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What date was the first case of this? Not the first diagnosed, or discovered, the first infection?

Who knows? it's inconsequential. The only thing that matters at this point is how we slow it to keep our medical system from being overwhelmed. What's your FD/EMS normal response time? If they are running extra calls or completely overwhelmed by COV19 calls what does that do for a gunshot victim or heart attack patient where minutes or even seconds might count?

What if you own a business that can't source materials and have to shutter your doors? What if you are an hourly worker like me and can't work from home? What if you were planning on retiring next year?

The financial effect from this is going to hurt a lot of people no matter if the death rate is smaller than the World Health Organization states.

I'm currently worried about my finances and the economy for now. If we are on the same trajectory as Italy, we are in bad shape in two weeks. Someone posted a video on exponential growth, I didn't watch it because I've taken math classes, so I'm familiar with the concept, but this is just the tip of the iceberg.

I would certainly start by not quoting made up statistics while admitting the actual numbers are “inconsequential”.

You are part of the problem. The virus has caused very little of what you say. The panic has done all the above.

The sooner people act responsible and stop spreading panic, the sooner this will dissipate into the truth that it is.

I'm missing the fake statistics in my quote? I don't see a single stat in there?

Whatever dude. I think you’re 34 times more likely to engage in hysterics if you won’t own it.

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Whatever dude. I think you’re 34 times more likely to engage in hysterics if you won’t own it.

That is from WHO. They are way more sciencey than me. Maybe they have no clue what the heck they are talking about. I'm no doctor. Let's say they are off by a factor of ten, it's still three times as deadly as flu with no natural antibodies present and no vaccine.

You skipped over the post you replied to and referenced a prior post and Cherry picked part of one sentence. Care to address the quoted post?

Skins I thought your wife got that huge raise awhile back, so you should be sitting pretty.

Self quarantine, drink beer, and chillllllllllloutttttt.....

The amount of freaking out over a cold is aaaaamaaazing.....

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Now if you could just transition the teachers and administrative staff to other occupations

You mean actually work in a sustainable profitable profession? Good luck.

Veterans Administration suspends visitation to nursing homes, spinal cord centers amid spread of coronavirus

https://www.stripes.com/va-sus...coronavirus-1.621961

The Department of Veterans Affairs has banned virtually all visitors from its nursing homes and spinal cord injury centers to protect its most vulnerable patients as coronavirus cases increase across the country.

The VA announced all of its 134 nursing homes, which are home to more than 41,000 veterans, adopted a “no visitor” stance, meaning no outside visitors are permitted to see patients, according to the department. The only exception will be when veterans are in the last stages of life, at which time visitors will be limited to the patient’s room.

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
Skins I thought your wife got that huge raise awhile back, so you should be sitting pretty.

Self quarantine, drink beer, and chillllllllllloutttttt.....

The amount of freaking out over a cold is aaaaamaaazing.....

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That attitude would probably not go over well in Milan today. There are a number of members here who probably are in the upper end of the mortality demographic for Covid19, and don’t care for your cavalier attitude. In other words “grow the fuck up”.

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
Skins I thought your wife got that huge raise awhile back, so you should be sitting pretty.

Self quarantine, drink beer, and chillllllllllloutttttt.....

The amount of freaking out over a cold is aaaaamaaazing.....

Yes the new job means a little more security.

And yes, I have all the bases coved, if I'm stuck in the house for extended period of time.

The VA also just sent out an email which included instructions/ideas for preparations for troubles that may come in the event of a severe outbreak in addition to ways to mitigate your family’s chances of becoming infected. Personally I feel like this is so overblown, especially considering past impact of SARS and MERS.

Interesting developments. Its finally gotten to pay issues. All those leftist teachers and administrators will be fully compensated, of course. Brings me back to the spring of 1970 when the idiot shot MLK. Everyone was even sure the upcoming riots would destroy the city, or at least the university. Talk about party time. School's out! I didn't know what to do, I was getting married in a few months and sure as hell didn't want to move back in with my parents. It'll be fun to watch.

But times have changed. Back in the 'olden' days, we got summer jobs and worked our asses off. These days, the kids just take out another loan. They even go on spring break on borrowed money. Someone mentioned room and board, I don't remember how they handled that.

I don't think quarantine will work with college age 'kids'. They'll still congregate and drink beer. Lets call it party time. Of course this cycle the disease is killing old people, like me. So I really don't want them around me.

