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Originally posted by Shaql:
Has anyone noticed or noted that the John's Hopkins tracking site is no longer tracking data by city, but it's now by state?

Much more useful to know where vs total per state. Quite annoying.

Back on page 56 kkina posted this:

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Here's a handy COVID-19 TRACKER. I just discovered there's a presumptive positive case in my county.

The Johns Hopkins format is a one page thing and the change makes sense there in that format. With kkina’s tracker, if you click on the state it breaks it down in finer detail by county.

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Thanks!

Great, three in my county, three in neighboring county.

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All of this panic is just ridiculous and being fueled by the lame media using it for ratings and to help the leftists moon bats criticize Trump. Meanwhile...where has the hysteria been after tens of thousands have died in the US alone from the flu every year?

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We may have a better picture 2 weeks after spring break

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Has anyone noticed or noted that the John's Hopkins tracking site is no longer tracking data by city, but it's now by state?

Much more useful to know where vs total per state. Quite annoying.

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Originally posted by tleo205:
All of this panic is just ridiculous and being fueled by the lame media using it for ratings and to help the leftists moon bats criticize Trump. Meanwhile...where has the hysteria been after tens of thousands have died in the US alone from the flu every year?

You do realize that we aren't substuting flu for COV19 right? The people dying are additional to those deaths, they are dying from something that didn't exist five months ago and are dying at 34 times the rate of death for flu. So concern is warranted, feel free to ignore it if you want. You can sit there and not worry about supply chain disruptions or what this is doing to your income or 401k, that's your choice. Guess Italy is overreacting too.

I sincerely hope you are right. I'm already having to change my short term plans due to loss of income. So while not paniced yet, I am concerned.

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Originally posted by tleo205:
All of this panic is just ridiculous and being fueled by the lame media using it for ratings and to help the leftists moon bats criticize Trump. Meanwhile...where has the hysteria been after tens of thousands have died in the US alone from the flu every year?

You do realize that we aren't substuting flu for COV19 right? The people dying are additional to those deaths, they are dying from something that didn't exist five months ago and are dying at 34 times the rate of death for flu. So concern is warranted, feel free to ignore it if you want. You can sit there and not worry about supply chain disruptions or what this is doing to your income or 401k, that's your choice. Guess Italy is overreacting too.

I sincerely hope you are right. I'm already having to change my short term plans due to loss of income. So while not paniced yet, I am concerned.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:

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Originally posted by tleo205:
All of this panic is just ridiculous and being fueled by the lame media using it for ratings and to help the leftists moon bats criticize Trump. Meanwhile...where has the hysteria been after tens of thousands have died in the US alone from the flu every year?

You do realize that we aren't substuting flu for COV19 right? The people dying are additional to those deaths, they are dying from something that didn't exist five months ago and are dying at 34 times the rate of death for flu. So concern is warranted, feel free to ignore it if you want. You can sit there and not worry about supply chain disruptions or what this is doing to your income or 401k, that's your choice. Guess Italy is overreacting too.

I sincerely hope you are right. I'm already having to change my short term plans due to loss of income. So while not paniced yet, I am concerned.

The 3.4% mortality rate is most likely a significant overestimate.

The biggest concern right now is the exponential rate at which diseases can spread (and at which this one has spread so far), which COULD result in a noticeable percentage of the population of the United States being infected within the next 4-6 weeks, completely overwhelming our healthcare system.

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You do realize that we aren't substuting flu for COV19 right?

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What date was the first case of this? Not the first diagnosed, or discovered, the first infection?

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Emails from son's colleges today- Bucknell and Cornell are closing after spring break...students must bugout....continue classes remote via internet likely for rest of semester. I want room & board refunds!

Mind you not a case anywhere near fumbuck PA or NY.

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Iranian leaders once predicted the coronavirus epidemic ravaging China would not affect their country. Now Iran has among the most coronavirus deaths outside China, and Iranian medical workers have been told to keep quiet.

Nearly three dozen Iranian government officials and members of parliament are infected and a senior adviser to the supreme leader has died.

