I wonder what it would take for Australia to have a revolution? You take out that government and make sure nothing like it ever exists again and you’ve got one hell of a place to live.

They are acting like it’s some kind of biological weapon. Australia breaks my heart. How can such a beautiful country be run by such ugly ideological authoritarians?

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How can such a beautiful country be run by such ugly ideological authoritarians?

A good friend from HS has a cousin who married an Australian and moved there. She's always been very left-wing and LOVES it there, he said the vast majority of them are left-wing there. He told me recently that she's actually proud and delighted at all the measures being taken there.

Maybe that has a lot to do with it.


Maybe we can get an update by our resident Aussie, cjevans?

"Paging cjevans...cjevans please pick up the Sig Forum white courtesy phone"

Given the way Australia has been acting lately I could completely understand his reluctance to even discuss this subject right now. It’s bad when Beijing is calling your government draconian.

When I was there a few years before covid there were literally signs EVERYWHERE encouraging you to drive safely...do this for safety or do that to be safe. Not to mention the stupid speed cameras they had. You can probably imagine how the nanny state is handling covid...

Just when you think things can't any more ridiculous, something new pops up.

A landlord of eight Florida apartment blocks plans to evict people who refuse to get the Covid vaccine, after 15 of his tenants died in the pandemic.

Santiago A. Alvarez owns eight apartment complexes, with 1,200 units, in Broward and Miami-Dade counties and is the first known large-scale landlord in the US to impose a vaccine requirement for tenants.

However, doubt remains over whether it will be legal as Florida Governor Ron DeSantis issued an executive order banning vaccine passports which will be enforced from September 16.

It prohibits businesses from requiring that customers be vaccinated and could be subject to a $5,000 fine every time they ask for documentation as it violates citizens' civil liberties and rights to keep their medical information private.

In an interview, with the Sun Sentinal, Alvarez said: 'We have to be concerned about our tenants and our employees. All of these are private properties. We're just trying to keep people safe and healthy. It's going to cost us money, but we're very firm on that.'

Alvarez said up to 15 of his tenants had died of Covid-19 over the course of the pandemic and a larger number had gotten sick with the virus.

'We don't want that happening to [any more of] our tenants,' he said.

Under the landlord's zero tolorence policy, which took effect on August 15, tenents who are still unvaccinated when it comes time to renew the lease on their apartment, will be evicted.

However, Alvarez may have exposed a loophole in the governor's ban, forcing the courts to decide whether a 'tenant' is equivalent to a 'customer'.

In an email, Governor DeSantis' press secretary, Christina Pushaw, after referring to her lawyers, wrote: 'Our counsel thinks that would be a violation of the vaccine passport ban.'

But Alvarez's attorney, Juan C. Zorrilla insisted that Alvarez's mandatory vaccine policy does not violate DeSantis' ban because a tenant is not a 'patron' or 'customer.'

He wrote: 'We believe that there is a clear distinction between someone who is an occupant of a dwelling and physically on the premises for an extended duration of time versus someone who is a patron or customer and simply visiting for a short duration.'

Tenants in the eight apartment blocks owned by Alvarez have mixed views, with one woman who lives in the apartment complex Royal Palms at Lauderhill, agreed with her landlord, while another tenent, who claimed to already be vaccinated, said it should be 'illegal' and 'you can't force people'.

In other parts of the US, some schools, businesses and City Councils are requiring customers, students and police officers for proof of vaccination against Covid-19.

Colleges and universities including Virginia Tech and University of Virginia are some of those schools who have mandated that students must be vaccinated or face fines or be unenrolled.

Officials at Virginia Tech have disenrolled more than 130 students who either did not submit their vaccination documentation or did not receive an exemption, the school said on its website.

Meanwhile, the University of Virginia disenrolled at least 238 students, for violating its vaccine mandate.

