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What date was the first case of this? Not the first diagnosed, or discovered, the first infection?


Who knows? it's inconsequential. The only thing that matters at this point is how we slow it to keep our medical system from being overwhelmed. What's your FD/EMS normal response time? If they are running extra calls or completely overwhelmed by COV19 calls what does that do for a gunshot victim or heart attack patient where minutes or even seconds might count?

What if you own a business that can't source materials and have to shutter your doors? What if you are an hourly worker like me and can't work from home? What if you were planning on retiring next year?

The financial effect from this is going to hurt a lot of people no matter if the death rate is smaller than the World Health Organization states.

I'm currently worried about my finances and the economy for now. If we are on the same trajectory as Italy, we are in bad shape in two weeks. Someone posted a video on exponential growth, I didn't watch it because I've taken math classes, so I'm familiar with the concept, but this is just the tip of the iceberg.


I would certainly start by not quoting made up statistics while admitting the actual numbers are “inconsequential”.

You are part of the problem. The virus has caused very little of what you say. The panic has done all the above.

The sooner people act responsible and stop spreading panic, the sooner this will dissipate into the truth that it is.


I agree with Skins. Look at Italy, it is a first world country with very good medical care. The ENTIRE country is on lock down. They have 10,149 coronavirus confirmed, 631 deaths from it and only 724 recovered. That's 6% deaths. If you've been looking at the John Hopkins site, it has been growing exponentially the past 2 weeks.

Look at the U.S., we went from 2 cases in Washington State to 972 cases in like 10 days, 28 deaths and only 4 recovered.

IT IS something to be concerned about. IT IS effecting many people's income and bank accounts and investments, including my own. It is effecting many people in other ways, schools closing for who knows how long.

BOTTOM LINE- we don't know what it will or won't turn into, how many it will effect, how many will die from it, BUT what we do know is that it is already effecting many people's pockets and many parts of the world. Nobody knows how serious it can/will get and it is best to be prepared for it and take precautions.

If my money grew as fast as this virus, I'd be retired in a year.
 
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Does your narrative hold true in Italy??


Of course it does.




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Does your narrative hold true in Italy??


Of course it does.


Absolutely it does.




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.. but a lot of people are probably going to die.


46,000 people are a lot.




 
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Does your narrative hold true in Italy??


Of course it does.
. That narrative worked 2 weeks ago however reality has altered that view. Your narrative is known as the Trish Regan narrative, which is slowly being challenged by even FOX.
 
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Few cases in Philly. I think New Jersey has 16 now with one dead?

Yippee.
 
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Does your narrative hold true in Italy??


Of course it does.
. That narrative worked 2 weeks ago however reality has altered that view. Your narrative is known as the Trish Regan narrative, which is slowly being challenged by even FOX.


Great for them. You guys enjoy the panic, or “concern” or whatever the media sock puppets are telling you to call it.




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Does your narrative hold true in Italy??


Of course it does.


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At the end of the day, this will all be forgotten by May, like it or not.



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I think the number of reported cases is low by a factor of 5 and probably 10. Many cases present as just the flu or mild pneumonia. If you count that the mortality rate plummets. That doesn't feed the panic so...

The public school system is going to force the US in to a terrible depression. Teachers always say they aren't babysitters but in fact, the US Public school system is the biggest day care operation in the world. I've held since 2016 that the only way Trump isn't reelected is if there is a major economic downturn in mid 2020.

Right on cue, CORONA VIRUS AHHHHHHHH!!!!@@@#@#$$ Close the schools, think of the children...

Look for the magicians other hand, not the one they want you to see...
 
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WVU is shutting down all campuses and transitioning to online.
My daughter graduates in a little over a month, she’s freaking out about maybe not having a graduation

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As we continue to monitor COVID-19, the WVU System will temporarily suspend face-to-face classes from March 23-27 as we transition to online and alternative class instruction, which will begin March 30 and will continue until further notice. This is a precautionary measure to protect our campus and community.

Read President Gee’s letter here: go.wvu.edu/coronavirus


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At the end of the day, this will all be forgotten by May, like it or not.


Oh, even I don't believe that. The flu goes on into the summer. This will too. We won't stop talking about this for a while.

That said, I hope you're right and I'm wrong.




 
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I think the number of reported cases is low by a factor of 5 and probably 10. Many cases present as just the flu or mild pneumonia. If you count that the mortality rate plummets. That doesn't feed the panic so...

