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Maybe we can get an update by our resident Aussie, cjevans?

so once Australia had a school shooting it



A school shooting isn't what led to the legislation and firearms amnesty, and subsequent gun control.

The Port Arthur massacre of 28–29 April 1996 was a mass shooting in which 35 people were killed and 23 others were wounded in Port Arthur, Tasmania. The murderer, Martin Bryant, who has never provided a reason, pleaded guilty and was given 35 life sentences without the possibility of parole.

Less than a month after the massacre, federal and state legislators—led by Prime Minister John Howard—crafted the National Firearms Agreement.

It created extensive licensing and registration procedures, which included a 28-day waiting period for gun sales.

In addition, it banned all fully automatic or semiautomatic weapons, except when potential buyers could provide a valid reason—which did not include self-defense—for owning such a firearm. The federal government also instituted a gun-buyback program, which resulted in the surrender of some 700,000 firearms.

There are some 2 million registered firearms in country, with a guesstimate of 1.5 - 6 million unregistered.

As of Dec 2020, population stats:
NSW 8 million
Victoria 6.6 million
Queensland 5 million

These 3 states make up the majority of voters.

There are a lot of 20 and 30 somethings that have grown up with the perception that guns are bad.

And some are egged on by their constituents ...

The Sporting Shooters Association of Australia have other ideas ...

As for MS Bressington, well, she has toes in many conspiracy theory and denialist movements. She is anti-fluoride, anti-vaccine, believes in the New World Order, believes chemtrails are real, and is a Monckton advocate. And the Australian Senate is in league with the Illuminati.

YMMV

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‘Do I Have To Sue CNN?’: Joe Rogan Accuses Media Giant Of ‘Making Sh*t Up’ Over ‘Horse Dewormer’ Claims

Joe Rogan wondered aloud whether he should “sue CNN” for allegedly “making shit up” and claiming the podcaster used “horse dewormer” when he took ivermectin in his recent battle with COVID-19.

“Well, well, well if it isn’t old horse worm Rogan,” comedian and podcaster Tom Segura exclaimed at the start of “The Joe Rogan” podcast in a clip posted on YouTube Tuesday. “I’m glad you’re well.”

“Do I have to sue CNN?” Rogan replied. “They’re making shit up. They keep saying I’m taking horse dewormer. I literally got it from a doctor.” 

https://dailycaller.com/2021/0...ibodie-suing-outlet/



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‘Do I Have To Sue CNN?’: Joe Rogan Accuses Media Giant Of ‘Making Sh*t Up’ Over ‘Horse Dewormer’ Claims
Don't know whether he 'has' to, but I sure wish he would. CNN needs to be continually painted publicly as the garbage purveyor they are. As Rogan mentioned in that video, he turned out to be the Left's biggest nightmare when he did finally get sick, but recovered without issues in a mere few days.


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Long, with lots of charts and graphs, which I did not post, so look at the original source, if interested:

Quinn: "This War On COVID Will Never End"


https://www.zerohedge.com/covi...covid-will-never-end

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Can’t we just post a paragraph or two with a “more at link” instead of posting the whole unibomber manifesto?




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^^^^ Thank you Jones
 
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Personally, I appreciate not having to leave sigforum to go to another site in order to read the article. But many times I can have shoddy internet speeds depending on my location, so the less I have to navigate the web the better.


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"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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A thorough overview with a ton of links and attribution, must read IMO --

The great Ivermectin deworming hoax


The lesson is not about Ivermectin being poisonous because it isn't, but about the pervasiveness of a type of new internet propaganda termed "informational flooding.”
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It was all untrue. We were all lied to...you can do your own research. For example, google the news on Ivermectin poisoning articles, and you will find almost all of them were published within the last few weeks. Nothing before then.
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Let's say that if Ivermectin costs a few dollars a pill, these new medicines will be one hundred to one thousand times pricier. Merck's Molnupiravir has already been funded to the tune of 1.2 billion by the US government - translated, it means we - our tax dollars - have paid Merck for it already.
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By ignoring cheap repurposed drug early outpatient treatments, we have already paid with our lives, in addition to whatever money it has cost us to entice Big Media to publish these hundreds of "hit pieces." ...We know early outpatient treatment works for COVID-19, just as early treatment works against cancer, diabetes, glaucoma, hepatitis, and most other diseases.
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Ivermectin has been a resounding success. It not only worked in the lab, it spectacularly reduced death in the living, and it worked early in the disease and late in the disease, often rescuing patients from ventilators and the jaws of death. It even performed before the infection began by effectively preventing it and nicely stopping viral transmission. And it was safe without serious adverse effects. In short, God Himself could not have given us a better tool to eradicate this disease....We now have 63 and counting studies involving some 26,000 patients showing up to a 96% reduction in death associated with Ivermectin.
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And don't believe they will ever approve Ivermectin. Over the last two months, the large pharmacy chains have started to refuse to fill valid physician prescriptions.


