You be the judge.
Did Anthony Fauci’s NIH Fund Gain-of-Function research?
Did Anthony Fauci commit a crime lying before Congress?

I take him at is word.
He supported Gain-of-Function research.
He Lifted halt to Funding Pause on Gain-of-Function research.
My verdict is liar, liar, pants on fire.

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Originally posted by kimber1911:
You be the judge.
Did Anthony Fauci’s NIH Fund Gain-of-Function research?
Did Anthony Fauci commit a crime lying before Congress?

I take him at is word.
He supported Gain-of-Function research.
He Lifted halt to Funding Pause on Gain-of-Function research.
My verdict is liar, liar, pants on fire.

Link

Fauci lied again and needs to be prosecuted but seems to be protected. God Bless

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Originally posted by marksman41:

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Originally posted by mutedblade:
My aunt's neighbors had twin 19 year old daughters take the vaccine. One got horribly sick, the other died later that night.

That is one of most heartbreaking incidents I've heard. Parents outliving their children is bad enough, but it is even worse when a child is so young as to not even had a chance to really live life.

It really is. I'm not sure of the circumstances on why the twins got the vaccine but the 2 colleges that my daughter is attending is requiring the jab or a waiver with weekly testing and a daily health journal. Being that my daughter is 20, she can make her own mind up but I gave her every bit of data that I could find. There's just no way of knowing how any of this is gonna pan out without proper long term testing and I told her not to be a guinea pig. As of now, she hasn't and doesn't plan on getting any of the jabs.

I would put a serious hurt on those that have come up with this "mandatory" jab nonsense if my child died because of their idiotic notion of safety. I can't imagine the pain my aunt's neighbors are feeling.

There is a joint announcement coming out later today from 4 major healthcare systems in NC that they are now going to require that all employees be vaccinated. Failure to do so will result in mandatory leave of absence until they are vaccinated - continued failure to do so will result in termination.

While there will be a few exemptions based on health or religious grounds, I suspect that there will be more turnover than they anticipate which will only make it harder to provide care for patients in need.

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While there will be a few exemptions based on health or religious grounds, I suspect that there will be more turnover than they anticipate which will only make it harder to provide care for patients in need.

The devil is always in the details...
The question is how difficult will they make it to get a waiver. If you simply state your objection and they give a waiver, no problem but they could make it nearly impossible, in which case lots of people will leave and/or sue.

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Originally posted by mutedblade:

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Originally posted by cas:
How would anyone know FOR SURE that someone died from the vaccine?

My aunt's neighbors had twin 19 year old daughters take the vaccine. One got horribly sick, the other died later that night. Not sure which jab but neither had previous health issues and none of the docs wanna discuss WHY or HOW that could happen

Probably, ya know, coincidental. Just like it was probably coincidental that one of my best friends, his wife, and a best friend of my wife's in another country all got mysteriously sick for reasons none of their doctors could explain, with identical symptoms, shortly after their vaccines. My best friend had to be hospitalized twice because "it," whatever it was, morphed into pneumonia.

In Yet Another Wu Flu thread somebody started here, a poster noted "It is kind of depressing that otherwise reasonably intelligent folks have bought the whole scamdemic hook, line, and sinker." Well, when the dominant "news" media, both national and local, are incessantly yammering the party line nearly every minute of every day and night, and studiously avoiding mentioning anything about the negative consequences of experimental vaccines--other than references to alleged "misinformation," what do you expect?

House Democrats Block COVID Origins declassification Bill

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...eclassification-bill

House Democrats on Tuesday blocked a GOP bill which would require the Director of National Intelligence to declassify information related to the US government's investigations into the Wuhan coronavirus pandemic - and in particular, what role the Wuhan Institute of Virology may have played in the outbreak.

