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Well, if you are not fed up with this nonsense yet, just wait. On one of her last pressers, Whitmer went on and on about another surge in cases because people traveled for Thanksgiving. Then she said the state will expect another surge when people get together for Christmas.
I believe this insanity will be with us for all of 2021.


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My work is preparing for the worst case scenario, they are considering paying people to stay home if they don't go anywhere, and will pay them OT if they do need to report. It's nuts we have had a few cases at work, mostly vendors and customers, not our actual employees.

I am new at the company, I need the experience, I don't want to be away from work, I want to grow. I guess I shouldn't complain, but I want the time on site, not the free money.



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Well, if you are not fed up with this nonsense yet, just wait. On one of her last pressers, Whitmer went on and on about another surge in cases because people traveled for Thanksgiving. Then she said the state will expect another surge when people get together for Christmas.
I believe this insanity will be with us for all of 2021.


How soon can Michigan be free of the Whitmer regime?




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Stuck with Witmer for another 2 years.


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Stuck with Witmer for another 2 years.


We re stuck with Beshear 3 more years.




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Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti on Wednesday issued new coronavirus lockdown restrictions as cases in the city continue to reach record highs.

The city's public health department has reported 414,185 total cases to date, including nearly 6,000 on Wednesday, less than a month away from Christmas.

"It's time to hunker down," Garcetti said in a Wednesday video announcing the new restrictions. "It's time to cancel everything, and if it isn't essential, don't do it. Don't meet up with others outside your household. Don't host a gathering. Don't attend a gathering."

The order, effective immediately, requires all city residents to stay home, unless engaging in a list of essential activities, and all businesses to cease operations.

Public transportation and gatherings are prohibited with the exception of gatherings for outdoor religious services and outdoor protests with social distancing and face masks.

Essential activities include health care operations, grocery store visits, farming, social services, media and music production, plumbing and electricity work and so on, according to the order.

"Our City is now close to a devastating tipping point, beyond which the number of hospitalized patients would start to overwhelm our hospital system, in turn risking needless suffering and death," a Wednesday public order from Garcetti reads. "These unfortunate facts about the spread of COVID-19 in our City mean that we must resume some of the more restrictive measures we instituted in the Spring."

Wednesday's order builds upon L.A. County's new "Safer at Home" order issued last week amid a surge in cases. Officials warned that restrictions could tighten if the county's five-day threshold of new cases surpassed 4,500.


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Anyone participating in this foolishness is complicit.
 
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Media and music production is essential? Ha! That right there tells you all you need to know. The lefty "entertainers" put enough pressure on the mayor to get excepted because of course they're all better than us peons and the world would just fall apart if they had to quit working. It's so transparent birds are flying into it.



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"Our City is now close to a devastating tipping point, beyond which the number of hospitalized patients would start to overwhelm our hospital system, in turn risking needless suffering and death," a Wednesday public order from Garcetti reads. "These unfortunate facts about the spread of COVID-19 in our City mean that we must resume some of the more restrictive measures we instituted in the Spring....
....that didn't accomplish shit short of destroying businesses and personal wealth, increasing drug addiction, increasing child abuse, and increasing suicides, and that we obviously didn't learn shit from". Yep, the Forrest Gump approach to governance...."Stupid is as stupid does."

Middle finger salute boys and girls, middle finger salute. Live your lives and tell the Garcetti's (you know, the filth and garbage) to [blank] themselves.


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Another reason I live in Mississippi. Reasonable young Republican Governor. No complaints. He still looks like a kid running for Student Council but he is doing a good job. Considerably brighter than he looks. I think he understands the impact of lockdowns on the economy and in particular small businesses.
 
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Tucson Mayor and City Council (Democrats) have mandated a 10pm to 5am curfew in city limits beginning this Friday.

They think the virus can read a clock? Roll Eyes
 
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Another reason I live in Mississippi. Reasonable young Republican Governor.

Happy to be living in Tennessee (also with a reasonable Republican governor) right now as well.
 
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If I shouldn't ask this, forgive me. Laziness is not what I am trying to achieve, but I am late to this thread and haven't read/searched through all of it.



What are the thoughts of the Sigforum doctors/"experts" on the use of HCQ and Zinc for COVID?


What are the thoughts on the general masking of the public?



Just to be open, I believe in HCQ+Zinc and I am dubious, at best, in regard to the general masking of the public. My wife was a doctor in Mexico for years (she loves Trump!) and agrees with me about the two issues.


Just want some additional insights and input. Thanks!
 
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So now we have a certified Serologic testing of Red Cross US blood donations to identify SARS-CoV-2-reactive antibodies, and that battery of testing shows widespread presence of SARS-CoV-2-reactive antibodies in donations made between December 2019-January 2020

What does this mean? It means that we’ve been lied to, & the latest evidence comes from samples collected during red cross blood drives last year & now analyzed by the CDC. Pay really close attention to these new facts

According to the new CDC findings 39 blood samples from the state of California Washington and Oregon between Dec 13 - Dec 16, 2019, showed SARS-CoV-2-reactive antibodies present and according to the experts it takes a minimum of 60-90 days for those to develop.

