I'm not trying to bring emotion into this thread, I just got dinged by this and needed to vent. Sorry I'm not trying to swing people one way or the other, I'm just fucked up by his death FYI I moved away from AM Falls decades ago but I do stay in touch with my friends.

I lost a 38 year old cousin and a 56 year old uncle to H1N1 in 2009 & 2010. Not even a single local news article written about it.

Florida Governor Reopens State – Removes Restrictions on Restaurants, Nullifies All Local Mask Ordinances, Blocks Fines and Penalties

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has moved the entire state into phase three of the COVID-19 recovery plan. All restrictions against restaurants and businesses are removed by executive order and all local mask ordinances are nullified by the same order.

♦ No COVID ordinance may forbid or impede any business from operating.

♦ No COVID ordinance may forbid restaurants to operate below 50% capacity. Any local ordinances against these operational thresholds are nullified.

♦ No local mask ordinances shall carry any weight of enforcement.

♦ No COVID Fines or Penalties may be applied toward any individual or business operating in the State of Florida. (executive order)

https://theconservativetreehou...fines-and-penalties/

His imperial Majesty, the pathetic, fear mongering governor of Texas declared that his subjects may return to 75% occupancy monday. The magic masks must stay on though. It's for our own good, don't you know.

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♦ No local mask ordinances shall carry any weight of enforcement.

I wish I knew what this means in the practical sense. For example, many businesses in my county are claiming masks are a government requirement when my county in fact voted down a mask requirement ordinance.

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♦ No local mask ordinances shall carry any weight of enforcement.

I wish I knew what this means in the practical sense. For example, many businesses in my county are claiming masks are a government requirement when my county in fact voted down a mask requirement ordinance.

Print a few copies of the governor's EO and carry them with you. When someone gives you crap about not wearing a mask, hand them a copy and "Walk on bye..." That's what I'll be doing here in Central Florida starting Monday.

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Ohio Mom Tased & Arrested At Middle School Football Game For Not Wearing Mask



https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...ame-not-wearing-mask

If ever there was a reason to protest the police, this is it. The woman is seated with her family away from other spectators.

You want to make some dumb rule, fine. Make the punishment being kicked out, or trespassed, if you refuse to leave, but to arrest someone over a mask? Fuck you.

I've taken some precautions against the virus, I limit my travel, wash hands, use sanitizer, even shopped while wearing gloves. I've chosen all of those things. You come up to me outdoors while completely isolated from others and tell me to put on a mask, I'm going to tell you to fuck off.

It's a free fucking country, I'd understand if 5% of people were dying from this shit, it's less than 1% and 70% (or much greater) are old or comprised in some way.

Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit.

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If ever there was a reason to protest the police, this is it. The woman is seated with her family away from other spectators.

You want to make some dumb rule, fine. Make the punishment being kicked out, or trespassed, if you refuse to leave, but to arrest someone over a mask? Fuck you.

It's not clear in the video or the stuff I have read about this incident, so a question; did the officer give her the choice to wear a mask or leave? If he just walked up and said, "You are under arrest for not wearing a mask", I agree, this is way over the line.

However, if he walked up and said, "Please wear a mask or leave, those are your choices." And she ignored him. Then that changes things.

^^Can't say, only context I have is the video.

They were outside, low population, and extremely distanced.

There was absolutely no reason to arrest that woman. None.

"Just following orders" is alienating the friendlies. It's designed that way. Threaten the officer with his job for trying to make a decision on his own, yet fire him if he follows training that ends politically unfavorable with the outcome.

We had a medical emergency yesterday in a state park out of cell phone range. The ranger had no mask on, couldn't give two shits about a mask, the police (the finest Tennessee has to offer) didn't give two shits about no mask and then the EMT's said the masks were bullshit, but were required to use them because of risk of transmission to patients.

The EMT's and the RN in the ambulance said the mask does absolutely nothing to prevent catching the virus as every last member of the teams have had it. All of them. Your either going to get it or you won't.

My own doctor said it's all propaganda bullshit when I got it and Tabitha has not.

The mask nonsense is about control....the lady had to be arrested because the other slaves might envy her freedom.

From a man whose family business (Sunset Restaurant in Glen Burnie, MD) had to close for good. I'm shocked to read this in the Washington Post.

https://www.washingtonpost.com...navirus/?arc404=true

Voices from the Pandemic

‘It’s like Trump said: The cure has been worse than the disease.’

as told to Eli Saslow
SEPTEMBER 26, 2020

I grew up inside this restaurant, and now my wife’s helping out in the dining room and my daughter’s working at the hostess stand. This is a family place — four generations and counting. I know every inch of pipe and wire we have running through here. I’ve been the plumber, the busboy, the handyman, the butcher, the bartender, the prep cook, the manager. I’ve done every job there is in this restaurant, and now I’m the one who has to shut us down.