The COVID-19 Origin Act was introduced in the Senate by Josh Hawley (R-MO) and Mike Braun (R-IN), and was passed unanimously in May, according to Townhall. Then, it was brought to the House floor by Rep. Michael Burgess (R-TX) along with Reps. Brad Wenstrup (R-OH) and Darin LaHood (R-IL).

"The best disinfectant is sunlight and that's what we can provide today," said Wenstrup. "The bill first establishes that we must identify the precise origins of COVID-19 because it is critical for preventing a similar pandemic in the future."

"I cannot stress enough that this bill is not controversial by any means," he continued. "In fact, it passed the Senate in May with unanimous consent — not one senator objected. Not Senators Ted Cruz or Rand Paul, not Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren. If those four members can get on board with this bill, should not we be able to do the same?"

Rep. LaHood further explained the legislation's purpose, saying it "would require the Biden administration Director of National Intelligence to declassify intelligence information related to any potential links between the Wuhan Institute of Virology — also known as the Wuhan lab — and the origins of COVID-19 in order to better prepare and avoid future pandemics."

"The bottom line is Americans deserve a full accounting of the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic," he added. -Townhall

In April, Hawley noted that "for over a year, anyone asking questions about the Wuhan Institute if Virology has been branded as a conspiracy theorist," adding "the world needs to know if this pandemic was the product of negligence at the Wuhan lab but the [Chinese Communist Party] has done everything it can to block a credible investigation. That's why the Biden administration must declassify what it knows about the Wuhan lab and Beijing's attempts to cover up the origin of the pandemic."

As The Federalist notes, "House Democrats’ vote against transparency comes just days after the World Health Organization urged China to cooperate with their second inquiry into the virus’s origins, citing previous difficulty working with the communist regime when China refused to share raw patient data with the WHO during the first round of investigations.

Look at their faces, they are just seething with rage inside that someone dares question their Great God Fauci

https://twitter.com/ChrisStiga...247647144685571?s=20

I don't understand the vaccine and masks. The wrong people are being made to wear them.

If you've been vaccinated, you should have to wear a mask. You could have the cooties all over you and spread em to everyone you encounter, you'd never know.

If you aren't vaccinated and you get it, you may at least know it and stay your ass home.

Make all them vaccinated typhoid Mary's wear a mask!

"If your shot works, why do I need one?"

"If your shot doesn’t work, why do I need one?"

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
In Yet Another Wu Flu thread somebody started here, a poster noted "It is kind of depressing that otherwise reasonably intelligent folks have bought the whole scamdemic hook, line, and sinker." Well, when the dominant "news" media, both national and local, are incessantly yammering the party line nearly every minute of every day and night, and studiously avoiding mentioning anything about the negative consequences of experimental vaccines--other than references to alleged "misinformation," what do you expect?

I guess I expect those reasonably intelligent folks to use critical thinking and actually question the pablum they are being spoonfed. I’m saddened that this is apparently an unreasonable expectation. Sigh…

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Originally posted by mbinky:
"If your shot works, why do I need one?"

"If your shot doesn’t work, why do I need one?"

More succinct and more polite, but right along the lines of the query that nobody’s been able to answer for me. Mind if I steal?

Horowitz: Data from India continues to blow up the ‘Delta’ fear narrative

The prevailing narrative from Fauci, Walensky, and company is that Delta is more serious than anything before, and even though vaccines are even less effective against it, its spread proves the need to vaccinate even more people. Unless we do that, we must return to the very effective lockdowns and masks. In reality, India's experience proves the opposite true; namely:

Delta is largely an attenuated version, with a much lower fatality rate, that for most people is akin to a cold.
Masks failed to stop the spread there.
The country has come close to the herd immunity threshold with just 3% vaccinated.
Most people are now getting cold-like symptoms from Delta, but to the extent countries hit by Delta suffered some deaths and serious illness, they could have been avoided not with vaccines and masks, but with early and preventive treatment like ivermectin.

In other words, our government is learning all the wrong lessons from India, and now Israel and the U.K. Let's unpack what we know occurred in India and now in some of the other countries experiencing a surge in cases of the Indian "Delta" variant.

The Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) recently conducted a fourth nationwide serological test and found that 67.6% of those over 6 years old in June and July had antibodies, including 85% of health care workers. This is a sharp increase from the 24.1% level detected during the December-January study. What we can conclude definitively is that strict mask-wearing (especially among health care workers) failed to stop the spread one bit. Yet now they have achieved herd immunity and burned out the virus with just 3% vaccination (now up to 6%) with roughly one-sixth the death rate of the U.S. and the U.K. and less than one-half that of Israel.

Immediately, naysayers will suggest that somehow India is vastly undercounting the deaths because it is a shabby third-world country. However, if we are to suggest that, it would mean that so much of the data from so many other countries we use for studies must be ignored. Also, it's true that India is poor in some areas, but it is highly developed and has a very strong bureaucracy and administrative state throughout. There might be undercounting, but the notion that it can account for that wide a gap between India and the U.S./U.K. was always unlikely.

However, now that the Delta has spread to other countries like Israel and the U.K., we need not speculate who is right about India's death rate. The fact that Israel and the U.K. have so many Delta cases yet so few deaths relative to the winter spread of the original strain demonstrates that Delta is likely much weaker and India's numbers are probably close to accurate. Remember, most of India's spread, unlike in the West, occurred with Delta, long after the ancestral strain that hit the West was gone. If it really was the bloodbath some are suggesting (a tenfold undercount of deaths, in their estimation), why is the data from the U.K. showing just the opposite?

The latest data from the U.K. show that the case fatality rate for the Delta is just 0.2%, much less than the others. And we need not speculate with generalized studies. The raw data shows that since May 1, there have been approximately 1,300 deaths in the U.K. out of roughly 1.1 million confirmed cases. But those are confirmed cases. The likely infection fatality rate is much lower because now more than ever, people are avoiding testing, and the U.K. media has been reporting for weeks that the symptoms of the Delta for most people appear more like a cold.

The Guardian reports that based on data from the app-based Zoe COVID symptom study, the symptoms being reported are mainly headaches and runny nose. "People might think they've just got some sort of seasonal cold, and they still go out to parties … we think this is fueling a lot of the problem," said Tim Spector, a professor of genetic epidemiology at King's College London, who is leading the work on the reporting app.

The U.K. media are trying to panic people about spreading a cold, but in fact, they are reporting good news! This virus has attenuated for most people to the point that they can't even distinguish it from a cold, much less a flu. Thus, the fact that India achieved most of its immunity throughout the spread of the Delta variant actually lends a lot of credence to the fatality rate of one-sixth of that of the U.S. and the U.K., which experienced most of its deaths from the ancestral strain.

If you look at any chart from Scotland, which is now mainly over the curve, there is a complete decoupling of deaths from cases.

The same thing is being observed in Israel, which is slightly behind the curve. The country has had just 20 deaths so far in July, but again, 15 of them were of vaccinated individuals.

However, to the extent that there are cases, and the relatively rare serious cases, the vaccines have proven to be a bust in preventing them. The Western countries are relying on an exponentially higher vaccination rate than India with a much lower seroprevalence rate from infection. It's simply not working. According to Israel's Ministry of Health, the Pfizer vaccine efficacy against infection dropped 42% since the start of the inoculation drive in Israel, and efficacy against severe illness has dropped 60% among those vaccinated early on. Ditto for the United Kingdom.

In fact, in Israel, the case rates track almost perfectly with the percentage of those vaccinated stratified by age range.

Thus, the experience from India and the Delta variant teaches us the exact opposite of what the panic-mongers are pushing. Natural immunity, not vaccination, is king. Which explains the dichotomy between India and countries like Gibraltar. In Gibraltar, nearly every adult in the tiny country has been vaccinated, yet it has the third-highest per capita rate of infection in the world.

https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed...delta-fear-narrative

I call bullshit on this woman who doesn’t even appear to be on the regular staff of the hospital she claims to work at.