That means that Covid was present on the US continent as early as mid October if not earlier. Now officially the first COVID-19 infection was reported on Jan 19, 2020 in a male traveler returning from Wuhan China to Seattle.
If you recall, there were problems with testing in early 2020 because the reagent in the test kits in the national testing reserves, were faulty.

Now at the time no one in the US had even heard of COVID-19, and hell the WHO/China didn’t even acknowledge its existence until Dec 31, 2019 and yet every one of those 39 samples that tested positive for the coronavirus antibodies prove different. https://academic.oup.com/cid/a...cid/ciaa1785/6012472


If you want a copy of this study and not have to buy it, here's a free copy I have uploaded.

gofile.io/d/rIeGok

Here's my problem right off the top, y'all remember who Dr Robert Redfield is right? The director of the CDC since March 2018. How soon did this guy actually know that SARS-CoV-2 was present on US Soil? This main has consistently contradicted @realDonaldTrump in 2020

Historically the CDC during pandemics start checking blood supplies at the beginning of a suspected pandemic, not the end of it, they begin screen samples from, the major US Blood Banks that make up the strategic Blood/Plasma reserves in the US.

They check the American Red Cross, America's Blood Centers, Blood Centers of America, Alliance for Community Transfusion Services, and Vitalant (formerly Blood Systems Inc.). That gives them a baseline for ground zero for the disease in question.

So what happened here really? Why were the normal protocols not followed? Why has the Director of the CDC & the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, been flip flopping positions, resisting at every turn?

Redfield and Fauci have fought tooth and nail with the President. Said things behind closed doors then run to the media and contradicted White House announcements constantly, only to have to backtrack after the fact under scrutiny.

Was this a politically engineered & weaponized attack on the US Economy, that was historically booming, an attempt to grab power over a voter base that was finally seeing independence from Gov't, & to take down a sitting @POTUS sure to be re-elected?

The more I dig into this the more it all is now making sense and these Serologic test results are the key that puts all that's happened in 2020 come together to draw a picture of what really happened.

Reviewing this report it shows the CDC found more positive samples from blood test taken the beginning beginning at the end of December and they found them in many other parts of the country across the country Michigan Iowa Massachusetts.

So this wasn't just isolated to the West coast. Also analysis tests in other countries show earlier spread of SARS-CoV-2 spread to Italy as early as last September and then South America two months later in November
So clearly what we have been told for almost a year is not true, & why are we just getting this now a month after a presidential election? Answer, what was the NUMBER ONE Biden talking point against @realDonaldTrump? His handling of COVID-19!

What was the motivation for this mass mail in balloting scam the swamp inflicted on the taxpayers of the United States? COVID-19

We've had reliable SARS-CoV-2-reactive antibody tests readily available since this summer, & we're just now getting this info?

Also they want us to believe no one thought to test red cross blood samples until now? Sorry I'm just not buying it. This was weaponized against the citizens on the republic, damn the collateral damage, and what's a few losses, when a power grab is more important?

Why aren't elected officials demanding a coherent account of this in the United States and how it spread across our population when we now know that that all we've been told in the past was crap

It's like nobody seems to care or like the officials are too busy enjoying their newfound power people being able to shut down businesses at will when they feel like it, or corralling people like livestock and making them comply!

Back in January, 11 months ago DHS warned American airports could be ground zero for a new pandemic, and issued instructions for how to handle people incoming from China, but Congress ignored it and took no interest.

What was the motivation for this mass mail in balloting scam the swamp inflicted on the taxpayers of the United States? COVID-19

We've had reliable SARS-CoV-2-reactive antibody tests readily available since this summer, & we're just now getting this info?

Also they want us to believe no one thought to test red cross blood samples until now? Sorry I'm just not buying it. This was weaponized against the citizens on the republic, damn the collateral damage, and what's a few losses, when a power grab is more important?

Why aren't elected officials demanding a coherent account of this in the United States and how it spread across our population when we now know that that all we've been told in the past was crap

It's like nobody seems to care or like the officials are too busy enjoying their newfound power people being able to shut down businesses at will when they feel like it, or corralling people like livestock and making them comply!

He claimed it came from an animal, which we know now is crap. @SenTomCotton called him out on it, said it was nonsense, that it didn't come from bats or the Wuhan Wet Market, and the Swamp called him a conspiracy theorist and a nut job.

Back in January, 11 months ago DHS warned American airports could be ground zero for a new pandemic, and issued instructions for how to handle people incoming from China, but Congress ignored it and took no interest.

Dr Tony Fauci pushed back & reassured Americans you can trust the Chinese government wet market to contain the COVID-19 virus. But that’s not what happened & China has never been someone you trust especially what they are told us about this illness.