The public school system is going to force the US in to a terrible depression. Teachers always say they aren't babysitters but in fact, the US Public school system is the biggest day care operation in the world. I've held since 2016 that the only way Trump isn't reelected is if there is a major economic downturn in mid 2020.

Right on cue, CORONA VIRUS AHHHHHHHH!!!!@@@#@#$$ Close the schools, think of the children...

Look for the magicians other hand, not the one they want you to see...


This guy gets it.




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My son is at the University of Maryland and they announced that they are transitioning to an online format after spring break, which is next week.

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I think the number of reported cases is low by a factor of 5 and probably 10. Many cases present as just the flu or mild pneumonia. If you count that the mortality rate plummets. That doesn't feed the panic so...

The public school system is going to force the US in to a terrible depression. Teachers always say they aren't babysitters but in fact, the US Public school system is the biggest day care operation in the world. I've held since 2016 that the only way Trump isn't reelected is if there is a major economic downturn in mid 2020.

Right on cue, CORONA VIRUS AHHHHHHHH!!!!@@@#@#$$ Close the schools, think of the children...

Look for the magicians other hand, not the one they want you to see...


This guy gets it.

Yessir indeed.
 
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Now if you could just transition the teachers and administrative staff to other occupations
 
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What date was the first case of this? Not the first diagnosed, or discovered, the first infection?


Who knows? it's inconsequential. The only thing that matters at this point is how we slow it to keep our medical system from being overwhelmed. What's your FD/EMS normal response time? If they are running extra calls or completely overwhelmed by COV19 calls what does that do for a gunshot victim or heart attack patient where minutes or even seconds might count?

What if you own a business that can't source materials and have to shutter your doors? What if you are an hourly worker like me and can't work from home? What if you were planning on retiring next year?

The financial effect from this is going to hurt a lot of people no matter if the death rate is smaller than the World Health Organization states.

I'm currently worried about my finances and the economy for now. If we are on the same trajectory as Italy, we are in bad shape in two weeks. Someone posted a video on exponential growth, I didn't watch it because I've taken math classes, so I'm familiar with the concept, but this is just the tip of the iceberg.


I would certainly start by not quoting made up statistics while admitting the actual numbers are “inconsequential”.

You are part of the problem. The virus has caused very little of what you say. The panic has done all the above.

The sooner people act responsible and stop spreading panic, the sooner this will dissipate into the truth that it is.


I'm missing the fake statistics in my quote? I don't see a single stat in there?



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Originally posted by jljones:
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What date was the first case of this? Not the first diagnosed, or discovered, the first infection?


Who knows? it's inconsequential. The only thing that matters at this point is how we slow it to keep our medical system from being overwhelmed. What's your FD/EMS normal response time? If they are running extra calls or completely overwhelmed by COV19 calls what does that do for a gunshot victim or heart attack patient where minutes or even seconds might count?

What if you own a business that can't source materials and have to shutter your doors? What if you are an hourly worker like me and can't work from home? What if you were planning on retiring next year?

The financial effect from this is going to hurt a lot of people no matter if the death rate is smaller than the World Health Organization states.

I'm currently worried about my finances and the economy for now. If we are on the same trajectory as Italy, we are in bad shape in two weeks. Someone posted a video on exponential growth, I didn't watch it because I've taken math classes, so I'm familiar with the concept, but this is just the tip of the iceberg.


I would certainly start by not quoting made up statistics while admitting the actual numbers are “inconsequential”.

You are part of the problem. The virus has caused very little of what you say. The panic has done all the above.

The sooner people act responsible and stop spreading panic, the sooner this will dissipate into the truth that it is.


I'm missing the fake statistics in my quote? I don't see a single stat in there?


Whatever dude. I think you’re 34 times more likely to engage in hysterics if you won’t own it.




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Whatever dude. I think you’re 34 times more likely to engage in hysterics if you won’t own it.


That is from WHO. They are way more sciencey than me. Maybe they have no clue what the heck they are talking about. I'm no doctor. Let's say they are off by a factor of ten, it's still three times as deadly as flu with no natural antibodies present and no vaccine.

You skipped over the post you replied to and referenced a prior post and Cherry picked part of one sentence. Care to address the quoted post?



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Skins I thought your wife got that huge raise awhile back, so you should be sitting pretty.

Self quarantine, drink beer, and chillllllllllloutttttt.....

The amount of freaking out over a cold is aaaaamaaazing.....
 
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