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Here is a video by Jane Bürgermeister from 2012 that I believe you'll find very interesting.

Remember Swine Flu & Avian Flu - Flashback to Jane Bürgermeister pandemic update june 22th 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JxR3TmFf9M



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Are we still intubating and putting people on ventilators? I thought that was largely abandoned as not effective and even deadly for severe Covid patients?

When you’re at the point of needing intubation, you’re still lucid and able to speak like that?

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Yes to both. She is an internist and on the active staff. You can tell she is young, older docs usually do not post on Facebook.
 
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She is an alarmist...




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She is an alarmist...

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Some docs are more suited for the theatre.
 
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And, back to mask mandates at work. Got a few good weeks in of not looking like a bank robber. Six people exposed by one of our vendors, three have tested positive, three await results.

I am so sick of this shit.



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Posts: 21252 | Location: Loudoun County, Virginia | Registered: December 27, 2014Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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But, but, you're vaccinated



 
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But, but, you're vaccinated


Think about the children! 0.000000651% of our population is dying every single day from COVID.



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I don't care.

I got the car!





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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...covid-nursi-n2593010

The Justice Department told Gov. Tom Wolf’s office on Thursday that it has decided not to open an investigation into whether Pennsylvania violated federal law by ordering nursing homes to accept residents who had been treated for COVID-19 in a hospital.

The letter comes 11 months after the department told the governors of Pennsylvania, Michigan, New Jersey and New York that it wanted information to determine whether orders there “may have resulted in the deaths of thousands of elderly nursing home residents.”

The one-page letter, from Steven H. Rosenbaum, chief of the department’s special litigation section, said they had reviewed information supplied by Pennsylvania, as well as “additional information available to the department.”

Michigan received an identical letter Thursday. But New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy’s office said it had not received one while New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s spokesperson Richard Azzopardi said he was checking to see if that administration had received one.

Separately, the Justice Department last October requested data from New Jersey and New York about their nursing home deaths, and launched a formal investigation into care at New Jersey’s veterans homes after receiving what it described as incomplete answers to its request for data.

This year, federal prosecutors in Manhattan were probing how Cuomo’s administration has handled data on nursing home deaths. The status of those probes are unclear.

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?? biden doj covering for DEM governors ?
 
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Originally posted by Skins2881:
And, back to mask mandates at work. Got a few good weeks in of not looking like a bank robber. Six people exposed by one of our vendors, three have tested positive, three await results.

I am so sick of this shit.
Yet no one goes any further to ask how many are actually sick or require hospitalization. Testing positive means literally nothing of value given the testing isn't fully reliable, and testing positive with no symptoms means virtually nothing.

This country has slipped to a point of almost complete mental lockdown where zero common sense or intelligence is being used to evaluate anything having to do with this bug.


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Biden Gaffe Renews Questions About COVID Transparency

https://www.realclearpolitics....sparency_146132.html

President Biden so desperately wants the vaccine-hesitant part of the country to get their shots that he may have spread a little misinformation. “You are not going to get COVID,” he promised during a CNN town-event Wednesday night, “if you have these vaccines.”

Of course, this is not true. Biden knows it. He said as much later during the forum, explaining that, while vaccinated individuals enjoy significant protections, they can still test positive for the virus. But even if that happens, the president pointed out, the vaccine largely mitigates the most serious dangers. “You are not going to be hospitalized,” he said, reciting the latest scientific consensus. “You are not going to be in the IC unit, and you are not going to die.”

The fact that fully vaccinated individuals can still contract the coronavirus is a medical reality. It has also led to more uncomfortable questions about transparency for the Biden administration.

White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki revealed at Tuesday’s briefing that there had been previously undisclosed “breakthrough infections” among vaccinated employees at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Psaki refused, two days later, to say how many White House officials had gotten sick.

Reporters pressed her on the issue. After all, as the country learned the hard way during the pandemic, the health of the people working directly for the president can end up influencing the health of the republic. A lot of people have those jobs, more than 2,000 in the White House itself and the adjacent Eisenhower Executive Office Building. According to Psaki, that means “that just statistically speaking, there will be people who are vaccinated individuals who get COVID on the campus.”

