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As far as people dying from the vaccine... (and ignoring the numbers quoted above)

How would anyone know FOR SURE that someone died from the vaccine? And even if they really did, who would know/be told about it? Are they officially tracking it, is there a system in place to report it? Protocols and test to confirm it? Or are they just accepted as regular deaths "he was old, it happens".

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Yeah we had a COVID case at work, four people are quarantining, possibly a few more to be sent home. Already talk of getting rid of newly reinstated in person meetings and a recommendation to wear a mask. I'm going to be so pissed if we go back to masks.



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As far as people dying from the vaccine... (and ignoring the numbers quoted above)

How would anyone know FOR SURE that someone died from the vaccine? And even if they really did, who would know/be told about it? Are they officially tracking it, is there a system in place to report it? Protocols and test to confirm it? Or are they just accepted as regular deaths "he was old, it happens".

I figure much like the height of the panic, when damn near everything was reported as a covid death, we're probably 180 out from that with the vaccine. Where NOTHING gets reported as a vaccine related death, even if the doctors are pretty sure "yeah, it probably was". Don't want to cause a backlash, panic or lose the public trust.


This is my thought, as well.

One of my wife's cousins is in the hospital right now with heart, lung, kidney, AND liver failure (all at the same time), and will most likely die any day now. She is only being kept alive via life support equipment, as she cannot breathe on her own.

Coincidentally, this all hit the fan several days after she had the vaccine.

Now, MAYBE it's possible for somebody to have quadruple organ failure, but until proven otherwise, I am assuming the vaccine caused her problems.

And, as you indicated above, I doubt that anybody will EVER come out and say the vaccine killed her. More likely, they will chalk it up as another 'covid death.' We simply cannot trust the government, the media, or the health care system to tell us the truth anymore.



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How would anyone know FOR SURE that someone died from the vaccine?


My aunt's neighbors had twin 19 year old daughters take the vaccine. One got horribly sick, the other died later that night. Not sure which jab but neither had previous health issues and none of the docs wanna discuss WHY or HOW that could happen Mad


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Kudos Eric Clapton!



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From the very beginning of this ridiculous shite at the start in 2020, Clapton has been on the right side of things.

I absolutely love that he is taking this stand on the vaccine.


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love that he is taking this stand on the vaccine.


I have been a Clapton fan since the 60s, when he was with The Blues Breakers.

And I have had the same stand on this shit show from the beginning.




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love that he is taking this stand on the vaccine.


I have been a Clapton fan since the 60s, when he was with The Blues Breakers.


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John Mayall cultivated a lot of talent.


Another most folks should be more familiar with is blues musician Alexis Korner who like Mayall nurtured a lot of future icons.

I saw a group of musicians jamming with Korner in Battersea Park, UK, back in 1972. Two in attendance were from the Rolling Stones. It was an amazing afternoon.



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I wonder how long this coach will be able to hold out before they make it mandatory to be on the sideline or something.



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My aunt's neighbors had twin 19 year old daughters take the vaccine. One got horribly sick, the other died later that night.


That is one of most heartbreaking incidents I've heard. Parents outliving their children is bad enough, but it is even worse when a child is so young as to not even had a chance to really live life.




 
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You be the judge.
Did Anthony Fauci’s NIH Fund Gain-of-Function research?
Did Anthony Fauci commit a crime lying before Congress?

I take him at is word.
He supported Gain-of-Function research.
He Lifted halt to Funding Pause on Gain-of-Function research.
My verdict is liar, liar, pants on fire.

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You be the judge.
Did Anthony Fauci’s NIH Fund Gain-of-Function research?
Did Anthony Fauci commit a crime lying before Congress?

I take him at is word.
He supported Gain-of-Function research.
He Lifted halt to Funding Pause on Gain-of-Function research.
My verdict is liar, liar, pants on fire.

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Fauci lied again and needs to be prosecuted but seems to be protected. God Bless Smile


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My aunt's neighbors had twin 19 year old daughters take the vaccine. One got horribly sick, the other died later that night.


That is one of most heartbreaking incidents I've heard. Parents outliving their children is bad enough, but it is even worse when a child is so young as to not even had a chance to really live life.


It really is. I'm not sure of the circumstances on why the twins got the vaccine but the 2 colleges that my daughter is attending is requiring the jab or a waiver with weekly testing and a daily health journal. Being that my daughter is 20, she can make her own mind up but I gave her every bit of data that I could find. There's just no way of knowing how any of this is gonna pan out without proper long term testing and I told her not to be a guinea pig. As of now, she hasn't and doesn't plan on getting any of the jabs.