In Seattle, over 200 police officers risk losing their jobs over the city’s Covid-19 vaccine mandate as they have either not received the jab or refuse to hand over their private medical data.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...e-Covid-vaccine.html

Australia's path to communism

Here is a video from Ann Bressington from Australia in 2013. Notice the parallels to what has happened in the United States. Loss of manufacturing and the decline of the middle class. Lots of very powerful people/companies involved with United Nations/Agenda 21. You better believe they are not just wasting their time.


Hon Ann BRESSINGTON
Independent Member of the Legislative Council
South Australia
Feb. 2, 2013
Adelaide Convention Centre.

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Santiago A. Alvarez owns eight apartment complexes, with 1,200 units, in Broward and Miami-Dade counties and is the first known large-scale landlord in the US to impose a vaccine requirement for tenants.

And I hope all 1,200 sue him.

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Florida businesses, governments or education institutions that require proof of vaccination from customers or members of the public will face fines of $5,000. Violators will have the chance to appeal but, once the fine is finalized, they will have 30 days to pay.

That's 6,000,000 in fines.

It’s so hard to know the truth of all this but that Dr. McDowell video posted on the previous page is frightening.

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It’s so hard to know the truth of all this but that Dr. McDowell video posted on the previous page is frightening.

I watched this video when it first came out.
This is one of many from reputable individuals that get censored. Why the censorship? These are some pretty strong allegations. If untrue, you would think someone would sue him for slander.
One thing I do know for sure. I do not believe the BULL SHIT we are being told by the Government/MSM. It would be wise to look for other motives.

Rutgers University (bless their hearts) has just banned a student from taking online classes because he isn't vaccinated

I'm hard pressed to call them an institution of higher learning when the IQ of the administration seems to be very low

I wasn't aware that the CCP flu could be transmitted via the internet

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I'm hard pressed to call them an institution of higher learning when the IQ of the administration seems to be very low

Or the corruption of the administration is so high!

and more on the illustrious Fauci and his complicity in the world-wide fiasco

from Revolver

New Details Emerge About Coronavirus Research at Chinese Lab

More than 900 pages of materials related to US.-funded coronavirus research in China were released following a FOIA lawsuit by The Intercept.

Newly released documents provide details of U.S.-funded research on several types of coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China. The Intercept has obtained more than 900 pages of documents detailing the work of EcoHealth Alliance, a U.S.-based health organization that used federal money to fund bat coronavirus research at the Chinese laboratory. The trove of documents includes two previously unpublished grant proposals that were funded by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, as well as project updates relating to EcoHealth Alliance’s research, which has been scrutinized amid increased interest in the origins of the pandemic.

The documents were released in connection with ongoing Freedom of Information Act litigation by The Intercept against the National Institutes of Health. The Intercept is making the full documents available to the public.

“This is a road map to the high-risk research that could have led to the current pandemic,” said Gary Ruskin, executive director of U.S. Right To Know, a group that has been investigating the origins of Covid-19.

One of the grants, titled “Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence,” outlines an ambitious effort led by EcoHealth Alliance President Peter Daszak to screen thousands of bat samples for novel coronaviruses. The research also involved screening people who work with live animals. The documents contain several critical details about the research in Wuhan, including the fact that key experimental work with humanized mice was conducted at a biosafety level 3 lab at Wuhan University Center for Animal Experiment — and not at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, as was previously assumed. The documents raise additional questions about the theory that the pandemic may have begun in a lab accident, an idea that Daszak has aggressively dismissed.

The bat coronavirus grant provided EcoHealth Alliance with a total of $3.1 million, including $599,000 that the Wuhan Institute of Virology used in part to identify and alter bat coronaviruses likely to infect humans. Even before the pandemic, many scientists were concerned about the potential dangers associated with such experiments. The grant proposal acknowledges some of those dangers: “Fieldwork involves the highest risk of exposure to SARS or other CoVs, while working in caves with high bat density overhead and the potential for fecal dust to be inhaled.”

