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Shipping from China is beginning to return to normal despite the Sky is falling mentality from the media...

https://gcaptain.com/cma-cgm-s...5f&mc_eid=94bc1ac706


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Shipping from China is beginning to return to normal despite the Sky is falling mentality from the media...

https://gcaptain.com/cma-cgm-s...5f&mc_eid=94bc1ac706

Do the Chinese charge extra for Wuhan contamination or is that considered that little something extra?




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Shipping from China is beginning to return to normal despite the Sky is falling mentality from the media...

And the spread of the virus in China seems to have slowed.
Hopefully, it will soon slow in other "hot spots" around the world.

Here in St. Louis, we just got our first case:

The woman who tested positive for the virus returned home to St. Louis earlier this week from a study abroad trip in Italy. She went to Mercy Hospital St. Louis (615 S New Ballas Road) and was evaluated before being sent home to quarantine with her parents, who were not showing any signs of sickness.

Officials said the woman lives somewhere in St. Louis county and attends an out-of-state school but have not released any other personal information. They said she started developing symptoms on Wednesday and went to the hospital on Friday, where medical staff took every safety precaution possible from her arrival at the hospital to her dismissal.

https://www.riverfronttimes.co...-19-case-in-missouri



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Saw this a little while ago.

Someone who attended CPAC has tested Positive.

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"The exposure occurred previous to the conference. A New Jersey hospital tested the person, and CDC confirmed the positive result," the event's organizer American Conservative Union tweeted on Saturday, referring to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The individual is quarantined and under medical care in New Jersey.


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ACU chairman Matt Schlapp however told The Washington Post that he interacted with the infected person at the event -- and while the timeline is unclear, Schlapp shook Trump's hand on the stage on the last day of the conference.


link

Cue theatrical music!!!

(no claims nor hysteria here, just a joke and sharing the news)
 
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And the spread of the virus in China seems to have slowed.
Hopefully, it will soon slow in other "hot spots" around the world.

China's extreme measures are being credited for that. Measures similar to those undertaken, yesterday, by Italy.



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Originally posted by smlsig:
Shipping from China is beginning to return to normal despite the Sky is falling mentality from the media...

https://gcaptain.com/cma-cgm-s...5f&mc_eid=94bc1ac706

Do the Chinese charge extra for Wuhan contamination or is that considered that little something extra?


It's a feature, not a bug..
 
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And the spread of the virus in China seems to have slowed.
Wow! Who'd a thunk it?!? People got sick and now they're getting better?? I'm AMAZED!!! Eek

That's not a slight on you in anyway, chellim1. I appreciate your fastidiousness in your posts on this topic. It is, however, a pithy comment on my continued DISDAIN for the Fake News created HYSTERIA of this total bullshit that is affecting my career and those of my brothers and sisters in aviation in the short-term, when it shouldn't have had an impact in the LEAST BIT. Just another TOTAL FABRICATION and in the President's words, a HOAX, for the Fake News to once again TRY to pin on President Trump.

https://www.dennisprager.com/w...ysteria-to-hysteria/

In the video below, Dennis mentions the statistic that in the United States ALONE, during the time period of 2017-2018, 61,000 people died from the flu. CDC Link Where was the hysteria? Can you imagine the utter TERROR that would rip through this country apart if 62,000 people die from Dos EquisXXX virus?? All fabricated bullshit...





Article to which Dennis refers in the above video... https://nypost.com/2020/01/23/...the-new-china-virus/




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Since March Madness is coming up, maybe we can have a SigForum “office pool”
Everyone throws in $5 , first member with a confirmed case of Corona virus wins the pot!


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... my continued DISDAIN for the Fake News created HYSTERIA of this total bullshit ... Just something for the Fake News to once again TRY to pin a TOTAL FABRICATION on President Trump.

Caught Dr. Anthony Fauci, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, on FOX News Sunday this morning. His advice: People with underlying conditions, particularly the elderly, should right now avoid places with crowded conditions, getting on airplanes and, above all, don't get on a cruise ship.

Is that "fake news," then?

And, if you have somebody at home that falls in the above "at risk" category due to age and/or underlying conditions, would it not also be prudent to avoid those same things so as to avoid potentially bringing the virus home? (I fall into this group due to my wife's health issues.) Or would that also be a sign of "HYSTERIA?"

He later went on to say "Don't get on a cruise ship. ... No one has told us not to say that and I'm saying it very clearly, now, on your show."

Guess he's just being "HYSTERICAL," too?