On and on, read this article!




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"Why the long face, Joe?"

Yeah, Joe, send the papers, send the papers.




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AP Corrects Ivermectin ‘Fake News’ — It’s Only 2% Poison Control Calls, Not 70% as Earlier Published

https://newsrescue.com/ap-corr...s-earlier-published/

In the article from August 24, titled, “Livestock medicine doesn’t work against COVID, doctors warn,” the AP falsely reported that 70 percent of Mississippi’s poison control calls were related to Ivermectin.



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The Ronacoaster, Once You Get in the Vaccine Car You Ain’t Getting Off Until The Ride’s Over

For several months I have been dispassionately following multiple data-streams about the SARS-CoV-2 virus, aka COVID-19, the vaccinations and the variants. Just following data; just following discussions of data; just looking at public statements by those who generate information about the data. All of it from a generally ambivalent position, willing to hear, review, contemplate and give consideration to any possibility.

♦ Should I get Vaccinated? – Like a bubble on a level, the outcome of analysis sometimes goes in one direction, sometimes goes in the other. However, for approximately 8 weeks the level has tilted. While there is still a possibility something drastic might change the big picture outcome, the weight of the data is only going in one direction now.

A recent public release from the Los Angeles County Public Health department [link here] is yet another data-point in an assembly of larger data-points, but it is time to accept that alternative data-points are not likely to tilt the analytical level back in the pro-jab direction. It seems innocuous, but look at the highlight within the statement:



Essentially, the LA public health officials are stating the exact same thing that Dr. Anthony Fauci said last Sunday on CBS Face The Nation. The Mu variant is showing greater infectious transmissibility, and simultaneously the data shows this variant -yet again- has an ability to evade the vaccine induced specific antibodies.

The Delta variant had the same set of traits as described above for Mu. Greater transmissibility, greater ability to avoid vaccine induced antibodies, but less deadly than the original virus. This mutation (ie variant) is why vaccinated persons were later discovered to be capable of being infected (with higher loads of virus) and transmitting or shedding the variant at higher levels. Thus the need for a booster to target the Delta variant (shot 3).

The Lambda variant had the same set of traits as the Delta variant. Greater transmissibility, greater ability to avoid vaccine induced antibodies, but less deadly than the Delta strain. This mutation (ie variant) is why vaccinated persons (2 shots) who also had the booster (shot 3) were capable of being infected and transmitting the next variant. Thus the need for booster shot 4 (see Israel).

The Mu variant now has the same set of traits as the Lambda and Delta variant. Greater tranmissibiltiy, greater ability to avoid vaccine induced antibodies, but likely less deadly than the Delta and Lambda strain. It is yet to be determined if booster shot 5 will be needed (Israel beta-test), or if BigPharma can blend, or as Dr. Fauci stated Sunday “mix and match”, vaccine ingredients from Delta and Mu into one mRNA booster in the U.S. which would technically be called booster one (shot three).

Bottom line, the vaccine makers are chasing variants and modifying the “vaccine” shots to keep up.

The COVID-19, SARS-CoV-2, virus was created in a lab. The vaccine was created to address that virus. However, the vaccine created variants. The variants require boosters…. which generate variants…. which require boosters…. which generate variants. It seems like one long ronacoaster that you get locked into once you take the vaccine and you ain’t getting off until the strain of the variant gets so weak that it no longer requires a booster to chase it.

If you accept the virus was created in a lab, then this quest to chase it’s variants does actually make sense.

This was the warning message sent out by renowned vaccine researcher Geert Vanden Bossche [SEE HERE], who received his DVM from the University of Ghent, Belgium, and his PhD degree in Virology from the University of Hohenheim, Germany. Dr. Bossche sent an early warning letter about this exact scenario to the World Health Organization. [pdf LETTER HERE].

Dr. Bossche is not alone in his research and opinion. This is now a widely distributed discussion amid the small world of vaccinologists, vaccine researchers and vaccine creators. The man-made nature of the virus (it was not naturally occurring) combined with a man-made mRNA approach to a vaccine as a solution, has resulted in a process that is dangerously undermining the human bodies natural immunity process.

