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Mmmm.... <SNIFF> Hints of moth and tree bark! I love Octoberfest! "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Maybe my words were harsh but I’ll let them stand. It’s hard to accept that he would call the data bogus while there’s a penalty attached to providing false data. Will some data be wrong? Maybe. But 480k with no follow up from the cdc? They would have a vested interest in dispelling any data contrary to the story they’be been telling us for the past 18 months ___________________________ No thanks, I've already got a penguin. | |||
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Isnt the J&J a more traditional type vaccine? I'm alright it's the rest of the world that's all screwed up! | |||
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Let's be polite, please. | |||
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Ya know where we get our biggest dose of Vitamin D from right? Being outside in the sun. An acquaintance of mine through church got the WuFlu and said just being outside on his deck for a couple hours a day made him feel a bit better as he was recovering (I don't think his symptoms were very severe in the first place). Who knows, just being outside in the fresh air might have contributed to him feeling better. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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Old, obese, high blood pressure, immuno-compromised, and/or suffering from serious health issues are all targeted groups this virus loves to pick on. Statistically, younger, fit, people without serious health issues, fair very well against this virus, vaxed or not. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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From the link in rat2306's post: "The Novavax method uses moth cells to make spike proteins: Researchers select the desired genes that create certain SARS-CoV-2 antigens (spike protein). Researchers put the genes into a baculovirus, an insect virus. The baculovirus infects moth cells and replicates inside them. These moth cells create lots of spike proteins. Researchers extract and purify the spike proteins." Think the early, unpublished field trials were done way back around 1966 in Point Pleasant, W. Virginia. Maybe.  The technology: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p...150248/figure/f0010/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7150248/ ____________________ | |||
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I got it, and needed the regeneron infusion. My wife got it and caught pneumonia as well. she was in the hospital 5 nights and on remdisivir. We both exercise, and statistically speaking I should have been low risk. I'm not sure I would have done OK without the regeneron. My wife is slim and 48 walks 4 miles a day, and it nearly killed her. Neither of us are vaccinated. Did not make statistical sense to do so. I feel angry, at nothing specific, but want to recover. China must pay. There is something good and motherly about Washington, the grand old benevolent National Asylum for the helpless. - Mark Twain The Gilded Age #CNNblackmail #CNNmemewar | |||
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I know better than getting back in here after saying adios hundreds of pages ago, but here goes. I personally would not call the VAERS "bogus". Sure, it will let anybody get in to report possible adverse reactions to vaccines, and potentially there will be false reporting. But, the public are not the only ones that report, as healthcare providers/organizations and vaccine manufacturers are also reporting, and I'll wager that most are honest reporting. And sure, there are follow up investigations, if they detect a "safety signal". Here is the direct quote (Disclaimer) from CDC, with emphasis mine. https://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html
An example of serious adverse event attributed to a vaccine leading to its withdrawal from the market was the rotavirus vaccine (RotaShield®) 22 years ago. Those of us who were doing pediatrics remembered it well. Kids getting the vaccine were developing intussusception, a condition where the gut was telescoping on itself leading to potential fatal blockage if not caught and treated promptly. With all that said, that doesn't mean I'm cheering for the CDC. Not in the least. What they, and the rest of organized medicine (AMA, ACP, AAP, etc.) and the so-called prestigious medical publications, together with big tech and the corrupt media and politicians, have done in the last almost 2 years regarding this coronavirus is despicable, as far as I'm concerned. I have not taken the shot and don't intend to ever getting the shot. I have my own reasons. People who take the shot have their reasons, and I personally don't care. I just wish people respect each other's choices.This message has been edited. Last edited by: 12131, Q | |||
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Stickman, I am saying that the RNA tech utilized in the vaccine was/is being tested for Cancer and HIV treatment/prevention. The companies playing around this technology know what its shortcomings and issues are - and they know it was never intended to be utilized as a successful Corona vaccine. So you are correct that they did "rush" to market with the vaccine - but that doesn't mean they don't know what the inherent risks are. (thus their demand for complete immunity from legal action from its victims) | |||
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GraniteGuy, thanks for the clarification.  Yeah, that whole immunity from legal repercussions aspect is anything but confidence inspiring. Frankly, it’s bullshit in my opinon.DJ_Boston, I am sorry that happened to you and your wife. You are both in my thoughts and prayers. I’ve been praying pretty dang hard lately. I truly believe prayer is quite powerful. A good friend of mine and his wife who are both in their mid 30’s caught it and it kicked their ass. I too find myself with a profound anger bordering on belligerent rage over this whole cluster. If it is proven that China had an opportunity to contain this and didn’t via negligence or malice then I don’t see how they survive as a country. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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I think another consideration needs to be advocacy and options. mRNA as experimental and optional is one thing for a terminally ill patient. mRNA as experimental and mandatory without legal repercussions for something that is 99% recoverable is wildly ridiculous. Experimental, Mandatory, Legal Obligation - pick one. You don't get all three. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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I'm sure that virtually the entire world would be plenty pissed if China were ever to be proven, conclusively, to be at fault in the way you describe (and I'm not one who needs further convincing; I already believe it). But what do you mean when you say you "don't see how they survive as a country."? How and why would they not, and who would do what to bring about that outcome? Whether or not they are at fault, the damage to humanity is incalculable. If they are at fault, there is no way to make amends. But how is it they cease to exist as a country? Just wondering. | |||