Will the White House make those statistics available as they develop? “No,” Psaki said. “I don't think you can expect that we're going to be providing numbers of breakthrough cases.”

Well, why not? The story of the pandemic has been told through the charts and graphs presented to the public by members of the White House COVID task force. Why should this data be exempt?

When Kelly O'Donnell of NBC News pressed the White House to explain the lack of transparency, Psaki responded by saying that things are different now: “Well, Kelly, I think, one, we're in a very different place than we were several months ago. The vast, vast, vast majority of individuals who are vaccinated who get COVID will be asymptomatic or have mild cases.”

Psaki continued by saying that everyone who clocks in and out at the White House campus “has been offered a vaccine.” But those administration employees, like the rest of the federal workforce, have not been required to roll up their sleeves and take the shot. Face coverings have disappeared all the same at the White House, and aides are expected to follow the rule Biden laid out in May: “Get vaccinated or wear a mask until you do.”

But since even vaccinated individuals can become infected with the virus, what happens in those cases? “We have been very clear that we will be transparent with anyone who has had close proximity contact with the president or any of the four principles as deemed by the White House medical unit with all of you,” Psaki said.

And if someone sick with COVID comes into close contact with those principles, the press secretary said that the case itself would be made public but the infected individual would decide whether or not his or her name would be released. She promised, “We will protect their privacy.”

White House staff were made aware of this policy in a campus-wide email sent recently, and Psaki said Tuesday that the White House was abiding by “an agreement we made during the transition to be transparent and make information available.” They had committed then, she insisted, to releasing “information proactively if it is commissioned officers.”

The White House did not provide a copy of that commitment to transparency when asked to do so by RealClearPolitics.

It is a touchy subject. On one hand, the White House would rather not deal with headlines about vaccinated staffers coming down with COVID at the exact moment they are singing the praises of getting vaccinated. On the other, they would rather keep contact tracing apolitical and skip the pandemic parlor game that consumed the press and the previous administration.

In the time before the vaccine, reporters kept meticulous notes of which Trump staffers were and were not wearing their masks. And after Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett’s ceremonial nomination in the Rose Garden was dubbed a “super-spreader” by Anthony Fauci, the press scrambled to carry out their own unofficial contact tracing to see who might have been the “patient zero” who infected President Trump, the first lady, and several members of Congress. Biden World would rather skip that drama.

The risks aren’t as severe now, thanks to the vaccine. Get the shot and, as Biden explained, “you are not going to die.” All the same, even some Biden allies find the lack of transparency frustrating. “I get they’re trying to show strength and resolve, but I hated this secrecy with Trump and I hate it here with Biden too,” said Bradley Moss, a partner at the law firm that represented the whistleblower in Trump’s first impeachment. “Keep the public informed. Secrecy breeds mistrust.”

So why not just tell the public how many breakthrough cases there have been? Again, as Psaki explained, “we're in a very different place than we were several months ago.”


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On top of all that, do you see what you guys did? Matt Damon is frustrated because you won't take the shot. You have frustrated Matt Damon. It's come to this.
 
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UK Report: 40% of Those Hospitalized for COVID-19 Were Fully Vaccinated

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/...re-fully-vaccinated/

On Tuesday the United Kingdom Government’s Chief Scientific Adviser Sir Patrick Vallance gave a press conference in which he warned that 60% of those admitted to hospitals for COVID-19 had received both doses of a COVID-19 vaccine. Vallance later issued a tweet explaining that he had previously misspoken, with the actual number around 40%.

https://www.express.co.uk/news...-johnson-freedom-day

Speaking at a Downing Street news briefing, Sir Patrick Vallance said:

“In terms of the number of people in hospital who’ve been double-vaccinated, we know it’s around 60% of the people being admitted to hospital with COVID.”

Vallance continued, explaining that the extraordinarily high figure was nothing to worry about.

