Thanks kimber.

I will be applying for a medical and/or religious exemption but the the process and criteria won’t be published for a few weeks. On the assumption that my application will be denied, I’ll need to choose between retirement or the J&J shot. I’m guessing decision required by Jan 4 so time will be short. I’m trying to make decisions in advance for each possible outcome.

My hesitation with just retiring beyond the risk of doing it early is that i may be forced to get a shot anyway - to travel to Japan, to be treated at hospitals, to see dentist, whatever. Crazy is unpredictable.

I’m religious and I’m thankful for the right to be so; however, I shouldn’t have to claim it to refuse this shot.

If you have to plead exemption on religious grounds, your religious freedoms are next.

(I know it’s not helpful, but it’s frustrating because I have a coworker that is not religious, but says he’ll lie to say he is, in order to avoid the shot. What kind of overreaching government would allow this to continue? Why should we need to do any of this?!?)

It's official. I'm loosing my job over the gov contractor mandate.

I refused to comply then eventually filed for an exemption. I had low hopes for an exemption -- and it turns out so did my supervisor. In fact his hopes were so low that he began the process of replacing me.

Ironically, last week my exemption was granted but it turns out the replacement process had already moved too far along.

The upside is that with my exemption I have 3 months to 'on-board' my replacement instead of just being cut loose on Jan 1st.

I'm not happy about it, but I have the means to stand up and refuse this mandate so I did. Let's pray this is just the beginning of the story and this mandate will be revoked before more damage is done to people who don't have the means.

Getting an exemption allows you to keep your job.
It does not protect you from the “unconscious bias” while you continue to work.
I am certain that not going along with what the company wanted has hurt my future outlook.

Providing vaccination status and religious beliefs to my employer has definitely hurt the relationship as I am now viewed differently, as a ‘special person’ at least that’s my perception.

This is private information that none of us should have been forced to share.
Religious status should not be required to exercise freedom, in a free country.

Now I will be subject to weekly testing, which is not based on science or reality.
The vaccines are not working as advertised.
All should be treated equally, vaccinated, vaccinated but no booster, & unvaccinated alike.

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Originally posted by Yanert98:
It's official. I'm loosing my job over the gov contractor mandate.

I refused to comply then eventually filed for an exemption. I had low hopes for an exemption -- and it turns out so did my supervisor. In fact his hopes were so low that he began the process of replacing me.

Ironically, last week my exemption was granted but it turns out the replacement process had already moved too far along.

The upside is that with my exemption I have 3 months to 'on-board' my replacement instead of just being cut loose on Jan 1st.

I'm not happy about it, but I have the means to stand up and refuse this mandate so I did. Let's pray this is just the beginning of the story and this mandate will be revoked before more damage is done to people who don't have the means.

Then what grounds are they terminating you on? If your exemption was approved you should contact an attorney - especially if your replacement is significantly younger than you.

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Explain to your employer you are waiting for the vaccine under the Comirnaty label. Explain to them it is the only one approved by the FDA which comes with liability for the manufacturer should you experience adverse effects. All the others are used under the EUA and are experimental and come with no liability to the manufacturer.

It's astounding how many people do not know this health professionals included. The media has done a very good job at the sleight of hand of making people think the vaccine they are getting is FDA approved when only the one under the Comirnaty label is and it is somehow currently unavailable. It most likely will not make a difference to your employer but it may open their eyes some.

I have brought this up in conversations when the vaccine comes up. I explain to people I'm currently in the control group and am waiting for the Comirnaty vaccine to become available to which I possibly may agree to take. When you explain that Comirnaty is the FDA approved vaccine but currently unavailable they often get that look that they just realized they have been duped.

^^^Except there's this...

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Originally posted by kimber1911:
I need to correct something I had posted earlier.
I had believed that with the FDA Approved Comirnaty, Pfizer could be held liable.

Turns out All COVID-19 vaccine manufactures are protected from liability whether it be a fully approved vaccine or emergency use authorized vaccine.
Therefore, my point is still valid and in-fact more concerning.
If these vaccines are safe, drop the liability protections.