So now everyone nearly will be on vacation, just like us retired guys. Not fair, I worked 40 some odd years to earn this. OK, I'm still working, sort of. I feel sorry for you guys who need to meet others, face to face. Maybe this will teach others to cover their mouth and nose when they cough or sneeze.

Guess I need to upgrade the guns on this floor. 38s aren't enough, I need the shockwave and 45 on duty. I predict an increase in property crime this spring.

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The CDC posts recordings and transcripts of their daily briefings. Rather than rely on News outlets to bring you the information, here is your opportunity to listen and read information provided by the CDC:

Click on the Media Advisories tab in the middle of the website's (slow to load) page:
(www.CDC.Gov/media/releases/2020/archives.html)

Wednesday March 10 daily update on COVID-19
Audio MP3 file: <a href="https://www.CDC.Gov/media/releases/2020/t0309-COVID-19-Update.mp3%5B/URL%5D" target="_blank">https://www.CDC.Gov/media/rele...-19-Update.mp3</a>

Transcript:
Paul Fulton with CDC public affairs:
Thank you all for joining us today for this briefing to update you on CDC’s COVID-19 response.

We’re joined by Nancy Messonnier, director of CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. We’ll make opening remarks. I turn the call over to Dr. Messonnier.

Dr. Messonnier:
Good afternoon. Thank you all for joining us.

As of today, there are more than 110,000 cases of COVID-19 worldwide.

In the U.S., as of Sunday evening, 34 states plus New York City and D.C. have reported more than 500 cases of COVID-19 to CDC and 19 deaths. Nearly half of reported cases are in California and Washington. 18 of the deaths are in Washington. The remaining one is in California. Right now the states with the most cases are California and Washington. But other communities are also dealing with cases of COVID-19. That’s why I’d like to talk to you today in greater detail about risk.

Risk can be looked at in two ways. There is risk of being exposed and getting sick from this virus and there is risk of getting very sick or dying from illness with this virus.

This virus is capable of spreading easily and sustainably from person to person based on the available data. The report of the World Health Organization mission to China describes the virus as being highly contagious. And there’s essentially no immunity against this virus in the population because it’s a new virus. Based on this, it’s fair to say that as the trajectory of the outbreak continues, many people in the United States will at some point in time either this year or next be exposed to this virus and there’s a good chance many will become sick. But again, based on what we know about this virus, we do not expect most people to develop serious illness.

Reports out of China that looked at more than 70,000 COVID-19 patients found that about 80% of illness had — was mild and people recovered. 15 to 20% developed serious illness. Let’s talk about who those people are. So far it seems like it’s not children. Of the 70,000 cases, only about 2% were in people younger than 19. This seems to be a disease that affects adults. And most seriously older adults.

Starting at age 60, there is an increasing risk of disease and the risk increases with age. The highest risk of serious illness and death is in people older than 80 years.

People with serious underlying health conditions also are more likely to develop serious outcomes including death. The people who are at greatest risk are those older and who also have serious long-term health conditions like diabetes, heart disease, or lung disease.

Last week CDC added guidance to our website for people who are at higher risk for serious illness. Our goal is to protect you. This will require you and your family to take action.

I’d like to go through our recommendations for people at highest risk. Make sure you have supplies on hand like routine medications for blood pressure and diabetes. And over-the-counter medicines and medical supplies to treat fever and other symptoms. Have enough household items and groceries so that you will be prepared to stay home for a period of time.

Take everyday precautions like avoiding close contact with people who are sick, cleaning your hands often, and to the extent possible, avoid touching high touch surfaces in public places. Avoid crowds especially in poorly ventilated spaces.

This weekend the federal government made a very specific recommendation in this context that travelers particularly those with underlying health issues defer all cruise ship travel worldwide. We also recommend that people at higher risk avoid nonessential travel such as long plane trips.

Lastly, and most importantly, know what’s going on in your community. If you could end up in the role of helping to care for a family member or friend who is at greater risk, we recommend you familiarize yourself with your loved ones’ medication and help them get extra to have on hand. Help them also get food, medical supplies and other necessities so they can minimize trips to the store. Create a plan for if they get sick and if you get sick. You have to identify backups to take care of them. Everyone has a role to play to protect our family members, friends, colleagues, and neighbors who are at most risk. I understand these recommendations may not be popular and that maybe — and that they may be difficult for some people.

