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Originally posted by Modern Day Savage:
[note: there is a news video embedded at the linked story]

With virtually every TV or radio news break saturating the airwaves with just how desperate the C-19 crisis is, with hospitals supposedly almost overflowing with new cases

Talked with my neighbor today who is the head of cardiology for one of the biggest hospital organizations in Central Florida, and he noted that in his weekly management meeting, the board noted that the Covid ward at their hospital was so empty they had begun reorganizing nurse and support staff schedules to get people back to the ER and ICU for regular work.

Once again, we are being lied to daily.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
Makes you mad that right now with the new information in front of us, including death rates falling off a cliff that we can't have dinner with friends.

Don't know about you, but we had Thanksgiving dinner this afternoon with about 30 family members of all ages, and not a single mask was in attendance. It was a wonderful day. Glad the entire family feels the same as I do about this BS.

The Covid Cult / banned by youtube, you can watch it here:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/mcm8Sc8f66o/

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by Modern Day Savage:
[note: there is a news video embedded at the linked story]

With virtually every TV or radio news break saturating the airwaves with just how desperate the C-19 crisis is, with hospitals supposedly almost overflowing with new cases

Talked with my neighbor today who is the head of cardiology for one of the biggest hospital organizations in Central Florida, and he noted that in his weekly management meeting, the board noted that the Covid ward at their hospital was so empty they had begun reorganizing nurse and support staff schedules to get people back to the ER and ICU for regular work.

Once again, we are being lied to daily.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
Makes you mad that right now with the new information in front of us, including death rates falling off a cliff that we can't have dinner with friends.

Don't know about you, but we had Thanksgiving dinner this afternoon with about 30 family members of all ages, and not a single mask was in attendance. It was a wonderful day. Glad the entire family feels the same as I do about this BS.

Florida has a hospital capacity dash board that shows hospital bed and ICU bed capacity by county and by hospital. It is updated daily. Capacities now are the same as pre-COVID pandemic. Florida hospital dash board

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Don't know about you, but we had Thanksgiving dinner this afternoon with about 30 family members of all ages, and not a single mask was in attendance. It was a wonderful day. Glad the entire family feels the same as I do about this BS.

I worked all day, just did dinner with my wife after work, quick and easy meal. Even if not for work my grandparents are in their 80's and one is in home hospice, no one wants to be the person that literally kills grandma.

Of course not. Two things come to mind.

One, isn't hospice care for folks in their final stage of life? What could possibly be more important to someone in hospice care than seeing family?

Second is my parents are 82 and 79 with multiple conditions. My mom has been on me about my not having brought the kids over. The school my kids go to holds the record for number of cases of any school in my county. I've subbed there in classes where kids have had it on several occasions. My son went to a birthday party at a teacher's house on a Saturday and one of the teacher's children had it the next week. I've been telling my mom that I don't want to risk bringing my kids over.

This past week my mom had surgery for a torn retina and I found out on Wednesday that her other eye is giving her problems and she can't see out of it either. This means that even if I bring the kids over, she literally won't be able to see them.

I've made a mistake. I know the risks, I'm not afraid for myself or my kids, and there was no real reason I couldn't have brought my kids over to see my parents in a way that would minimize the risks. At this point, my mom may never see her grandkids again.

With all the lies told so far, I have had doubts for some time now that a person with a positive test but no symptoms, actually has the virus. With all the lies we are being fed, how can anything they say be believed? I have never believed the number of infections they report after seeing how they have inflated and exaggerated for so long.

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One, isn't hospice care for folks in their final stage of life? What could possibly be more important to someone in hospice care than seeing family?

If it was only up to her, we would have done a dinner. She's accepted her fate, my grandfather on the other hand has hopefully, many more years on the clock. The other parts of the family made the decision, I just went with it.

The mental health pandemic is just beginning as a consequence of these bureaucratic decisions.

