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Thank you, Chellim1!





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American Medical Association calls for 'immediate end' to use of ivermectin for COVID-19

I'm not going to dignify this by posting the text, the headline says all that one needs to know. Like so many of our institutions, the AMA was corrupted long ago.


"Calls to poison control centers due to ivermectin ingestion have increased five-fold from their pre-pandemic baseline."

Funny they don't give a number. So maybe 5 people called? No reported deaths or serious injuries, because if there had been some they would have reported it 24-7.


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Funny they don't give a number. So maybe 5 people called?



I've noticed that with most of this nonsense.

If the numbers are scary but the percentage isn't, they use numbers. If the percentage is scary, but not the numbers, they use the percentage.

Similar to reports of ICU beds in use. Keep in mind that 50% to 80% occupied is considered normal. So when they say that 90% of the beds are currently occupied due to Covid, that means that one more bed has been filled in a 10 bed ICU.


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There's been nothing but idiocy, incompetence, lies, greed and corruption surrounding this virus from the very beginning but the willful suppression of a potential life saving drug is blatantly evil.


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American Medical Association calls for 'immediate end' to use of ivermectin for COVID-19
The American Medical Association (AMA) is calling for the "immediate end" to the use of ivermectin to treat COVID-19, and for doctors to stop prescribing it for that purpose, amid a spike in the use of the drug.

Experts say that instead of risking the use of unproven drugs, people should get vaccinated.

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American Medical Association calls for 'immediate end' to use of ivermectin for COVID-19

I'm not going to dignify this by posting the text, the headline says all that one needs to know. Like so many of our institutions, the AMA was corrupted long ago.


"Calls to poison control centers due to ivermectin ingestion have increased five-fold from their pre-pandemic baseline."

Funny they don't give a number. So maybe 5 people called? No reported deaths or serious injuries, because if there had been some they would have reported it 24-7.


This is complete bullshit and an outright lie. I am familiar with Ivermectin and the amount one would have to ingest to require overdose treatment would be on par with ingesting dozens and dozens of 200mg Motrin or Advil pills.
 
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Of course it's bullshit, GG!! The media is INCAPABLE of telling the truth. They would outright LIE about water being wet. If I were to allow it, I could get so f***ing mad I could eat nails and spit rivets. Mad Mad



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Candace Owens was denied a COVID test by a clinic because the clinic said she was a conservative

I guess the dempanic really is nothing but a political ploy
 
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Experts say that instead of risking the use of unproven drugs, people should get vaccinated.


I didn't read the article, but this line confuses me. Shouldn't it read "Experts say that instead of risking the use of unproven vaccines, people should get advice/medication from their doctors?"



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No, it's "Experts say that instead of risking the use of unproven drugs, people should instead use unproven vaccines that employ sketchy unproven techniques".





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Israel

Coming soon: Isolation for those who have not received booster shot

https://www.israelnationalnews...ews/News.aspx/312893

As part of changes in the green pass to take effect in October, anyone who hasn't had a third dose will be considered unvaccinated.



Israel is now the world's Covid hotspot: Cases soar despite country's trail-blazing vaccine roll-out - sparking fears other highly-vaccinated countries will be hit by another wave due to jabs' waning immunity

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...ching-yesterday.html


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Whatever happened to “Breakthrough Cases”? Haven’t seen those numbers or the term being used for awhile. Sure is hard to keep anything straight when terminology comes and goes so quickly. I was just getting the hang of it and liked to follow those numbers.


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Whatever happened to “Breakthrough Cases”?


They are no longer "breakthrough cases," you see. As quoted in wcb6092's post, these people are now considered "unvaccinated" as they have not received a booster shot.

On another note, Joe Rogan--who is unvaccinated--was being heckled and mocked for catching covid last weekend. He said he felt like crap Saturday night and Sunday. He took a whole bunch of therapeutics including ivermectin and was criticized for it. Except by Wednesday he put out a message that he was now feeling fantastic. Imagine that. A 54 year old man (admittedly in pretty good shape) simply treated covid with known medicines and treatments that have been shown to have some benefit, and he kicked the virus in about four days. The left of course is furious.

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Wawsn't Fraudici the same one who said we didn't need masks and then later said we needed to wear multiple masks to be safe? I guess he picked up stock in the mask and vaccine companies.
 