At CDC, our number one priority is the health and safety of the American people. These are the kind of recommendations that I have made to my parents and I’m taking the appropriate steps recommended for family members of vulnerable people. Other staff at CDC are doing the same. We have more than 1,500 people who have worked on this response so far. And we take the health and safety of our employees very seriously. CDC is an essential component of the U.S. critical infrastructure on this response.

To date no one in CDC’s workforce has tested positive for COVID-19. We will continue to work with the Office of Personal Management on federal government strategies and guidance. Some businesses and local governments are already taking similar measures. The point of these is to reduce exposures, reduce illness which in turn can protect our most vulnerable. But it’s also a strategy to keep workplaces up and running though on a modified basis.

Government officials and public health departments will make decisions based on local conditions at the time. We urge you to follow their lead.

Before I close, I want to give you an update on public lab capacity. 78 state and local public health labs across 50 states now have the capacity to test up to 75,000 people for COVID-19. We will have more information online this afternoon for clinicians on how to access the tests. The information will also be about the commercially available kits. However, we want to caution people that different states will have different capacity for testing as well as different policies about who should be tested.

Lastly, I want to recognize and share your concern about the outbreak and what might happen here in the United States. We’ve gotten a lot of questions about events and conferences where cases have been identified. CDC is working with state and local public health departments to reach these people but we also want those who attended these functions to monitor themselves for COVID-19 symptoms and call their health care provider if they become ill. Especially if they’re in a high risk group.

During an outbreak with the new virus, there is a lot of uncertainty. Our guidelines and recommendations are likely to be interim and subject to change as we learn more. We know that in South Korea no one under the age of 30 has died and in Japan no one under the age of 50 has died. Data from these countries help us understand the potential risk here in the U.S. That’s why it’s so important for older adults and people with serious underlying health conditions to be prepared.

I’ll be happy to take questions now.

Our first question is from Tom Howell with the Washington Times:
The first publicly documented case in mid-January is someone that traveled from China to Washington. I want to know what about is there anything about that fact that speaks to what we’re seeing now in Washington state? I’m just wondering if contact tracers investigated that and if there is any link to what we’re seeing now. Thank you.

Dr. Messonnier:
You may remember that the response to that initial case in the United States was quite aggressive with the health department having the lead in CDC supporting them. They did very aggressive contact tracing looking to identify anybody who had had contact with that initial case and sort of concentric circles outward. They didn’t find any evidence of COVID-19 in any of those contacts. Now I think you’re probably referring to a publication that came out within the past couple of weeks looking at the genetic sequencing data of the initial patient versus — and comparing it to the cases that are now circulating in Washington state. And one hypothesis that the author made was that the changes between the initial case and now suggested that the strain had been circulating in the population. I think that’s an interesting hypothesis. But another hypothesis is that a secondary seeding of the community and the strain causing the more recent cases in Washington state matches sequences that have been posted from China. So I think that’s an interesting hypothesis. I expect we’ll see more of it. But there are alternate explanations of the same findings.

Our next question comes from Issam Ahmed with AFP:
Yeah. Thank you for doing this. I was wondering with regards to your advice about, you know, higher risk Americans inviting them to stock up on groceries and medicine at this point. Where would you draw that cutoff at this point? Is that for over 60? Thank you.

Dr. Messonnier:
Thanks for letting me clarify. You know, I want to clarify the reason to stock up is that there is a rational for being in a higher risk group wanting to avoid congregate settings. So it’s not — the reason to stock up now is so you can stick close to home. The reason I went into data in greater detail is because it’s important for the American public to understand the risk. We use the broad categories of over 60 or over 65, but the data really says that as you get older, the risk goes up and so in the broader age category of over 60 or over 65, over 80 or older has the greatest risk. So I would recommend that people make their own decisions based on an understanding of that risk. My parents are in their 80s. They’re not in an area where there is currently community transmission. But I’ve asked them to stick close to home so they can avoid the potential risk of being in congregate settings.

Our next question comes from Eben Brown with FOX news:
Thank you very much for taking my call. I just want to piggyback on an earlier question. There is even just for my own personal goings about a lot of empty shelves in stores and things like that. There seems to be — I was in an airport the other day where someone had not just a regular old mask but like a big molded plastic mask with canisters on. There seems to be like a growing — I don’t want to say panic, but kind of headed that way. Is there a way that we all can provide some sobriety here because the last thing I think we all need is a panic but we want to be people vigilant and make the right decisions.