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I had to look that episode up, RichardC. Let's hope not! What intrigued me on the Novavax is that the vaccine is produced (if I read it correctly) with significantly fewer of the CoV spike proteins than the mRNA ones. Much of the response triggered to attack the spike proteins is elicited as a response to the saponin and moth cells as well. First I heard of it was from browsing on YouTube. I hope I captured the gist of the videos (and they're correct). It sounds good, and the technology has been tried and true for seasonal influenza. | |||
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Was hoping they'd get this on the street around Labor Day, but....maybe by Halloween for sure! | |||
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Oh oh, me, me. Let me answer with what came to mind. Completely remove the entire national government. China is no longer a country. Install a new constitution and let, for better or worse, Biden and his cacklin Ho be their leaders (aka puppets). Then the whole world will reap the benefits of their natural resources until the end of time. Manufacturing would be moved offshore (ie - back to the US). Population would be subject high fees and taxation to the benefit of tourists who may want to visit. But even then, their debt to society would not be paid. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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Maybe another treatment option. Hebrew U. study shows antiviral drug reduces inflammation in COVID patients inside 48 hrs https://www.i24news.tv/en/news...tients-inside-48-hrs Clinical results show Tricor can facilitate hospitalized patients' removal from oxygen within 5-7 days A Hebrew University of Jerusalem (HUJI) study released Monday shows that a drug usually used to reduce cholesterol utilizes the same lipid-lowering effects to successfully treat hospitalized COVID-19 patients. Lipids are known to initiate severe inflammation in a process called lipotoxicity. The team, which Prof Yaakov Nahmias leads, identified the lipid-lowering drug TriCor (fenofibrate) as an effective antiviral last year, showing it both reduced lung cell damage and blocked virus replication in the laboratory, according to a HUJI statement. In this study, Nahmias coordinated with Prof Shlomo Maayan, Head of the Infectious Disease Unit at Barzilai Medical Center in the southern city of Ashkelon. In total, 15 severe-hospitalized COVID-19 patients with pneumonia requiring oxygen support were treated. In addition to the usual standard of care, those patients in the study were given 145 mg/day of TriCor (fenofibrate) for 10 days and continuously monitored for diseases progression and outcomes. "The results were astounding," Nahmias enthused. "Progressive inflammation markers, that are the hallmark of deteriorative COVID-19, dropped within 48 hours of treatment. Moreover, 14 out of the 15 severe patients didn't require oxygen support within a week of treatment," he added. "All patients were discharged within less than a week after the treatment began and were discharged to complete the 10-day treatment at home, with no drug-related adverse events reported," noted Maayan. The findings were released on Research Square and are currently under peer review. The data were presented at a time when Israel has witnessed another spike of infections and hospitalizations, due to the prevalence of the delta variant. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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Damn, you just described me. Except for the "obese." I could stand to lose maybe 20 pounds, but other than that, I am in the group that you mentioned. הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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Chicago police union says 'hell no' to Lightfoot's COVID-19 vaccine mandate https://www.washingtonexaminer...foot-vaccine-mandate A leading Chicago police union opposed an impending mandate from Mayor Lori Lightfoot that requires all city officers to get the COVID-19 vaccine. John Catanzara, president of the Chicago Fraternal Order of Police, said his group is "100% against mandated vaccines for our members," according to a statement given to Fox 32 . "This vaccine has no studies for long-term side effects or consequences. None," Catanzara told the Chicago Sun-Times . "To mandate anybody to get that vaccine, without that data as a baseline , amongst other issues, is a ‘Hell, no’ for us." He also insisted all police unions in the city oppose such a mandate. “It ain’t just our guys. It’s the sergeants, lieutenants, and captains. This is a united front. All four of the unions. It’s no longer John Catanzara’s big mouth, like they like to spin it all the time,” he told the outlet. Lightfoot confirmed on Wednesday all city employees would be required to get fully vaccinated against the virus, effective Oct. 15. She first announced her intention to issue a vaccine mandate for city employees earlier this week. "City employees are absolutely going to be required to be vaccinated," Lightfoot said at a Monday press conference. "We’re working through those discussions, which have been ongoing now for a couple weeks with our colleagues in organized labor that represent city employees." _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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Statiscally, any of those health conditions make you more suscepable to just about everything, not just covid. | |||
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