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Shouldn't it read "Experts say that instead of risking the use of unproven vaccines, people should get advice/medication from their doctors?"
Why would they do that and potentially risk your doctor being grounded in medicine and deeming the vax unnecessary for you. Remember, there are still a whole lotta healthcare workers, doctors included, that want nothing to do with these vaccines. What they're saying there, clearly, is....You will bend and do as you're told.
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A 54 year old man (admittedly in pretty good shape) simply treated covid with known medicines and treatments that have been shown to have some benefit, and he kicked the virus in about four days.
And best of all, Joe now has natural immunity to the virus that will likely serve him well. It was hysterical though that a number of the media cesspools referred to Rogen taking "horse dewormer". Yeah, let's forget that Ivermectin won its creator a Nobel Prize and has cured illness in humans for decades.


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  • A study in the peer-reviewed journal Antiviral Research reported that ivermectin inhibited the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in vitro and concluded that "ivermectin is worthy of further consideration as a possible SARS-CoV-2 antiviral."
  • An analysis published in the peer-reviewed International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents in November 2020 found that "countries with routine mass drug administration of prophylactic chemotherapy including ivermectin have a significantly lower incidence of COVID-19. ... Prophylactic use of ivermectin against parasitic infections is most common in Africa and we hence show that the reported correlation is highly significant both when compared among African nations as well as in a worldwide context. ... It is suggested that ivermectin be evaluated for potential off-label prophylactic use in certain cases to help bridge the time until a safe and effective vaccine becomes available."
  • A small, pilot, double-blind, placebo-controlled randomized clinical trial conducted in Spain and published in The Lancet in January didn't find statistically significant differences in COVID-19 viral loads but did find "a marked reduction of self-reported anosmia/hyposmia, a reduction of cough and a tendency to lower viral loads and lower (antibody) titers which warrants assessment in larger trials."
  • A systematic review of ivermectin's antiviral effects published in the peer-reviewed journal Nature found that it "could serve as a potential candidate in the treatment of a wide range of viruses including COVID-19 as well as other types of positive-sense single-stranded RNA viruses."
  • A study in the peer-reviewed journal Chest found statistically significant lower mortality rates among hospitalized COVID-19 patients prescribed ivermectin (along with hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin or both) compared with patients without ivermectin in Broward County, Florida.

You can find more related studies on ivermectin and COVID-19 in PubMed, the federal scientific database, and weigh all the costs and benefits for you and your families.

Remember: "Misinformation" simply means information that the powers that be want you to miss.

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I believe the issue is that the data show that is is 'worth of studying,' 'should be evaluated,' 'warrants assessment,' 'could be a candidate,' etc.

In other words, early signs are that it could be promising, but the jury is still out. Those gold-standard double-blind studies simply haven't been done. Nonetheless, people BELIEVE ivermectin is effective against COVID and take it, when all of these papers and analyses simply suggest "maybe." It warrants further study to find out.

Sure, cyanide and arsenic might be effective against the virus in vitro, but you're probably not going to find a lot of in vivo studies on them proving their effectiveness in humans.

It doesn't help that the leading study that triggered a lot of attention to ivermectin was so riddled with errors that it was withdrawn.

I analogize to the study linking autism and vaccines. Admittedly completely fraudulent, now withdrawn, and the author had his medical license taken away for his fraud. But guess what people still believe: vaccines cause autism. Why? A lie some guy made up that got a lot of press, and it now lingers forever.
 
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I see Joe Rogen is making news with the COVID.

What is the common medicine recommended by the non “mainstream” and how does one acquire some?

Anyone know?


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As an Emergency Department RN here in Alaska, this is what we're seeing. Not posting numbers or statistics just observations from myself and coworkers in our corner of the world.

We are seeing an increase in Covid positive patients. Most are unvaccinated. Most are discharged home with a, "Covid Care" kit, basically a plus ox monitor with directions in its use and guidelines for when to seek additional care. There are some hypoxic patients who are being admitted. The percentage of Covid positive patients being admitted seems to be much lower than when it first started.

We have seen very few vaccinated patients who test positive for Covid. Those that we have seen have had very mild symptoms. This includes a nurse that I work with.