Dr. Messonnier:
I think that’s a really great point. And really important thing for the media to try to communicate. You know, right now in the United States most communities by far the vast majority of communities are not having community transmission.

This is a time for people to prepare for what they might need to do but not a time for people to clear out the shelves. And I really want to focus on the United States and the families at highest risk because in the setting where it’s really clear that it is older Americans who are at the highest risk right now, we want to make sure that they’re taking every precaution to prepare themselves so that if there is more widespread transmission, they can stick close to home.

In terms of masks, as you implied and I’ll say, we really do not think this is the time for Americans to be going out and getting masks. Masks are really important for those at highest risk in the health care setting and we want to make sure that we save enough masks for our health care workers on the front lines who will need to continue to be able to do their work and take care of all of us. So in particular in the setting of concern about masks, I ask people to please fight the urge to buy a mask and make sure we save them for the people that really need them.


Our next question comes from Andrew Joseph from STAT:
Hi. Thanks. Can you elaborate a little more on how you all see this potentially playing out? Obviously, there are mitigation efforts and hopefully they work. But you’re saying many people will get exposed this year or next. So if you can just sort of explain what that might look like if it is kind of persists for months to years.

Dr. Messonnier:
Yeah. I think that as we said since the beginning, respiratory viruses that’s spread like this tend to spread. And what we as a community need to do is do everything we can to protect ourselves and our families and our communities so that the — if it does spread, it is in a slower fashion so that we’re all better prepared and so that our health care sector can take care of patients.

We continue to believe that in most communities contact tracing is really appropriate because it identifies the contacts and keeping them from spreading can have a significant role in slowing this down. You likely will see in some communities like in Seattle and in California more efforts towards broad fed community mitigation as an attempt at a community level to slow this spread.

I think we need to be — we need to make sure that we’re listening to our local health departments. I also think people need to understand that there are personal responsibilities that we’re asking everyone in the United States to take to make sure that they’re doing their best to protect themselves and their families and their communities and right now especially to make really strong efforts to protect those who are older and at underlying risk. As a community, the United States we can really mitigate the impact of this disease and as long as we work together that, will continue to be CDC’s goal.

Our next question comes from Roni Rabin with the New York Times:
Hi. Dr. Messonnier, can you be more specific by with have a high rate of diabetes and chronic conditions in people that are much younger than 80s, can you be more specific about people in their 40s and 50s should be doing and people in their 60s and 70s?

Dr. Messonnier:
I think it’s really important for us to stress as we have I think throughout the course of this that we are making recommendations based on the available data and when more data becomes available fine tuning them and trying not to get beyond what we know.

What we know from the data is the highest risk is those in both older and with underlying health conditions. There are reports of individuals who are adults but with serious underlying health conditions who have also had more serious outcomes. And I think that if you’re in one of those groups separately or together that is underlying illness, underlying illness and older adult or underlying illness and younger, you need to be thinking towards what personal precautions you might want to take. And certainly for those with diabetes and high blood pressure, managing your diabetes and high blood pressure is a priority.

When more data becomes available from our investigations in the United States and from our work globally investigating we’ll certainly provide more direct data. But right now, there is not data to be as precise as we’re asking.

Our next question comes from Brenda Goodman from WebMD:
Hi, Dr. Messonnier, I was hoping that you could explain a little bit about the difference between containment and mitigation. And also tell us if there are any communities in the U.S. that have moved from containment to mitigation, for example, Seattle? And why.

Dr. Messonnier:
Sure. That’s a great question. I think it’s really important to make it really clear that this is not an on/off switch that you switch from one to the other.

In general, containment means that you stop the spread. What it has meant in this setting is decreasing the number of potentially exposed people coming into the United States through border control. And then tracking every case and every potential contact, every case in order to keep them from spreading it further.

So very much sort of what you would imagine when you think about person x had in contact with person y and person y had contact with six others and tracking down every one of those individuals and asking them to stay home, you can, we’ve seen you can keep it from spreading further.

Mitigation is more community level interventions. And what that means is that you’re working to decrease the impact of the disease on a community. In Seattle and in California, they haven’t stopped entirely contact tracing but they have started mitigation. And I think that you will likely see local health departments deciding when there is community spread to start turning on more of the mitigation measures even while they’re still doing some level of contact tracing.

So again, it’s not an on/off switch. It’s a dimmer. You will see I think lots more communities starting to implement some kind of mitigation measures when they’re seeing community spread. It will look different in different places and that’s why it’s really important for folks to stay informed of what is going on in their local area and to follow their advice of the local health department.