Again, bottom line. The vaccines are likely creating more danger, through mutations, than the original SARS-CoV-2 virus itself.

https://theconservativetreehou...es-over/#more-216572



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It's actually not even 2%. It's 70% of those 2% of Ivermectin calls that were from "livestock" medicine.


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if this 'plandemic' is as bad as what everyone is making it out to be, and China is the cause, why does the country still exist?

why isn't Beijing a smoking hole in the ground?
 
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if this 'plandemic' is as bad as what everyone is making it out to be, and China is the cause, why does the country still exist?


Because racist. And btw, include Fauci and anyone complicit in funding the research at WIV.

The one last laugh we will all get out of this is based on proverbs that suggest - be careful what you wish for, you just might get it / what you wish for may the last thing you want.

If we don't reverse this tide of wokism, I want to be around when the woke realizes that they got what they said they wanted. I can die laughing then.




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AP Corrects Ivermectin ‘Fake News’ — It’s Only 2% Poison Control Calls, Not 70% as Earlier Published



It's actually not even 2%. It's 70% of those 2% of Ivermectin calls that were from "livestock" medicine.


It's EXACTLY the same as the stuff hacks are now trying to peddle at $16 for a 16mg pill that is for humans. SAME exact stuff.
 
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AP Corrects Ivermectin ‘Fake News’ — It’s Only 2% Poison Control Calls, Not 70% as Earlier Published



It's actually not even 2%. It's 70% of those 2% of Ivermectin calls that were from "livestock" medicine.


It's EXACTLY the same as the stuff hacks are now trying to peddle at $16 for a 16mg pill that is for humans. SAME exact stuff.


Same chemical formula, but probably at different concentrations (livestock formulation for a 1,200 pound animal v. pills for a 200 pound human).
 
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A whole lot of problems with that opinion. First, he claims that the virus evades only "vaccine-specific" antibodies, implying that it does not evade natural antibodies from infection. The source he is referring to does not support that conclusion.

Second, his assumption is that the virus is man-made. There has been a LOT of analysis done on that very issue, with evidence on both sides, so it is not conclusive (yet). In other words, you can't assume that, because there is evidence pointing away from that theory.
 
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Australia Is Now Confiscating Booze Delivered To People Forced Into Lockdown

https://www.zerohedge.com/covi...-apartment-buildings

In but the latest sign that Covid locked-down Australia has abandoned all pretenses of a democratic society and has effectively become a police state, Aussies are now having their booze confiscated in the name of 'health monitoring'.

Apartment blocks subject to lockdown measures in New South Wales, which is home to Sydney and other large population centers, are reportedly being monitored by the government's NSW Health agency. "Residents in apartment blocks locked-down by NSW Health are having their alcohol deliveries policed as part of a policy to limit the number of drinks being consumed each day," according to https://news.com.au.

esidents of one particular building have accused authorities of doing random searches of their private mail and care packages sent by family members and friends. "They are searching all bags and things coming into the building… They confiscated a series of gifts," one resident of Mission Australia’s Common Ground building in Camperdown said. "So things like bottles of spirits, we weren’t allowed to have those and we still (aren’t)."

The complaints came after NSW Health took control of select apartment buildings ostensibly in order to monitor and limit the spread of the coronavirus, which means in some cases where infections have been found, all residents were forced into isolation. These buildings are deemed under strict lockdown and have a police presence around them, apparently even intercepting mail.

A statement in national media confirmed that health authorities are enforcing the following restrictions:

Residents are allowed to receive a ration of one of the following: six beers or pre-mixed drinks, one bottle of wine, or one 375ml bottle of spirits.

Excess alcohol is being confiscated until lockdown rules are lifted.

Throughout most of the pandemic pubs in large cities like Sydney have remained close, along with other public venues like gyms, hairdressers, and restaurants.

This fueled a rise in online alcohol sales and home deliveries. But apparently authorities are sweeping in to take this 'option' away too.

Australian health authorities are promising that pubs will once again soon open, but only after they implement a state vaccine passport app which will enable clients to be screened at the door over whether they've been double-jabbed yet.


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Australian health authorities are promising that pubs will once again soon open, but only after they implement a state vaccine passport app which will enable clients to be screened at the door over whether they've been double-jabbed yet.
Mental retardation on world display. Their goal is supposedly to stem the spread of the virus. Yet it has been scientifically proven that vaxed people can still both acquire and spread the virus. Soooooooooooooooo how does this vaccine passport BS accomplish anything when both vaxed and non-vaxed can spread the virus? Yeah, the best and brightest among us are truly in charge today. Roll EyesRoll EyesRoll Eyes


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