See Page 16 & 17
Link

And this...

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Originally posted by kimber1911:
Let us not forget the lies regarding “the same ingredients and formulation”.
This is mentioned in several FDA and .gov documents.

But now we know it is an untruth.
As for me given the choice, I would prefer the vial with gray cap and label with a gray border.
However at this time, I am choosing not to get vaccinated based on my sincerely held religious beliefs.




Link, see page 3

Both posted previously on p. 932

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Originally posted by konata88:

I've been trying to research adverse effects . . . Lots of scary reports but not sure what the incidence rate is - perhaps 1%? Less?

Rough ballpark incident rate for severe adverse reactions. Any different from normal flu shots?

It was six years ago that I had a "normal flu shot" in my doctor's office. I had taken the shots every year for twenty years or more, with no ill effects.

Not this time. A few weeks after the last flu shot, I woke up one morning with severe pain in my thighs, unable to move around without a walker. I was admitted to the hospital with Guillain Barré Syndrome. Hospitalized for over a week, two lengthy IVIG transfusions, months of outpatient physical therapy, and years later, I still have not recovered fully.

Less than 1%? Yup, but that's not much comfort when I'm in that tiny group.

Doc now has me on the no-fly list for most vaccinations.

You mean 2020, right?[/QUOTE]

I think 2019. All I know is my wife has never seen me sick for longer than 24 hours at a time in 35 years. Right before they came out with a name for COVID I was laid up in bed for more than two weeks. Felt like I was dying. That's why I believe I had COVID before COVID was named.

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Originally posted by phil in indy:
You mean 2020, right?

I think 2019. All I know is my wife has never seen me sick for longer than 24 hours at a time in 35 years. Right before they came out with a name for COVID I was laid up in bed for more than two weeks. Felt like I was dying. That's why I believe I had COVID before COVID was named.

I suppose that’s possible, although that’s nearly a full year before the world collectively lost its mind with COVID.

Even as the transmission and infection rates are higher than before there was a vaccine...
They blame it on the "unvaccinated"...

"Vaxx'd, Cured, Or Dead" - German Health Minister Hints At Jab Mandate; Merkel Fears "Highly Dramatic" Situation

After demonstrations erupted across Europe and more broadly across the globe over the weekend, outgoing German Chancellor Angela Merkel said Monday that the latest surge in European COVID infections is "worse than anything Germany has experienced so far" and called for more tight restrictions to try and stop the virus from spreading again over the holidays.

Merkel told officials from her Christian Democratic Party on Monday that the situation is "highly dramatic" and warned that hospitals would soon be overwhelmed unless the 4th wave of the virus is broken, according to a Bloomberg report.

The outgoing chancellor warned that many Germans don't seem to understand the severity of the crisis as cases have spiked across Europe.



Meanwhile, Health Minister Jens Spahn warned Monday that most Germans will be "vaccinated, cured or dead" from COVID in just a few months, according to Agence France-Presse, hinting at a potential vaccination mandate.

"Probably by the end of this winter, as is sometimes cynically said, pretty much everyone in Germany will be vaccinated, cured or dead," Spahn said, blaming "the very contagious Delta variant."

"That is why we so urgently recommend vaccination," he added.

As many have noted, many EU members, including Germany's neighbor Austria, have tightened restrictions amid what many are describing as a "fourth wave" of infections.

As for Germany, many of the country's famed outdoor Christmas markets have already been canceled for the second year in a row, and people who aren’t vaxxed face possible curfews, as well as other restrictions. The situation in hospitals is increasingly strained, with clinics preparing to transfer severely ill people to other facilities, according to the German intensive-care association DIVI.

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...ears-highly-dramatic

And yet, ignore the science:

A new German study reports a correlation between higher injection rates and higher EXCESS MORTALITY in sixteen studied countries. The researchers said:

“The correlation is + .31, is amazingly high and especially in an unexpected direction. Actually, it should be negative, so that one could say: The higher the vaccination rate, the lower the excess mortality. However, the opposite is the case and this urgently needs to be clarified. Excess mortality can be observed in all 16 countries…”

https://www.skirsch.com/covid/GermanAnalysis.pdf

Hospitals will be overwhelmed, you say?
Another wave of the virus, you say?