Our next question comes from Jose Paliey with Univision:
Hi, doctor. My question is New York City is an area with community transmission and earlier in the call you mentioned people should avoid crowds and poorly ventilated spaces. My question is what does that mean for subways and busses where commuters like myself are regularly pressing up against each other in very tighten closed spaces.

Dr. Messonnier:
Again, I think it’s really important for two different things. One is to pay attention to the recommendations from your local health department which are going to be more tailored to the specific situation in terms of spreading your community and the risks. In terms of avoiding crowded settings, our focus really is on those with the higher risk and oldest among us and especially those with underlying illnesses.

So for people again, older and underlying illnesses, we are recommending avoiding crowds, congregate settings because those are places where in general there is lots of transmission of respiratory diseases. We’re asking individuals to be aware of the risks but individuals are going to have to make personal decisions based on their own situations.

Our next question comes from John Tozzi with Bloomberg News:
Thank you for taking the question. I want to clarify. You said earlier that 78 state and local health labs have the capacity to test up to 75,000 people. Is that 75,000 in what period? Is that cumulative? Daily 75,000? Weekly?

Dr. Messonnier:
Cumulative. Again, it’s the public health sector CDC lab kits, 75,000 but more are coming onboard soon.

75,000 cumulatively. But, I think as you know the number of commercially available kits, the number of commercially available tests is much larger than that and our expectation within the next couple weeks is more and more commercial entities become – come onboard is the majority of the available testing will actually be from the commercial sector.

Our last question comes from Brianna Abbott with The Wall Street Journal:
Hi. Thanks for taking my question. As you mentioned, there have been cases that are now starting to be linked to conferences and mass gatherings. Companies have taken steps to cancel these. I wonder from a public health perspective, is cancelling mass gatherings something we should broadly start doing or is that an overreaction? Where do we stand on that?

Dr. Messonnier:
It is really difficult to make those kind of pronouncements broadly.

I think the thing at this point we’re recommending is consideration of the local situation, consideration of what is going on in the locale where the event is being held. But and also where people are coming from and what the event is and how big it is.

So the decisions, for example, in Seattle may look quite different than the decisions being made in a location right now where there is not community spread. I think that we’re going to need to follow the local community’s lead. And again, a lot depends on the population.

So we’re looking both at risk of exposure but also the risk to the individuals and as you look at those two factors together, in consultation with local and state health departments, decisions may be different in different events and different locations.

Thank you, Dr. Messonnier and thank you all for joining us for today’s briefing.

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The Chernobyl disaster was much more frightening. Glad we did not have social media back then.

Come on now... Hysteria aside, lives could have been saved and fewer people affected by the radiation had there been Social Media when Chernobyl occurred. I, too, find the 24/7 connected world annoying but it is vastly better to be connected than not when it comes to information dissemination.

Rburg, you my man have a gift with words. I read the above post of yours to my wife, we are still laughing. Thanks MWG

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
Skins I thought your wife got that huge raise awhile back, so you should be sitting pretty.

Self quarantine, drink beer, and chillllllllllloutttttt.....

The amount of freaking out over a cold is aaaaamaaazing.....

Yes the new job means a little more security.

And yes, I have all the bases coved, if I'm stuck in the house for extended period of time.

Looks like Day One of a Hurricane Party! As someone of the right age and who has a medical condition to be possibly killed by this ....or the flue....or any other manner of illnesses. I think it's all just a bunch of Bs. Wash your hands and try not to be stressed people.We don't live in a third world country. There are so many ways to die, don't be so worried about which way it will come. Do your part to prevent what you can "reasonably" and try not to panic. Ain't none of us getting off this third rock from the sun alive after all.

So, the CDC recommends:

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Starting at age 60, there is an increasing risk of disease and the risk increases with age. The highest risk of serious illness and death is in people older than 80 years.

People with serious underlying health conditions also are more likely to develop serious outcomes including death. The people who are at greatest risk are those older and who also have serious long-term health conditions like diabetes, heart disease, or lung disease.

Last week CDC added guidance to our website for people who are at higher risk for serious illness. Our goal is to protect you. This will require you and your family to take action.

I’d like to go through our recommendations for people at highest risk. Make sure you have supplies on hand like routine medications for blood pressure and diabetes. And over-the-counter medicines and medical supplies to treat fever and other symptoms. Have enough household items and groceries so that you will be prepared to stay home for a period of time.