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Originally posted by tleo205:
With all the lies told so far, I have had doubts for some time now that a person with a positive test but no symptoms, actually has the virus. With all the lies we are being fed, how can anything they say be believed? I have never believed the number of infections they report after seeing how they have inflated and exaggerated for so long.

My wife runs a Covid testing unit for an adjacent County. The nasal PCR test being used is believed to show 50% false positives. So we are not seeing increased cases of Covid, we are seeing increased false positive tests of Covid.

This nonsense is just too good of a tool to control the masses. This 'public health' charade will become the instrument to curtail those pesky individual freedoms...it's already happened while we were crouched in the basement congratulating ourselves on not having the cooties.

Way back when Fauci said we need to lock down for two weeks I told my wife that this will never end. From now on we will never be without a health crisis of some kind.

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My wife runs a Covid testing unit for an adjacent County. The nasal PCR test being used is believed to show 50% false positives. So we are not seeing increased cases of Covid, we are seeing increased false positive tests of Covid.

Along with huge number of false positive tests, I am not convinced that someone can really have it and not have any symptoms at all if it is as bad as they tell us.. Is everybody walking around with the flu without any symptoms??? You either have the flu or do not and this is the same thing to me.

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Originally posted by tleo205:
Along with huge number of false positive tests, I am not convinced that someone can really have it and not have any symptoms at all if it is as bad as they tell us.. Is everybody walking around with the flu without any symptoms??? You either have the flu or do not and this is the same thing to me.

It's possible (I really don't know) that there are other viruses that can be carried/spread without symptoms. I'm not aware of any mass testing efforts to detect asymptomatic influenza, colds or Norovirus.

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Is everybody walking around with the flu without any symptoms??? You either have the flu or do not and this is the same thing to me.

I have read studies in the past that said that you can indeed be infected with the flu virus and never have any symptoms or symptoms that are so mild that you wouldn't consider yourself to have the flu.

Here's one that I just googled:

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/new...nfected-few-are-sick

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British researchers who tested people for influenza antibodies before and after each flu season for 5 years found that an average of 18% of them appeared to have contracted a flu infection each season, but only 23% of that group got sick, according to a report in The Lancet Respiratory Medicine.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
Even if not for work my grandparents are in their 80's and one is in home hospice, no one wants to be the person that literally kills grandma.

We had fun with it. All the older folks were seated together slightly away from us, and the kids served them their plates, which the older folks just loved. Amazing isn't it? No one in the family is a renowned immunologist, yet we came up with a simple design solution that worked out great for everyone so the entire family could enjoy each other for Thanksgiving. Who would have thought?

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We had fun with it. All the older folks were seated together slightly away from us, and the kids served them their plates, which the older folks just loved. Amazing isn't it? No one in the family is a renowned immunologist, yet we came up with a simple design solution that worked out great for everyone so the entire family could enjoy each other for Thanksgiving. Who would have thought?

Amazing what people using common sense can do without "big brother" intruding!

Johns Hopkins University Newspaper Pulls Down Article Questioning COVID-19 Death Tolls

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...h-tolls_3595884.html

Johns Hopkins University’s student newspaper has removed an article, in which an economics professor suggested that the current COVID-19 death toll is misleading, based on her analysis of official data.

The article, which was published Sunday on Johns Hopkins News-Letter, focused on an analysis performed by Genevieve Briand, an assistant program director at the university’s economics department. Briand analyzed the effect of the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus pandemic on U.S. deaths using data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and presented her findings in a webinar.

The CDC data showed that the number of total deaths in the United States between mid-March and mid-September was 1.7 million, of which 200,000 are COVID-19-related. Briand looked at the total deaths in each age group and cause of death, and used that information to evaluate the impact of the pandemic.

“Surprisingly, the deaths of older people stayed the same before and after COVID-19,” the JHN article read. “Since COVID-19 mainly affects the elderly, experts expected an increase in the percentage of deaths in older age groups. However, this increase is not seen from the CDC data. In fact, the percentages of deaths among all age groups remain relatively the same.”

