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I can see that not going real well.
Well, here's the thing- if the manager of an establishment says you are trespassing and tells you that you must leave the premises, and you don't do so, the police will show up and tell you to leave the premises. If you do not leave at that point, you will be arrested for trespassing and, depending upon how much of a stink you make, possibly arrested for disturbing the peace.

An individual cannot win under such circumstances. If you go at them en masse, the police will be called and you may face arrest for rioting. The propietor can just close up shop for the day, and re-open the next day. I don't see a way to fight this, short of, well, fighting.
 
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The average time for a drugs approval through the FDA is 12 years. Nobody in my family is getting this poison.




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I can see that not going real well.
Well, here's the thing- if the manager of an establishment says you are trespassing and tells you that you must leave the premises, and you don't do so, the police will show up and tell you to leave the premises. If you do not leave at that point, you will be arrested for trespassing and, depending upon how much of a stink you make, possible arrested for disturbing the peace.

An individual cannot win under such circumstances. If you go at them en masse, the police will be called and you may face arrest for rioting. The propietor can just close up shop for the day, and re-open the next day. I don't see a way to fight this, short of, well, fighting.


You're absolutely right Para.
My thinking and question is will it come to that?
There's a large portion of the US population that doesn't want to get the vaccine. Their reasons are their own with some conspiracy theories thrown in.
What happens when they can't go to their favorite restaurants? Favorite bars? Coffee places, etc.
Inkarceration Fest in Mansfield, Ohio coming up is asking for a vaccine passport or a very recent negative Covid test. I was going to go but have not got the shot and I've never been tested.
I can see fights or more coming. Seeing them now with the mask/vaccine mandates at some schools. Parents fighting with others.


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Well the good news is unlike Australia we don't have to put stars of David on our houses yet. Probably coming in the next week or two though.



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The average time for a drugs approval through the FDA is 12 years. Nobody in my family is getting this poison.


Good article here (from The History of Vaccines .org) -

Vaccine Development, Testing, and Regulation

“Vaccine development is a long, complex process, often lasting 10-15 years and involving a combination of public and private involvement.”

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The average time for a drugs approval through the FDA is 12 years. Nobody in my family is getting this poison.


Lord, I mean Dr. Fauci was asked about this a while ago. He was asked how long does a normal vaccine trial last before it's FDA approved.
IIRC, he said like 7 years or so but even 12 is realistic given what side effects can happen and how effective it is.
Personally, I'd just like more data for a longer amount of time, not that I'd get that kind of truthful information anyways.


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The funny thing is Dr Fauxi was being intentionally disingenuous when he answered this question; it 7 years for physical devices. For drugs, it’s @12. These people are openly lying in everyone’s faces.




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To play devils advocate if I was aware of the time frame of vaccine approval time frames and unleashed a bio weapon on the world would I not be at an advantage when it comes to killing you if I know such timeframes?


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Bio weapon yes, but more just a money making scheme.




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From May 2017:

One-Third Of New Drugs Had Safety Problems After FDA Approval

It took a median of 4.2 years after the drugs were approved for these safety concerns to come to light, the study found, and issues were more common among psychiatric drugs, biologic drugs, drugs that were granted "accelerated approval" and drugs that were approved near the regulatory deadline for approval.

https://www.npr.org/sections/h...s-after-fda-approval
 
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Good article here (from The History of Vaccines .org) -

Vaccine Development, Testing, and Regulation

“Vaccine development is a long, complex process, often lasting 10-15 years and involving a combination of public and private involvement.”


That link is jacked. Try this.

https://www.historyofvaccines....sting-and-regulation


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Dr. Mercola and Dr. Bhakdi have an interview he posted yesterday that ought to provide sufficient explanation why NO ONE who hasn’t yet gotten jabbed yet should EVER relent and get it.

The video will only be up until tomorrow (Mercola deletes every post after 48 hours) .

https://articles.mercola.com/s...vid-jab-effects.aspx

Here is a link to a chapter in Dr Bhakdi’s book, Corona Unmasked” which is in German, but this chapter was translated into English for our welfare and benefit:
https://www.goldegg-verlag.com...d_engl_leseprobe.pdf

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That’s a pretty big body count for a money making scheme bio weapon. Some might argue it was the perfect bio weapon. Deadly and scary but not too deadly as to arise and cause any retribution, at least not yet....


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Yes Chellim, I figured they would yank the Ivermectin off the shelves eventually. As mentioned in a previous posting, the Ivermectin I bought at Tractor Supply last year said "pharmaceutical grade" on it and the 2021 packaging changed to say "for animal use only". My neighbor is a Vet here locally and she said its the same exact stuff a physician would presrcibe via pill form. The danger, she said, was that most people have no clue how to administer dosages via the metric system. She went on to explain the massive difference between MG (milligrams) and ML (milliliters). The MG dose would be literally 3-5 drops daily for a 160lb person (which is the correct dose) The ML would be exponential and probably land someone in the ER. (which has happened recently throughout the US)




Here you go. You can now calculate for 125 and 250 pound **horses**. God Bless !!!



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I have the liquid form. But the paste works too. Thanks for posting.
 
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I have the liquid form. But the paste works too. Thanks for posting.



You mentioned you purchased yours at Tractor Supply, can you tell us how much each ?? Thank you and God Bless Smile


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Shit, it's only a matter of time for my employer now I guess, given that I just found this out today:

Rocket builder ULA will require employees receive Covid vaccines beginning Sept. 1

September 1? that's like a little over a week from now, way to force people to make a decision with no time. Mad

I need to started researching religious exemptions because I'll be dammed if I'm putting the clot shot into my body.

I guess I’m probably a short timer as well. Frown
 
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I have the liquid form. But the paste works too. Thanks for posting.



You mentioned you purchased yours at Tractor Supply, can you tell us how much each ?? Thank you and God Bless Smile


I bought 1 liter for $21.95 in October of 2020. The price spiked to $43.95 this summer, and now, according to a previous poster, Tractor Supply no longer has it in stock. Not sure if this is their decision, demand, or political pressure to yank it off the shelves. At the end of the day Farmers still needs this stuff for parasitical treatments.
 
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From May 2017:

One-Third Of New Drugs Had Safety Problems After FDA Approval

It took a median of 4.2 years after the drugs were approved for these safety concerns to come to light, the study found, and issues were more common among psychiatric drugs, biologic drugs, drugs that were granted "accelerated approval" and drugs that were approved near the regulatory deadline for approval.

https://www.npr.org/sections/h...s-after-fda-approval


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I may be wrong and if so I hope one of you will prove me incorrect but I believe the FDA has never approved any tattoo ink for injection into human beings and yet it seems to be all the rage these days with the hipsters and wannabe sailors.

Is this true?


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