The hospital is operating at capacity. This has had a huge effect on the Emergency Department. We are holding admitted patients in the ED because there are no beds available for them in ICU or med/surg. This creates many problems for us. Not being able to move patients through the department is creating long wait ands crowds in the waiting room. As ED nurses we're trained and in the habit of getting in, fixing the problem and transferring our patients to an appropriate level of care or discharging. Caring for patients longer than that is an entirely different set of skills.

We are seeing a huge increase in patient acuities and hospital admissions because of them. These are patients who are negative for Covid but are seriously if not critically ill. This is what I believe is driving our high census rates more than Covid positive patients.

Talking with one of my managers about it and we postulated that this may be a result of previous lockdowns and restrictions. Issues that may have been minor went ignored and untreated and have now become a serious problem. An extreme example was a patient that had what started as a toothache, couldn't get a dentist appointment because of Covid restrictions, ignored it and learned to live with the pain. The tooth became infected, then the jaw, then turned into a blood born infection and now the patient has endocarditis, an infection and inflammation of the lining of the heart. Lots of diabetic patients with foot wounds that have become septic that never should've reached that point. Lots of cardiac issues that have gone untreated for months because patient were afraid to come in. Psych admissions are up significantly.

Also seeing some weird things as well. RSV, a respiratory infection common in pediatrics seems to have exploded. We usually see this in winter months, not summer. Usually seen in pediatrics but now seeing it in adults as well. I haven't seen anything to explain this. My own theory is the virus laid dormant during lockdown, and then found a new home once people started getting back out and school started again. Also seeing positive Covid results in kids now as well.

Then there's the patient behavior;

With the long wait times in the lobby, by the time I get to see a patient, they're already pissed off and they make sure that I know it.

Having a Covid positive patient yell at me the other night, "Why is everything taking so long?!" Had to explain to her that every time one of our staff members needed to come into her room to start an IV, administer meds, take an x-ray, collect samples or answer her call light with requests for warm blankets, ice water or an additional pillow that we all had to don protective gear before entering and then doff and decontaminate ourselves before assisting another patient. That was met with, "Why? I'm the one who has Covid, not you, you're not contagious." Yes, and I'd like to keep it that way.

Had an admitted patient the other night that had pneumonia and was hypoxic. Absolutely refused a Covid test, "Those damn Chinks are putting something on those Q-Tips and you aren't sticking it up my nose." Both myself and the doc explained that it was only a test and was required for admission. The patient walked out against medical advice dropping f-bombs the whole time accusing us of being part of the conspiracy and sending him home to die.

I cannot count how many times I've told a patient they were Covid positive and than have the patient ask me if they could receive the vaccine, "To make it go away." Sorry doesn't work that way.

Patients getting the sniffles and checking in for a Covid test. So desperately want to yell, "That's what the drive-up testing center is for!" Sad thing is, they may not have had Covid when they checked in and then tested negative, but they may have it in a few days after sitting in the waiting room with 40 of their closest friends for 4 hours.

The, "Homeless Lottery" is still going on but not nearly as bad as when things first started. The City leased a hotel to house the homeless population who tested positive and needed to quarantine. So that turned into the homeless actively seeking out Covid positive people and swapping spit, sharing bottles, cigarettes, trading sexual favors and whatever else trying to acquire Covid. They looked at it as a warm bed, 3 hot meals a day and tv for 2 weeks. They openly brag about it.

Then there's our staff. We're tired of dealing with it all. We'd like it to go away. There's no downtime during a shift, we're all running full patient loads with high acuities. We're tired of dealing with the extremes from both sides of the issue. Personally my goal in life right now is to make it through one shift where I don't have to don the Smurf suit and CAPR helmet to enter a patient's room.

Sorry if this turned into a rant, but it's our reality now working in the Emergency Department.




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Do not apoligize.

What you have stated goes to what I have harped on from the beginning.

That the incorrect and overhyped direction taken by the most irresponsible and illequiped "leadership" has done more damage than good.

Even without the vaccines, lockdowns, "social distancing", and fearmongering turned mistrust of everything and everyone, bound in the mis/dis-information campaign, we would still be seeing people presenting with near nothing, to those requiring ICU, and some people passing from this virus.

I hate what it has done to the country and to the world.

We all are suffering and most of it, unnecessary at all.

Rant.

I will.




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