I would put a serious hurt on those that have come up with this "mandatory" jab nonsense if my child died because of their idiotic notion of safety. I can't imagine the pain my aunt's neighbors are feeling.


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There is a joint announcement coming out later today from 4 major healthcare systems in NC that they are now going to require that all employees be vaccinated. Failure to do so will result in mandatory leave of absence until they are vaccinated - continued failure to do so will result in termination.

While there will be a few exemptions based on health or religious grounds, I suspect that there will be more turnover than they anticipate which will only make it harder to provide care for patients in need.



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While there will be a few exemptions based on health or religious grounds, I suspect that there will be more turnover than they anticipate which will only make it harder to provide care for patients in need.

The devil is always in the details...
The question is how difficult will they make it to get a waiver. If you simply state your objection and they give a waiver, no problem but they could make it nearly impossible, in which case lots of people will leave and/or sue.



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How would anyone know FOR SURE that someone died from the vaccine?

My aunt's neighbors had twin 19 year old daughters take the vaccine. One got horribly sick, the other died later that night. Not sure which jab but neither had previous health issues and none of the docs wanna discuss WHY or HOW that could happen Mad

Probably, ya know, coincidental. Just like it was probably coincidental that one of my best friends, his wife, and a best friend of my wife's in another country all got mysteriously sick for reasons none of their doctors could explain, with identical symptoms, shortly after their vaccines. My best friend had to be hospitalized twice because "it," whatever it was, morphed into pneumonia.

In Yet Another Wu Flu thread somebody started here, a poster noted "It is kind of depressing that otherwise reasonably intelligent folks have bought the whole scamdemic hook, line, and sinker." Well, when the dominant "news" media, both national and local, are incessantly yammering the party line nearly every minute of every day and night, and studiously avoiding mentioning anything about the negative consequences of experimental vaccines--other than references to alleged "misinformation," what do you expect?




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House Democrats Block COVID Origins declassification Bill

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...eclassification-bill

House Democrats on Tuesday blocked a GOP bill which would require the Director of National Intelligence to declassify information related to the US government's investigations into the Wuhan coronavirus pandemic - and in particular, what role the Wuhan Institute of Virology may have played in the outbreak.

The COVID-19 Origin Act was introduced in the Senate by Josh Hawley (R-MO) and Mike Braun (R-IN), and was passed unanimously in May, according to Townhall. Then, it was brought to the House floor by Rep. Michael Burgess (R-TX) along with Reps. Brad Wenstrup (R-OH) and Darin LaHood (R-IL).

"The best disinfectant is sunlight and that's what we can provide today," said Wenstrup. "The bill first establishes that we must identify the precise origins of COVID-19 because it is critical for preventing a similar pandemic in the future."

"I cannot stress enough that this bill is not controversial by any means," he continued. "In fact, it passed the Senate in May with unanimous consent — not one senator objected. Not Senators Ted Cruz or Rand Paul, not Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren. If those four members can get on board with this bill, should not we be able to do the same?"

Rep. LaHood further explained the legislation's purpose, saying it "would require the Biden administration Director of National Intelligence to declassify intelligence information related to any potential links between the Wuhan Institute of Virology — also known as the Wuhan lab — and the origins of COVID-19 in order to better prepare and avoid future pandemics."

"The bottom line is Americans deserve a full accounting of the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic," he added. -Townhall

In April, Hawley noted that "for over a year, anyone asking questions about the Wuhan Institute if Virology has been branded as a conspiracy theorist," adding "the world needs to know if this pandemic was the product of negligence at the Wuhan lab but the [Chinese Communist Party] has done everything it can to block a credible investigation. That's why the Biden administration must declassify what it knows about the Wuhan lab and Beijing's attempts to cover up the origin of the pandemic."

As The Federalist notes, "House Democrats’ vote against transparency comes just days after the World Health Organization urged China to cooperate with their second inquiry into the virus’s origins, citing previous difficulty working with the communist regime when China refused to share raw patient data with the WHO during the first round of investigations.




 
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Look at their faces, they are just seething with rage inside that someone dares question their Great God Fauci Roll Eyes

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I don't understand the vaccine and masks. The wrong people are being made to wear them.

If you've been vaccinated, you should have to wear a mask. You could have the cooties all over you and spread em to everyone you encounter, you'd never know.

If you aren't vaccinated and you get it, you may at least know it and stay your ass home.

Make all them vaccinated typhoid Mary's wear a mask! Big Grin
 
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