So Dr Fauci is basically a well functioning Chinese propagandist & @realDonaldTrump should make certain that he never work on public health policy again. China being transparent was a load of crap.

I tweeted back in Jan 2020 when a Harvard Professor & 2 Chinese Nationals were charged in 3 separate China related cases with attempting to smuggle 21 vials of biological research to Wuhan China, that it's possible a bio-weapon was being stolen.

Of course I was called a Tin Foil hat nutbag Trumper but that case was charged, indicted and vanished like a teenage girls virginity on prom night. Dr. Charles Lieber has faded into the white noise of the Pandemic
But what was Dr Charles Lieber research background? Lieber was a “Strategic Scientist” at Wuhan University of Technology in China. He later became a contractual participant in China’s Thousand Talents Plan from at 2011 thru 2017, all while tenured at Harvard.

So the DOJ charges Lieber with providing false statements and that's it? While two of his Chinese National PA's are caught walking out 21 vials of stuff at Boston Airport, mind you they'd been here working for him for two years, how many other runs did they make?

On January 8 2020 the Chinese government released a message thru the WHO “preliminary identification of a novel virus in a short period of time is a notable achievement and demonstrates Chinese increase capacity to manage new outbreaks"

In other words the WHO insinuates we should be thanking the government of China for their handling of COVID-19 they also said “an investigation was conducted by the Chinese authorities found no clear evidence of human to human transmission of COVID-19

More dangerous propaganda by the WHO & the Chinese, but did the media question any of this? Hell no, instead the American media as a group amplified the message, and tried to legitimize it.

Instead they were too busy labeling @realDonaldTrump a racist & xenophobe for calling it a Chinese virus that came from China. Not sure that fits my definition of racist. Even Joe Biden said it was Trump's fault that Americans were dying from the virus

The MSM kept saying it’s America’s fault for Trump's handling of it, and it’s your fault for not complying to our idiot mask mandates and shutdowns. Stop asking questions and just believe the Science!

Tom Cotton was right it had nothing whatsoever to do with that animal market. US media was covering it up, Australian television knew it had nothing to do with the pangolin or bats or the wet market.

Hong Kong scientist Dr. Li-Meng Yan believes the Chinese government knew about COVID-19 well before it claimed it did, Fox News interviewed her.

She said she knew that in her own country she would be punished possibly killed for saying so so she came here to to avoid that. But Twitter and Facebook sensored her story protecting the Chinese government she was exposing.

The Swamp was weaponizing this COVID-19 to seize back their power and influence the Presidential Election. Big Tech could not let the truth about COVID get out and make what Trump had been saying for months was true.
When the truth began to leak through the blacklisting, WaPo and Bob Woodward came with the Story that Trump tried to downplay how bad the Virus really was. Trump said he didn't want to cause panic, Biden said the public wouldn't have panicked

Of course I'm old enough to remember when there was almost two months you couldn't buy toilet paper or basic supplies! Guess what, it's happening again because of the media hype and the threat of lockdowns under Biden.

https://twitter.com/RoscoeBDav.../1334502381455896577



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From Marketwatch:

Wall Street could get a shot in the arm in the coming months, while much of Main Street waits months for their COVID inoculations.

Lenders, bank tellers and traders could jump ahead of most Americans for vaccines, after such remedies receive emergency authorization by the Food and Drug Administration, potentially putting financial industry workers ahead of those aged above 65, adults with medical issues and the rest of the U.S. population.

The American Bankers Association said it has asked for the CDC to designate financial services industry as “essential workers,” following guidelines issued by the Department of Homeland Security.

“We are encouraging public health authorities to follow the existing DHS guidance and include financial services employees as part of the 1b group, but we think front-line bank employees who deal with a large number of people every day should be gave priority to, at a minimum,” said Paul Benda, senior vice president, risk and cybersecurity policy at the American Bankers Association.

A vaccine will remain a distant hope for millions for several months, as major Western nations, including the U.S. and Europe, have struck deals with drugmakers for Covid-19 remedies, with initial supplies likely to be extremely limited at a time when cases of the deadly infection are spiking in many parts of the U.S.

{It reminds me of the saying that Bankers have the coldest hearts. This is laughable.}

LINK: https://www.marketwatch.com/st...cx_artPos=6#cxrecs_s
 
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Hong Kong scientist Dr. Li-Meng Yan believes the Chinese government knew about COVID-19 well before it claimed it did, Fox News interviewed her.

I have no doubt about this. None.




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A lot of people knew about COVID-19 before we did.
 
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^^^^ This! Politicians first to get poked in the arm.

For once in their miserable lives they should lead from the front and by example.


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Totally disgusting. My response to the lady in the video..."Don't look to government for help. You are the solution. Band together with all your fellow business owners, friends, neighbors, and family members, give Garcetti and Newscum the middle finger salute, and go back to living life with your customers. If all of you stick together, there is 'nothing' this political filth can do. Stand tall, stand strong, and make it happen." They can only take what you allow them to take from you.



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