Alina Chan, a molecular biologist at the Broad Institute, said the documents show that EcoHealth Alliance has reason to take the lab-leak theory seriously. “In this proposal, they actually point out that they know how risky this work is. They keep talking about people potentially getting bitten — and they kept records of everyone who got bitten,” Chan said. “Does EcoHealth have those records? And if not, how can they possibly rule out a research-related accident?”

According to Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist at Rutgers University, the documents contain critical information about the research done in Wuhan, including about the creation of novel viruses. “The viruses they constructed were tested for their ability to infect mice that were engineered to display human type receptors on their cell,” Ebright wrote to The Intercept after reviewing the documents. Ebright also said the documents make it clear that two different types of novel coronaviruses were able to infect humanized mice. “While they were working on SARS-related coronavirus, they were carrying out a parallel project at the same time on MERS-related coronavirus,” Ebright said, referring to the virus that causes Middle East Respiratory Syndrome.

Asked about the grant materials, Robert Kessler, communications manager at EcoHealth Alliance, said, “We applied for grants to conduct research. The relevant agencies deemed that to be important research, and thus funded it. So I don’t know that there’s a whole lot to say.”

The grant was initially awarded for a five-year period — from 2014 to 2019. Funding was renewed in 2019 but suspended by the Trump administration in April 2020.

The closest relative of SARS-CoV-2, which causes Covid-19, is a virus found in bats, making the animals a focal point for efforts to understand the origins of the pandemic. Exactly how the virus jumped to humans is the subject of heated debate. Many scientists believe that it was a natural spillover, meaning that the virus passed to humans in a setting such as a wet market or rural area where humans and animals are in close contact. Biosafety experts and internet sleuths who suspect a lab origin, meanwhile, have spent more than a year poring over publicly available information and obscure scientific publications looking for answers. In the past few months, leading scientists have also called for a deeper investigation of the pandemic’s origins, as has President Joe Biden, who in May ordered the intelligence community to study the issue. On August 27, Biden announced that the intelligence inquiry was inconclusive.

Biden blamed China for failing to release critical data, but the U.S. government has also been slow to release information. The Intercept initially requested the proposals in September 2020.

“I wish that this document had been released in early 2020,” said Chan, who has called for an investigation of the lab-leak origin theory. “It would have changed things massively, just to have all of the information in one place, immediately transparent, in a credible document that was submitted by EcoHealth Alliance.”

The second grant, “Understanding Risk of Zoonotic Virus Emergence in Emerging Infectious Disease Hotspots of Southeast Asia,” was awarded in August 2020 and extends through 2025. The proposal, written in 2019, often seems prescient, focusing on scaling up and deploying resources in Asia in case of an outbreak of an “emergent infectious disease” and referring to Asia as “this hottest of the EID hotspots.”

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Originally posted by stickman428:
How can such a beautiful country be run by such ugly ideological authoritarians?

A good friend from HS has a cousin who married an Australian and moved there. She's always been very left-wing and LOVES it there, he said the vast majority of them are left-wing there. He told me recently that she's actually proud and delighted at all the measures being taken there.

Maybe that has a lot to do with it.


Maybe we can get an update by our resident Aussie, cjevans?

"Paging cjevans...cjevans please pick up the Sig Forum white courtesy phone"

PASig, I believe most of Australia’s population resides in two major cities. This probably has a lot to do with their politics. Unfortunately, politicians can never let a tragedy go to waste so once Australia had a school shooting it wasn’t hard for their worthless government with the help of their media to brainwash the population into giving up their weapons. Many of them ( NOT ALL OF THEM) are actually proud of being disarmed.



Jupiter, how does that saying go? When you cut out a mans tongue you are not proving him to be a liar but rather showing the world you’re afraid of what he has to say. If it’s crap why not allow it to stay up and allow people to refute it? The censorship only makes the claims seem more valid whether they are or are not.

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Santiago A. Alvarez owns eight apartment complexes, with 1,200 units, in Broward and Miami-Dade counties and is the first known large-scale landlord in the US to impose a vaccine requirement for tenants.