“And that’s not surprising because the vaccines are not one hundred percent effective, they’re very very effective but not a hundred percent, and as a higher proportion of the population is double vaccinated, it’s inevitable that those ten percent of that very large number remain at risk and therefore will be amongst the people who both catch the infection and end up in hospital.”

The press conference was soon after followed by a Twitter post, in which Vallance said the percentage of hospitalized COVID-19 patients who were fully vaccinated lies at 40% rather than 60%.

“Correcting a statistic I gave at the press conference today, 19 July. About 60% of hospitalisations from covid are not from double vaccinated people, rather 60% of hospitalisations from covid are currently from unvaccinated people.”

The post drew a wide array of responses, with many expressing skeptcism and even accusing Vallance as possibly lying.

“I’m sorry but HOW do you as UK Science Chief get such important figures wrong and discredit the double vaccinated in the process?” Posted one user. “Doesn’t add up and very suspect. Were you mistaken then or LYING now?”

“You Lying,” said another user in a more brief response.


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On top of all that, do you see what you guys did? Matt Damon is frustrated because you won't take the shot. You have frustrated Matt Damon. It's come to this.


Did you see him in Good Will Hunting? We cannot have a frustrated Matt Damon.



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I'd fly to Turks and Caicos with live ammo falling out of my pockets before getting within spitting distance of NJ with a firearm.
The “lol” thread
 
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On top of all that, do you see what you guys did? Matt Damon is frustrated because you won't take the shot. You have frustrated Matt Damon. It's come to this.


Great. Now he'll crap on all the potatoes. And I really liked potatoes.





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"Vallance continued, explaining that the extraordinarily high figure was nothing to worry about.

“And that’s not surprising because the vaccines are not one hundred percent effective, they’re very very effective but not a hundred percent." Well, very, very 40% effective. No, sixty. Forty is 60% very, very.

A Monty Python skit.


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Australia update
Sydney NSW.

Sydney is under lockdown, as the Delta variant spreads in a few 'burbs. Not the entire city.

For the week, 479k tests; 686 test positive.

And there is even the bare faced suggestion of a "ring of steel" around Sydney. That is a political and health expression for thinly disguised checkpoint charlies at certain Sydney 'burbs.

Ridiculous.

The result is thousands of anti-lockdown protestors marched in the CBD.

The news link below tells an obvious media biased story. And the pro and anti commentaries inline to the story.

Sydney anti-lockdown protesters

Some images from that story.





Being able to step outside and express feelings and pent up emotions.

There is absolutely a shortage of vaccine supplies in Aus. Not enough ordered.

Meanwhile, down here in Melbourne Victoria, our lockdown, while not as draconian, is well rehearsed ...

Anti-lockdown protestors descended on Flinders St Station in Melbourne.



(Note: The flag in the image? The Eureka flag. 1854 rebellion. Gold miners and the cost of mining licenses and colonial authority.
Versus mounted policy, army and para-military units. One day and done.)

So, after 3 hours of protesting Victoria's lockdown rules, mounted and special ops units moved in. Congrats, you get capsicum sprayed.

Sigh.

Trust you and yours are well.

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RT- They publish the worst of the West but sadly the truth:

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Australia goes down under the boot as citizens in Sydney are ordered to avoid casual conversation– even with a mask and vaccine


"new Covid cases in New South Wales – 78 to be precise, and one death"

"“So, even if you run into your next-door neighbor in the shopping center … don’t start up a conversation. Now is the time for minimizing your interactions with others.”"

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/52995...vid-speaking-people/


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citizens in Sydney are ordered to avoid casual conversation


Huh. It's almost as if they're concerned the citizens may be wishing to plot something against their overlords.

The people would be better to facilitate these conversations via electronic means so that they may be more closely monitored.


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They announced on Friday that St. Louis City/County will require masks to be worn in indoor public places and on public transportation beginning Monday. Vaccination status doesn't matter.

So, if it is so dangerous, why the wait until Monday? I guess no one can catch this "deadly" plague during the weekend. Ah, the horseshit continues.
 
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