When it comes to causes of deaths, Briand found that the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19. She said this is likely because that many deaths have been incorrectly labeled as COVID-19 deaths when they would have been attributed to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza, and pneumonia.

“The reason we have a higher number of reported COVID-19 deaths among older individuals than younger individuals is simply because every day in the U.S. older individuals die in higher numbers than younger individuals,” Briand said, reported the JHN.

Briand concluded that she has found “no evidence that COVID-19 created any excess deaths,” meaning that the number of deaths this year isn’t particularly higher than that of a normal year.

“If [the COVID-19 death toll] was not misleading at all, what we should have observed is an increased number of heart attacks and increased COVID-19 numbers. But a decreased number of heart attacks and all the other death causes doesn’t give us a choice but to point to some misclassification,” Briand said.

The JHN article was pulled down on Thursday without explanation. The student newspaper on Friday wrote on Twitter that the article was “being used to support false and dangerous inaccuracies” about the impact of the pandemic, and that they “regret that this article may have contributed to the spread of misinformation about COVID-19.”

Briand’s webinar, in which she explained her findings in detail with graphs, is still available on Johns Hopkins University’s YouTube channel by the time of this publication.

https://www.breitbart.com/heal...-stay-at-home-order/

Los Angeles County announced Friday a temporary stay at home order effective Monday that urges residents to avoid being with people not in their household.

“The temporary order will be in place for three weeks through Dec. 20 and will allow essential and emergency workers, and those securing or providing essential and permitted services, to leave their homes,”

In a press release, public health officials advised residents to stay home as much as possible and wear a mask when they are outside and around other people:

Additionally, it is very important that if you are even mildly sick or think you were exposed to someone with COVID-19 that you stay home and away from other people, especially those at greater risk of becoming seriously ill from COVID-19 and consider being tested for COVID-19.

To date, Public Health identified 387,793 positive cases of COVID-19 across all areas of L.A. County and a total of 7,604 deaths. Testing results are available for more than 3,681,714 individuals with 10% of all people testing positive.

“Acting with collective urgency right now is essential if we want to put a stop to this surge. Please remain home as much as possible and do not gather with others not in your household for the next three weeks,” she concluded.

The announcement comes two days after county officials banned outdoor dining, the KTLA report said.

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Originally posted by sigspecops:
Way back when Fauci said we need to lock down for two weeks I told my wife that this will never end. From now on we will never be without a health crisis of some kind.

After watching how quickly and completely many (most?) people accepted mask wearing and social distancing, but really more just the mandated lock down restrictions, I arrived at the same conclusion.

Once again, Rahm Emmanuelle's infamous strategy of "never let a crisis go to waste"...or my own addendum to it, if there is no crisis then manufacture one.

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Originally posted by a1abdj:

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Is everybody walking around with the flu without any symptoms??? You either have the flu or do not and this is the same thing to me.

I have read studies in the past that said that you can indeed be infected with the flu virus and never have any symptoms or symptoms that are so mild that you wouldn't consider yourself to have the flu.

Here's one that I just googled:

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/new...nfected-few-are-sick

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British researchers who tested people for influenza antibodies before and after each flu season for 5 years found that an average of 18% of them appeared to have contracted a flu infection each season, but only 23% of that group got sick, according to a report in The Lancet Respiratory Medicine.

Several years ago, after a lengthy hospital stay, I was discharged on the condition that I stay with some nearby family members while I continued to recover at home. I was hospitalized with non-flu health issues but received a flu shot in the hospital just a day or two before being discharged.

A day or so after staying with family, my nephew felt sick and a quick test with his doctor indicated that he had the flu, which he most likely got from me...which I most likely contracted while in the hospital.

I was feeling a little tired and run down, which could easily have been explained by my other health issues, but other than that I had no flu symptoms.