intensive care, according to the latest analysis.

JCVI Deputy Chair Professor Anthony Harnden told The Guardian on Saturday that the “health benefits from vaccinating well 12- to 15-year-olds are marginally greater than the risks.”

Harnden said that he believes it’s “entirely reasonable” to give the vaccine to healthy teenagers with their parents’ consent if “the educational benefits of vaccinating make that benefit/risk balance tip towards a greater benefit/risk ratio.”

The JCVI’s statement on Friday said that any indirect benefit that healthy children can gain from vaccination is “highly uncertain,” and that “there is increasingly robust evidence of an association between vaccination with mRNA COVID-19 vaccines and myocarditis.”

It added that while adverse events are still very rare and mostly short, “the clinical picture is atypical and the medium to long-term (months to years) prognosis, including the possibility of persistence of tissue damage resulting from inflammation, is currently uncertain as sufficient follow-up time has not yet occurred.”

Health ministers of the UK’s four nations have written to their chief medical officers, asking them to “take forward work (drawing on experts as you see fit) to consider the matter from a broader perspective, as suggested by the JCVI.”

The ministers said they will make their decision based on the advice from both the JCVI and the chief medical officers.

Schools in the UK were closed for months during lockdowns since March 2020.

In July this year, more than a million pupils were absent from school in one week, mostly due to being in contact with someone who tested positive for the CCP virus. But MPs were told in August that the absence of children at schools was “largely driven by the testing policies.”

“If you test a lot of children and show that there’s [sic] some cases, and you end up sending home their contacts or classes or even year groups, that has a huge impact,” Professor Sir Andrew Pollard, director of the Oxford Vaccine Group, told the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Coronavirus.

Pollard said that there’s no need to test children en-mass because they generally don’t get severe symptoms from the CCP virus, and those who are most susceptible to severe disease would be offered vaccination.

The JCVI has recommended giving the vaccine to 12- to 15-year-olds with conditions including severe neuro disabilities, Down’s syndrome, immunosuppression, multiple or severe learning disabilities, hematological malignancy, sickle cell disease, type 1 diabetes, and congenital heart disease.


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This is an Ausie gentleman I follow on Youtube for his motorcycle content. Video is of him on a forced 14 day hotel room COVID lockdown. Guy across the hall has had it and is loosing his shit. Surreal that this is where we are now. https://youtu.be/a_emP9BcP2E


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If for some reason I need blood and the blood comes from someone who took the jab and I am someone who should not have that substance...?


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