And I hope all 1,200 sue him.

Unfortunately it's probable that half the residents love the idea, have the vaccine or are so afraid of losing their lives to COVID thus they want all the non vaccinated residents out... personal freedom be dammed

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Santiago A. Alvarez owns eight apartment complexes, with 1,200 units, in Broward and Miami-Dade counties and is the first known large-scale landlord in the US to impose a vaccine requirement for tenants.

And I hope all 1,200 sue him.

Wait, what? He owns the apartment. It's his apartment. Do we really need to courts/government getting involved in this too?

Honestly landlords have had enough grief over the last couple of years. The laws have made being a landlord just awful. Hell, in many places people have not even had to pay rent since there are no evictions.

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Jupiter, how does that saying go? When you cut out a mans tongue you are not proving him to be a liar but rather showing the world you’re afraid of what he has to say. If it’s crap why not allow it to stay up and allow people to refute it? The censorship only makes the claims seem more valid whether they are or are not.

So true, Stick.

Many here have posted content that goes against the Government/msm narrative. In many cases, minds have been changed for both sides. We're fortunate to have someplace like this fine forum to express our opinions and let members draw their own conclusions.
I'll risk being called a "Conspiracy Theorist" if it's something I believe in.

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Wait, what? He owns the apartment. It's his apartment. Do we really need to courts/government getting involved in this too?

Honestly landlords have had enough grief over the last couple of years. The laws have made being a landlord just awful. Hell, in many places people have not even had to pay rent since there are no evictions.

While I agree that there should be no free rent, no stay on evictions...
I really have to ask: Do you really think it's a landlord's place to ask? Does he get all of your medical records?
I believe my health care decisions are personal and private. They are none of my employer's business and they are no landlord's business.

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Wait, what? He owns the apartment. It's his apartment. Do we really need to courts/government getting involved in this too?

Honestly landlords have had enough grief over the last couple of years. The laws have made being a landlord just awful. Hell, in many places people have not even had to pay rent since there are no evictions.

While I agree that there should be no free rent, no stay on evictions...
I really have to ask: Do you really think it's a landlord's place to ask? Does he get all of your medical records?
I believe my health care decisions are personal and private. They are none of my employer's business and they are no landlord's business.

Someone needs to ask Mr. Alverez if its OK for me to rent a unit if I have aids or any myriad of other diseases. I'm with the group hoping this nitwit gets sued into bankruptcy.

Man check out the pictures in this thread.

This is the title picture. Some of the others could have been dreamed up by hollywood but are what happened over the past year and a half. The China lung has made the word mad. (Definite big brother vibes)



https://threadreaderapp.com/th...890460272103457.html

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Maybe we can get an update by our resident Aussie, cjevans?

so once Australia had a school shooting it

A school shooting isn't what led to the legislation and firearms amnesty, and subsequent gun control.

The Port Arthur massacre of 28–29 April 1996 was a mass shooting in which 35 people were killed and 23 others were wounded in Port Arthur, Tasmania. The murderer, Martin Bryant, who has never provided a reason, pleaded guilty and was given 35 life sentences without the possibility of parole.

Less than a month after the massacre, federal and state legislators—led by Prime Minister John Howard—crafted the National Firearms Agreement.

It created extensive licensing and registration procedures, which included a 28-day waiting period for gun sales.

In addition, it banned all fully automatic or semiautomatic weapons, except when potential buyers could provide a valid reason—which did not include self-defense—for owning such a firearm. The federal government also instituted a gun-buyback program, which resulted in the surrender of some 700,000 firearms.

There are some 2 million registered firearms in country, with a guesstimate of 1.5 - 6 million unregistered.

As of Dec 2020, population stats:
NSW 8 million
Victoria 6.6 million
Queensland 5 million

These 3 states make up the majority of voters.

There are a lot of 20 and 30 somethings that have grown up with the perception that guns are bad.

And some are egged on by their constituents ...

The Sporting Shooters Association of Australian have other ideas ...

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