Take everyday precautions like avoiding close contact with people who are sick, cleaning your hands often, and to the extent possible, avoid touching high touch surfaces in public places. Avoid crowds especially in poorly ventilated spaces.

This weekend the federal government made a very specific recommendation in this context that travelers particularly those with underlying health issues defer all cruise ship travel worldwide. We also recommend that people at higher risk avoid nonessential travel such as long plane trips.

My wife and I are in our late 60's. She has asthma, a poor immune system, and is allergic to many medications--incl. most antibiotics. I may have mild COPD. I was just diagnosed with mild coronary disease and high blood sugar (though not quite diabetes).

Since we are both in the at-risk group, we're taking the CDC's recommendations.

We've already been extra conscientious about hand-washing, etc. We normally are, this time of year, anyway, because flu season. We've simply upped the Defcon level a notch.

The first confirmed cases were just announced today in Michigan. That was my cue: My last workouts at my gym will be tomorrow and Thursday. From then on, until this has passed, I'll work out at home. We will be skipping a large party we were to attend this coming weekend.

If some of y'all want to call that hysteria and panicking: Feel free. I'm thinking better safe than sorry.

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If some of y'all want to call that hysteria and panicking: Feel free. I'm thinking better safe than sorry.

I try to consider both the likelihood and the severity of an event, then weigh that against the cost of potential avoidance measures. It sounds like you may have potential for serious issues if you have community spread in your area. If there is no community spread in your area, your precautions may not be needed. However, they don’t sound like an onerous burden. Finally, I ask myself, “What if I’m wrong?” If you are wrong that it is an issue in your area, it doesn’t sound like it is a huge problem if you are more careful than you needed to be. If you assume there is no risk and drive on with business as usual and you turn out to be wrong about that, that could be a much bigger issue.

I truly think that a lot of folks are panicking ridiculously out of proportion to the potential threat. It doesn’t sound to me like you fall into that category.

Good luck, may you and yours stay healthy and have fun!

Babylon Bee [SATIRE Boss]: Homeschoolers to continue quarantining themselves from everything like always

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U.S.—The nation's homeschoolers announced their plan to continue quarantining themselves from Coronavirus, social interactions, pop culture, and everything else Tuesday morning.

While the rest of the nation scrambled to quarantine themselves from the spread of the virus, homeschoolers were already prepared, having previously walled themselves off from the world.

"A quarantine? No problem," said Jen Poulson, homeschooling mother from western Pennsylvania. "We're on it."

Homeschoolers stockpiled things like young earth science textbooks, Greek workbooks, classic movies and classical works of literature, and Bibles. They also rushed local stores to buy a bunch of toilet paper, but just so they could use the cardboard rolls for crafts.

Most homeschool kids are now currently quarantined but not much has changed, and the majority remain unaware that Coronavirus is a threat or that there is a cartoon television show called The Simpsons.

Ensigmatic, sounds prudent to me. I'm almost 60. It worries me a bit but I have to keep on keeping on...

My wife concerns me more. She takes a daily chemo drug that really depresses her immune system. And... she's a teacher. Works in germ central.

We started paying close attention to our supplement routine 4-5 weeks back and upped it where appropriate.

Good luck

A point to ponder, three weeks ago Italy had 3 diagnosed cases of COVID 19 . Today 60 million people are under quarantine in Italy.

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A point to ponder, three weeks ago Italy had 3 diagnosed cases of COVID 19 . Today 60 million people are under quarantine in Italy.

That would certainly be disruptive.

Since we're pondering big numbers:

We currently stand at about 1,000 US cases. It will certainly grow. OTOH: It has to grow to over 3 MILLION cases for you to have a 1% chance of being included. That still doesn't mean you're going to die if you're among them.

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Ensigmatic, sounds prudent to me. I'm almost 60. It worries me a bit but I have to keep on keeping on...

My wife concerns me more. She takes a daily chemo drug that really depresses her immune system. And... she's a teacher. Works in germ central....

I agree Ensigmatic seems to be making some good short-term decisions until this plays out. Being in a higher risk category. Of course (sorry in advance) I assume they've also gotten their flu shots.

I stopped my biologics that suppress my immune system. I have R.A., but I'll take my chances with a flair for a month or three and see where we are. I work in a hospital, so there are germs. I'd guess less than a grade school though!