"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher
 
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Caught Dr. Anthony Fauci, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, on FOX News Sunday this morning. His advice: People with underlying conditions, particularly the elderly, should right now avoid places with crowded conditions, getting on airplanes and, above all, don't get on a cruise ship.

Is that "fake news," then?

And, if you have somebody at home that falls in the above "at risk" category due to age and/or underlying conditions, would it not also be prudent to avoid those same things so as to avoid potentially bringing the virus home? (I fall into this group due to my wife's health issues.) Or would that also be a sign of "HYSTERIA?"

He later went on to say "Don't get on a cruise ship. ... No one has told us not to say that and I'm saying it very clearly, now, on your show."

Guess he's just being "HYSTERICAL," too?
I would say those are precautions for "at-risk" and "immuno-compromised" individuals to adhere to AT ALL TIMES. Respectfully, it doesn't have thing one to do with this Coronavirus. That's EVERY DAY!!! My 85 year old mother thinks this is as much of a joke than I. Apple didn't fall far from the tree.

Yes...it IS hysteria. Fabricated hysteria.

I've made my point and said my peace. I'm out...



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Originally posted by erj_pilot:
... my continued DISDAIN for the Fake News created HYSTERIA of this total bullshit ... Just something for the Fake News to once again TRY to pin a TOTAL FABRICATION on President Trump.

Caught Dr. Anthony Fauci, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, on FOX News Sunday this morning. His advice: People with underlying conditions, particularly the elderly, should right now avoid places with crowded conditions, getting on airplanes and, above all, don't get on a cruise ship.

Is that "fake news," then?

And, if you have somebody at home that falls in the above "at risk" category due to age and/or underlying conditions, would it not also be prudent to avoid those same things so as to avoid potentially bringing the virus home? (I fall into this group due to my wife's health issues.) Or would that also be a sign of "HYSTERIA?"

He later went on to say "Don't get on a cruise ship. ... No one has told us not to say that and I'm saying it very clearly, now, on your show."

Guess he's just being "HYSTERICAL," too?


Frankly, yes he is. Unless he advises the same precautions every year during flu season. He has to say what he did because if he said otherwise, and an elderly or immune compromised person did happen to catch this particular virus and die, he would be crucified in the media. He's playing it safe. Plain and simple.


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It's a danger, but it's vastly overblown by the media.

An employee at my place of work just tested positive (CT's first confirmed case, as I posted earlier). They live in Westchester NY and it's assumed they got it there.

Last night we had a Webex hosted by our head of infectious diseases and our infection control department. The information given was that COVID-19 is not spread by asymptomatic people and that the expected mortality rate will be about the same as the flu. People over 80 are affected the worst and could have a mortality rate as high as 35-40 percent.

Not good, but not the end of the world as we know it.



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I am assistant coach for my 6 year old's lacrosse team. First game is April 4, with practices T and Th starting the 24th of March.

There are 10 kids on the team, most of which attend the same school as my kid. There are however, 1 or 2 kids (I don't know them or their parents) who go to a school called St. Anne's in Denver.

This is the St. Anne's (https://www.denverpost.com/2020/03/06/st-annes-episcopal-school-denver-closed-coronavirus/) that closed early on Friday and is closed Monday and Tuesday for possible Corona virus contamination. A parent (we know who it is) is the possible contaminant.

Am I hysterical for considering that I don't want these kids to practice with my kids?

On top of that, my head coach is good friends with the parent in question. It's very likely they have been together in the last week or two, or their kids have.

Corona virus, or normal flu, I think I am right to be hesitant. What say you?
 
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From Tarl Warwick, my favorite ex-Satanist political commentor.



Lyrics:

Ooh, my little viral one, viral one
When you gonna give me a test for corona?
Ooh, you make my ventilator, lotsa fun
Got it coming off of my skin corona

Never gonna stop, hack it up, such a dirty mind
I always get it up, when I think how I might die
Die Die Die Die Die!

D-D-D-Die of corona!

Come a little closer, huh, a-will ya, huh?
Close enough to sneeze on my eyes, corona
Filling up with disease, cough on my cleats
Running in my veins and my mind, corona

Never gonna stop, hack it up, such a dirty mind
I always get it up, when I think how I might die
Die Die Die Die Die!

D-D-D-Die of corona!
D-D-D-Die of corona!

When you gonna give to me, your viral sleaze
Is it just a matter of time, corona?
Is it d-d-destiny, d-destiny
Or is it the end of mankind, corona?
Never gonna stop, hack it up, such a dirty mind
I always get it up, when I think how I might die
Die Die Die Die Die!

D-D-D-Die of corona!





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Frankly, yes he is. Unless he advises the same precautions every year during flu season.