It kills me. We were supposed to be getting ready to celebrate our 60th anniversary this year, and instead we’re packing up and closing at the end of this month. I’ll find another job, but it’s more than that. It’s home. These walls are like a family photo album. I try not to get too sentimental about it, because it won’t change a damn thing, but sometimes the stress hits me and my heart starts going like crazy. I get frustrated. It makes me angry. How does this whole situation make any sense? I don’t know a single person that’s gotten covid, and I know that’s probably lucky, but right now I can tell you about at least a dozen businesses going under and a few hundred people going broke.

I know this virus is real, okay? It’s real and it’s awful. I’m not disputing any of that. But our national hysteria is worse. We allowed the virus to take over our economy, our small businesses, our schools, our social lives, our whole quality of life. We surrendered, and now everything’s infected.

I like to believe this restaurant is resilient. We tried to outlast it. My father worked here five days a week until he died at age 82, so that’s in our DNA. When the governor first shut us down in March, I got together with my brother and my cousin, and we agreed to think of this as an opportunity. The restaurant was doing pretty good at that point. We had a little money to spend. We said: “Let’s reinvest back in the business like it’s supposed to be done.” We remodeled the entire bar. We put in new bathrooms and new draft lines. We gave a tour to a few of our loyal customers, and they said: “Wow. When this place opens up, you’re going to fill it every day. You’ll be back bigger than ever.”

At first the state was only allowing us do carryout. So, okay. We’ve got five dining rooms, 85 employees, and 13,000 square feet of space, and now you want us to operate like your regular old burger shack? How many people do you know who are willing to spend $40 on a lukewarm steak that’s traveled halfway across town? That’s not our typical business. We’re old school. We don’t have frozen hot wings that we heat up and toss in a cardboard box in five minutes. We buy the chicken fresh, cut off the fat, pound it out and bread it. Your wings take 25 minutes while you’re enjoying a conversation and a cocktail or two. But that’s the old world, right? What choice did we have? We redid our carryout menu to cut the prices down and teamed up with DoorDash and Grubhub. We created themed menus for Mother’s Day and Easter. We delivered charity meals out to the hospitals and opened up a crab trailer out front so we could sell by the bushel. We were spending $800 a week on carryout containers, and there’s no real profit in any of it. You lose out on booze. You don’t get the same tips. We kept hanging on through March, April and May, but our revenue was down more than 80 percent. We had to lay off 75 people. That’s 75 families dealing with unemployment and financial hardships, and not because a virus made any of them sick.

When the state opened up for outdoor dining, I ran out to every Costco in the area and bought any picnic table I could find. We got 20 for $150 a piece. We roped off the parking lot and put out buckets of cold beer. We tried to make it look nice, but it’s summer in Baltimore, and it’s 90-some degrees outside and you’re selling cream of crab soup to people who are sweating on the asphalt. Nobody really came. Why would they come? We stood out there for nine hours each day and we waited.

We got more creative. We kept on trying. We opened up at 50 percent capacity and had live music, themed dinners, mystery nights and a meal with a psychic. We reinvented this restaurant a dozen times, but none of it worked.

And what kind of support did we get? More rules. More restrictions. More regulations, mandates and curfews. We have to close at 10 p.m., because I guess maybe covid comes out at 10:01 — except apparently not at the casino down the road, because they have political leverage, and they get to stay open as long as they want. You can sit at our bar and have a drink, but you can’t get up and mingle, because that’s considered a health violation, so now I’m trying to serve you and police you at the same time. “Thanks for coming! We really need your business. Now put on your mask or sit the hell back down!” I have to buy disinfectants, individual ketchups, paper menus, and personal salt-and-pepper shakers or else I might get fined. My employees have to wear their masks all the time, even when they’re alone in an office, but meanwhile we have a group of 40 people in the dining room with no masks on, and that’s deemed safe because they’re drinking water? None of it makes any sense.

We had a customer come in the other day, and she couldn’t get seated because we had a few other tables, and we’d hit our 50 percent capacity in the one dining room she likes. I had to ask her to wait. I’d rather sit her down and take her money. I hate this rule, but now I have to enforce it. But she could see all the empty tables, and she didn’t understand it. She got mad and decided to call 911 and tell them we were over capacity. Two armed police officers came through here. The whole foyer was empty. There was nobody at the bar. I’ve got a max fire rating on the wall for 323 people, and they couldn’t count up to 100. I told them: “I dream about being over capacity, but I doubt it will happen again.”