Alabama’s Covid death numbers also don’t jibe with what she’s claiming, that young people are dying right and left there of the Wuhan Flu.

Are we still intubating and putting people on ventilators? I thought that was largely abandoned as not effective and even deadly for severe Covid patients?

When you’re at the point of needing intubation, you’re still lucid and able to speak like that?

Nope, you’re full of shit lady and it’s going to come out soon enough you’re a fraud:

“One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.”

Israel Finds Pfizer Jab Only 39% Effective At Stopping Delta Variant

https://www.zerohedge.com/covi...opping-delta-variant

Over the past month, Israel, the world's most heavily vaccinated country (with leading mRNA jabs, no less) has seen the number of positive COVID tests has risen by more than 30x as the number of active infections in the country has surpassed 10K.

Meanwhile, the Israeli Health Ministry, which has previously estimated the true efficacy of the Pfizer jab against the delta variant at only 64% (while still more than 90% effective at preventing serious illness and death), just released new data purporting to show that while the Pfizer jab is still 88% effective at preventing serious illness, it's only 39% effective at preventing infection with delta.

Alex Berenson, a former NYT journalist who has often reported on scientific findings that don't support the official narrative on masks and vaccines, shared the findings in a tweet, and speculated that the true efficacy in offering protection against the Delta variant might be even lower - perhaps as low as 30%.

Even Bloomberg acknowledged that the Israeli data "could be skewed because of different ways of testing vaccinated groups of people versus those who hadn't been innoculated, according to the report.

"The heavily skewed exposure patterns in the recent outbreak in Israel, which are limited to specific population sectors and localities," means the analysis may not be able to take all factors into account, said Ran Balicer, chairman of Israel’s national expert advisory team on Covid-19 response. "We are trying to complement this research approach with additional ones, taking additional personal characteristics into account. But this takes time and larger case numbers."

BBG also acknowledged that the data "are likely to fuel debate over whether booster shots should be given to people who've already been vaccinated - something Pfizer has said it plans to request..."

But Dr. Anthony Fauci, the FDA and the CDC have all said that there's no evidence yet that a third "booster" shot would be necessary. Israel has already ordered a round of booster shots that it plans to start distributing to the most vulnerable patients Aug. 1.

The Israeli numbers are much lower than other recent studies, including one study recently published in the New England Journal of Medicine, which found that two doses offers 88% protection against the Delta variant causing symptomatic disease, while offering 94% protection against the alpha variant.

But never mind all that: As President Biden said earlier this week, "if you are vaccinated, you are safe." Unless you're not.

https://www.jpost.com/health-s...alized-people-674508

Coronavirus in Israel: What do we know about the 143 hospitalized people?

Of the 143 hospitalized patients, 58% were vaccinated, 39% were not at all, and 3% were partially vaccinated.

Some 143 Israelis were hospitalized with COVID-19 as of Wednesday at 12 p.m., according to the Health Ministry. Fifty-eight percent of them were vaccinated, 39% were not and 3% were partially vaccinated, meaning they had taken one dose or a full week had not passed since their second shot.

Only one patient was a child. Five were pregnant women or women who recently gave birth.

Of the country’s 64 serious patients, including 17 in critical condition, there were 12 who were being invasively ventilated. However, while the percentage of vaccinated cases was high, the percentage of those who require invasive treatment was low: Only three fully vaccinated people were being invasively ventilated.

Also, only two people were connected to an ECMO external oxygenation machine, and neither of them were vaccinated.

Although the number of serious patients is on the rise – with 154 new ones this month compared to only 31 new ones in May and 17 in June – there were 972 new serious cases last July.

Some 18,469 Israelis have been listed in serious or critical condition since the start of the pandemic.

Thirty of the 143 hospitalized patients were in moderate condition, and 49 in mild condition.

Where are they hospitalized?