Except, some folks' insistence otherwise, there are several significant differences between SARS-CoV-2 and seasonal influenza:

  • SARS-CoV-2 has an exceptionally long incubation period compared to most common influenza: 2-3 weeks as compared to 2-3 days
  • It is believed to be significantly more contagious and virulent than influenza. It is also highly contagious during its incubation period, whereas flu is not so much
  • It has been tested to survive on some surfaces for up to nine (9) days--significantly longer than the average flu virus, which average more in the range of hours
  • The human population has built up a degree of herd immunity to influenza. SARS-CoV-2 is brand new, so that does not obtain
  • Unlike influenza: There are no vaccinations or anti-virals for SARS-CoV-2
  • There's some initial evidence to suggest Covid-19 may be significantly more deadly than influenza

Personally, I am of the opinion Dr. Fauci is neither hysterical nor panicking. I feel he's offering sound, reasonable precautionary advice.



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I have a serious question for all of those who have bought into the media hype.

If I take my normal flu season precautions (which even the hystericals admit is the best course of action), am I any more likely to contract the virus than those who are cleaning out the bank account because they have bought into the automated power grid going down, or the virus knocking over a liquor store down on Jackson Street?

The “experts” admit that the precautions are the same. Are the hysterical any more immune for this disease? If I don’t buy into the “suggestions” that the virus is more deadly, blah blah blah, than the flu (or the swine flu, bird flu, SARS, or any ghost of panic past) am I going to catch the virus faster because I refuse to be terrified of it? Will the virus kidnap one of my kids and cut off a finger to send back to me to show me it means business because I’m not giving it its “props”?

Because that’s certainly what it feels like when I read these posts quoting made up statistics and numbers of this and that. It really seems to be another snake oil sale.




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the virus knocking over a liquor store down on Jackson Street?


Hey now!



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I have a serious question for all of those who have bought into the media hype.

If I take my normal flu season precautions (which even the hystericals admit is the best course of action), am I any more likely to contract the virus than those who are cleaning out the bank account because they have bought into the automated power grid going down, or the virus knocking over a liquor store down on Jackson Street?

The “experts” admit that the precautions are the same. Are the hysterical any more immune for this disease?


Anymore immune no, in less contact with possibly infected people MAYBE.

I had a serious case of the flu which turned to Bronchitis for 2 weeks earlier this year. I sure as hell was glad that I didn't have to leave the house feeling miserable as hell to buy any food, water, or TP while I was sick or risk infecting others for those 2 weeks. My mom did bring a few small items and drop them off once or twice, but I didn't have to do any full scale grocery shopping or anything of that nature......I had enough of the essentials to not have to bother leaving the house while I felt totally miserable.

BUT, I don't know of your area, but in mine, the local Costco is a gold mine. During normal times, you are elbow to elbow with people all over the store, it doesn't matter what day or time of day the store is always packed, it's a very busy store, same with the grocery stores here. If the virus got a foothold in my area, not having to expose yourself to bumping into a bunch of people that walk around or go to work really sick (whether it be flu or coronavirus), infecting everyone they come in contact with, is just a bonus.

I was at Coldstone creamery the other night and a couple had 2 young kids maybe 4 and 6 years old. The 6 year old daughter was seriously sick and coughing all of the time while they're in line etc. and not even covering her mouth......for example.....inconsiderate jerks.....the mom or dad could've waited outside of the store with the daughter instead of subjecting the 14 people in line to it and everything in the store. The store is small with only 2 inside tables and they ended up eating at a table outside anyways.

I simply stock up on things I buy at Costco (tp, paper towels, water) just for the ease of I then only have to go there once every 6-8 weeks. But when I get down to 2 cases of water, I go back and buy 6-8 cases more and the other products I will need for the next 6-8 weeks. But the less I have to deal with bumping elbows with a thousand 60+ year old Northerners sniffling, coughing, and sneezing, the better. Or if a hurricane is coming, I don't have to fight the lines or worry about it. It's not like a case of toilet paper or water is going to go bad in the next year.
 
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have a serious question for all of those who have bought into the media hype.

^^^^^^^
The guy that makes sense is Dr. Fauci, the same voice of reason when the AIDS epidemic began. The podcast posted earlier in this thread says it all. Admittedly it is a little cerebral as the interviewer is a physician from JAMA and Fauci is not hysterical. He states the facts, and the precautions one should take no more.
 
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You’re a better man than me Jimmy. I would have asked them to take their sick crotch goblin outside. I’m of the belief that people need to be called out for this kind of crap.
Then again, in your neck of the woods you Do need to be a little more careful how you talk to people, ha ha.
 
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