It’s like Trump said: The cure has been worse than the disease. People spent too much time at home watching the news all day, drinking in this hysteria until they were spraying down their groceries and afraid to leave home. It became another anti-Trump thing in the press. The impeachment didn’t work, the killer bees didn’t work, so let’s blow covid out of proportion and see if it hurts him. But it’s the rest of us that got hurt. It was day after day of failure. It was a slow and painful death.

We went to see our accountant at the end of the summer. He looked over the numbers but he didn’t say much, and that’s not like him. I said: “What would you do?” He said the way things were going, we’d have nothing left to lose within a few months.

We made the decision right then. There wasn’t much to discuss.

Our last day is September 30th, and then we’re done.

A lot of people need to pay dearly for this. The Chinese tried to destroy our economy. They couldn’t. But the governors and mayors did.

It is those two groups of anti-American socialists that need to be lived up against a wall.

We can and will deal with the Chinese later and we will win. But we were destroyed by within from the very people that were supposed to be in our side.

Lines have been drawn. They will not be erased until the people that caused the problem have been erased.

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Voices from the Pandemic

‘It’s like Trump said: The cure has been worse than the disease.’

That's a painful read, but what's worse it's only one of 10's of thousands of stories, or millions of normal time clock punchers stories.

Just earlier today I was talking to my wife about how we were lucky and only lost $20,000, but still had money in the bank and jobs.

This whole thing has been complete BS it should have ended in May or June. I understand the extreme caution, but when the information came out that it's not as bad as initially feared, it them became political. The thought that they'd hold millions and millions of people hostage for political points makes me sick to my stomach.

The cure has been ten times worst than the disease.

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We went to see our accountant at the end of the summer. He looked over the numbers but he didn’t say much, and that’s not like him. I said: “What would you do?” He said the way things were going, we’d have nothing left to lose within a few months.

We made the decision right then. There wasn’t much to discuss.

Our last day is September 30th, and then we’re done.

What should make every person in this country furious is earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, and the like are totally unpreventable....this disaster on the other hand was completely preventable and was intentionally inflicted on the country for nothing more than political gain. The people responsible should be burned at the stake on the capitol lawn in Washington and every state capital on national TV for what they've done. No compassion and no second chances. Every single one of them.

new CDC study

for those who get the virus

COVID-19 SURVIVAL RATES (per CDC):

Ages 0-19: 99.997%
Ages 20-49: 99.98%
Ages 50-69: 99.5%
Ages 70+: 94.6%

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...down-regime-n2576983

SDY, I don't doubt those are real numbers but you now believe the CDC? I don't believe any stats they put out.

No US govt should have the power to do what they have done.

Why has fauci not been hanged?

So I had a debate with one of our docs (I work for radiologists) a week ago about timing to get the flu shot this year. Later to maintain efficacy later in the season vs. earlier to have it while all the unvaccinated folks are wandering about. He won, of course, actually got flu shot this morning.

Of course one of our other docs pops up today with this article. Who knows what to believe, but it's just more of 2020 man! In fairness, I'm probably as likely to die from the flu as the Wuflu, so meh, a tossup.

Proteins that contaminate influenza vaccines have high homology to SARS-CoV-2 proteins thus increasing risk of severe COVID-19 disease and mortality

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Influenza vaccines are manufactured using chicken eggs, canine kidney cells or insect cells. Chicken and dogs can be infected with numerous viruses including coronaviruses. Therefore influenza vaccines can be contaminated with coronavirus proteins. These coronavirus proteins of course have high homology to SARS-CoV-2 proteins. Further, we show that even chicken egg proteins have high homology to SARS-CoV-2 proteins. Influenza vaccine administration is known to create IgE mediated sensitization (allergy) to all proteins in the vaccine. In fact, vaccine-induced egg allergy is required for the vaccine to work and protect against influenza. This is because most influenza vaccines lack an adjuvant and they depend on the allergic reaction at the injection site to provide an adjuvant effect.

Upon COVID-19 infection, patients will suffer an allergic reaction due to cross reaction against SARS-CoV-2 proteins. This predictably produces anaphylaxis symptoms. Since the viral load increases over a few days, we have slow rolling anaphylaxis. The result is damage to multiple organs. Acute respiratory distress syndrome results from lung damage. Cardiac injury due to Kounis syndrome. Coagulation dysfunction, hypotension and shock are other possible outcomes. As in anaphylaxis treatment, epinephrine, histamine H1 and H2 blockers, etc. help prevent or treat these conditions.