The Health Ministry has proposed sending 300,000 militia members door-to-door on a desperate mission to sanitize homes. The top prosecutor has warned that anyone hoarding face masks and other public health equipment risks the death penalty.

Iran’s leaders confidently predicted just two weeks ago that the coronavirus contagion ravaging China would not be a problem in their country. They even bragged of exporting face masks to their Chinese trading partners.

Now Iran is battered by coronavirus infections that have killed 77 people, among the most outside of China, officials said Tuesday. But instead of receiving government help, overwhelmed doctors and nurses say they have been warned by security forces to keep quiet. And some officials say Tehran’s hierarchy is understating the true extent of the outbreak — probably, experts contend, because it will be viewed as a failure that enemies will exploit.
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“They are lurching from crisis to crisis and trying to Band-Aid each crisis,” said Sanam Vakil, a researcher on Iran at Chatham House, a London-based research institute. “They underestimated the potential effect of the coronavirus.”

Iranian health officials initially boasted of their public health prowess. They ridiculed quarantines as “archaic” and portrayed Iran as a global role model. President Hassan Rouhani suggested a week ago that by this past Saturday life would have returned to normal.

Instead, Iran on Tuesday acknowledged as many as 77 deaths from the virus and at least 2,300 cases of infection. But medical experts say the 77 deaths suggested that, based on the expected death rate, about 4,000 people are presumably infected.

The authorities also said Tuesday that they had temporarily freed 54,000 prisoners considered symptom-free, apparently in hopes of minimizing contagion in Iran’s crowded penitentiaries. But it was unclear from the announcement how many prisoners had actually been tested, given the severe shortages of testing kits in the country.

Because of those shortages, the reality is that no one can guess how far the coronavirus has spread in Iran. One Canadian study projected a week ago that the true total of infections may have been more than 18,000, “and a week ago is eons when we are talking about an epidemic,” said Isaac Bogoch, a Toronto doctor who was one of the authors.

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What date was the first case of this? Not the first diagnosed, or discovered, the first infection?

Who knows? it's inconsequential. The only thing that matters at this point is how we slow it to keep our medical system from being overwhelmed. What's your FD/EMS normal response time? If they are running extra calls or completely overwhelmed by COV19 calls what does that do for a gunshot victim or heart attack patient where minutes or even seconds might count?

What if you own a business that can't source materials and have to shutter your doors? What if you are an hourly worker like me and can't work from home? What if you were planning on retiring next year?

The financial effect from this is going to hurt a lot of people no matter if the death rate is smaller than the World Health Organization states.

I'm currently worried about my finances and the economy for now. If we are on the same trajectory as Italy, we are in bad shape in two weeks. Someone posted a video on exponential growth, I didn't watch it because I've taken math classes, so I'm familiar with the concept, but this is just the tip of the iceberg.

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What date was the first case of this? Not the first diagnosed, or discovered, the first infection?

Who knows? it's inconsequential. The only thing that matters at this point is how we slow it to keep our medical system from being overwhelmed. What's your FD/EMS normal response time? If they are running extra calls or completely overwhelmed by COV19 calls what does that do for a gunshot victim or heart attack patient where minutes or even seconds might count?

What if you own a business that can't source materials and have to shutter your doors? What if you are an hourly worker like me and can't work from home? What if you were planning on retiring next year?

The financial effect from this is going to hurt a lot of people no matter if the death rate is smaller than the World Health Organization states.

I'm currently worried about my finances and the economy for now. If we are on the same trajectory as Italy, we are in bad shape in two weeks. Someone posted a video on exponential growth, I didn't watch it because I've taken math classes, so I'm familiar with the concept, but this is just the tip of the iceberg.

I would certainly start by not quoting made up statistics while admitting the actual numbers are “inconsequential”.

You are part of the problem. The virus has caused very little of what you say. The panic has done all the above.

The sooner people act responsible and stop spreading panic, the sooner this will dissipate into the truth that it is.