Goodness, that sounds serious.


These fucking people.

Anyone that still thinks these are unauthorized vaccines are safe or acceptable at this point has drunk too deeply from the Kool-aid jug. And for the record, forcing out FDA administrators that refused to authorize the Pfizer experimental inoculation without trials or the normal 7-12 year process for SAFETY and replacing them with compliant political hacks that would is not valid authorization. It’s just not.

Vtail - very sorry to hear your experience. Wish you the best. I'm trying not to be a statistic either.

Germany: 4th wave, 2 years of masks, distancing and vaccinations and things are getting worse. Maybe try something different, you morons? Whatever the heck you're doing, maybe it's not working? Vaccine - maybe it doesn't mean what you think it means?

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Maybe try something different, you morons? Whatever the heck you're doing, maybe it's not working? Vaccine - maybe it doesn't mean what you think it means?

The data coming in from around the world shows these “vaccines” do nothing to protect against the virus, regardless of how many times Fauci and his ilk spew the nonsense that their genetically modified mRNA shots “lessen the severity of COVID symptoms”. How does the continent of Africa, with a third world health care system have almost no Wuhan Coronavirus deaths? Best estimate is that maybe 6% of the population has taken the COVID shots, yet those countries are not dealing with a pandemic. Hmmm….wonder if the fact that hydroxychloroquine (used to treat endemic malaria there) and ivermectin (used to treat multiple different parasitic diseases) are used prevalently might have something to do with the low Covid rate in Africa?

If the shots were “safe”, then Big Pharma wouldn’t need blanket immunity from medical liability for side effects. And we wouldn’t be seeing over 18 THOUSAND vaccine-caused deaths in the US (per VAERS data as of Nov 2021).

If the shots were “effective” then the death rate wouldn’t be HIGHER since the fake vaccines came out versus prior to having them. And what sense does it make to claim – “You just need to keep getting a booster every 6 months” when the first 2 don’t have any efficacy at all?

The Australian Army is now removing people from their homes and placing them into quarantine "camps" in the Northern Territory:

WTAF, Australia?

Just when I think you can't get any more dystopian and dictatorial, you say "hold my Fosters"

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"Residents of Binjari and Rockhole no longer have the five reasons to leave their homes," said Northern Territory chief minister, Michael Gunner, referring to the country's five allowable reasons to avoid lockdown (buying food and supplies, exercising for up to two hours, care or caregiving, work or education if it can't be done from home, and to get vaccinated at the nearest possible location.

"They can only leave for medical treatment, in an emergency, or as required by law."

"It's highly likely that more residents will be transferred to Howard Springs today, either as positive cases or close contacts," he continued, adding "We have already identified 38 close contacts from Binjari but that number will go up. Those 38 are being transferred now."

Australian Army Begins Transferring COVID-Positive Cases, Contacts To Quarantine Camps

^^^
This is the democRAT pipe dream for the US. 2A is the only guarantee they would never try it.

^^^I wouldn't be surprised if they try it anyway! The results would be disastrous, but of course, they're blinded by 'Power Lust' and they don't care about or really ever consider the actual consequences.

In their sick, twisted ideology, the ends justifies the means if it perpetuates their 'Utopia at All Costs' crusade! Just think of what they could accomplish if they 'needed' to declare Martial Law. What comes after will be ugly, but don't think for a minute they're not considering it.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
^^^
This is the democRAT pipe dream for the US. 2A is the only guarantee they would never try it.

I would never have expected Australia to do much of what it's done the last few years, either. I would never have expected Austria, with its history, to do some of what it's done.

I would never have expected our Commander In Chief to essentially lobotomize our military's leadership. I would never have expected the once-vaunted FBI to turn into what it clearly has. I would never have expected our education system to turn into a brain-washing daycare or our "news" media to turn into a monolithic propaganda machine.

So you'll excuse me if I make no assumptions about the future.

Surely, the quarintine camps will provide some much needed re-education for the quests there.