According to the ministry, there are 42 patients in one of the four hospitals in central Israel besides Tel Aviv. Some 37 people are being treated in Tel Aviv, 25 in Haifa, 15 in southern Israel, 15 in northern Israel and another nine in Jerusalem.

Meir Medical Center in Kfar Saba has the highest number of patients with 14, and also the highest number of serious cases – along with Beersheba’s Soroka Medical Center – with seven. Hillel Yaffe Medical Center in Hadera followed closely behind with six.

No other hospital had any serious patients in the double digits; the highest number of patients at any other facility was nine.

How many people have died?

Since the start of the coronavirus crisis, 6,452 Israelis have died of the disease. The deadliest month was January 2021, when 1,445 Israelis died.

So far this month, 20 people have died of the virus, compared to nine people last month and 237 in July 2020.

Fifteen of the 20 people who died this month were fully vaccinated.

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
How many people have died?

Since the start of the coronavirus crisis, 6,452 Israelis have died of the disease. The deadliest month was January 2021, when 1,445 Israelis died.

So far this month, 20 people have died of the virus, compared to nine people last month and 237 in July 2020.

Fifteen of the 20 people who died this month were fully vaccinated.

Did the deaths in Israel from the Wuhan flu follow the same guidelines as those in the U.S. - anybody with The Wuhan counted as a Covid death even though they died from car accidents, gun shots, heart attacks, suicide, etc.?

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Originally posted by PASig:
I call bullshit on this woman who doesn’t even appear to be on the regular staff of the hospital she claims to work at.

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This lady is completely full of shit. The media picked up this story off Facebook for chrissakes.

I'm seeing a lot of this type of scare tactic now, with people like an old woman being interviewed saying, "ohhhh, I told my grown son to take the vaccine, but he said 'no, ma, I ain't doing it,' but then he got sick and now he's dead; ohhhh, please, people. Get the vaccine. Ohhh, my poor boy wouldn't listen."

Freaking lies.

Israeli lab: Some existing drugs could stop COVID at almost 100%

https://www.jpost.com/health-s...t-100-percent-674426

Be sure to read the comments. A lot of people understand what is happening.

Same lady and her doctor husband made news last year too. I am catching a whiff of propagandist bullshit.

COVID-Positive Doc: 'I Didn't Wear a Mask and I Regret It'

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Originally posted by PASig:
I call bullshit on this woman who doesn’t even appear to be on the regular staff of the hospital she claims to work at.
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Nope, you’re full of shit lady and it’s going to come out soon enough you’re a fraud:

“One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.”

Dr Peter McCullough MD is a Professor at Texas A & M College of Medicine, President, Cardiorenal Society of America, Editor-in-Chief, Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine, Senior Associate Editor, American Journal of Cardiology and others. He has written 46 peer-reviewed publications on COVID-19 and is considered among the world’s experts on the topic, testifying in the US Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs in November 2020, and throughout 2021 in the Texas Senate Committee on Health and Human Services, in the Colorado General Assembly, and in the New Hampshire Senate, concerning many aspects of the pandemic response.

Dr McCullough also practices internal medicine in Dallas and he was initially a proponent of the vaccine, until the many adverse reactions among his patients changed his mind completely. He has since come out adamantly against the jab.

He says, “Like most physicians looking at the data coming out of the registrational trials, the products looked like they were effective, ‘90% vaccine efficacy’…Through December, January, February, probably 70% of my patients here at Baylor in Dallas received the COVID-19 vaccine…looking backwards, now, on January 22nd, we had actually already had 186 deaths that had occurred after the vaccine. The threshold of concern is about 150 or so. In general, we get about 150 [deaths] for all the vaccines combined. 500 million shots per year, across 70 vaccines but for a single vaccine…

“I think if we had had a data and safety monitoring board, they would have shut down the vaccine in February of 2021.”

https://www.lewrockwell.com/20...bout-poisonous-jabs/