Researchers surprised to find 20% of Chicagoans tested for coronavirus antibodies were positive

https://www.washingtonexaminer...bodies-were-positive



Researchers in Chicago were surprised to find that roughly 20% of the individuals who submitted blood for a recent study tested positive for coronavirus antibodies.

Nearly 1 in 5 Chicagoans who sent blood samples to Northwestern University researchers tested positive for the virus antibodies, according to the Chicago Tribune.

The infection rate of about 20% is higher than anticipated, especially compared to another study also from the Chicago area that showed a 5% antibody positivity rate.

“It’s telling us that exposure was higher than we thought, that it was higher than we thought throughout Chicago,” Dr. Elizabeth McNally, the director of the Center for Genetic Medicine at the Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine, said.

McNally says that the project, examining infection rates in five pairs of neighboring Chicago ZIP codes with widely different coronavirus positivity levels, has allowed researchers to draw some initial conclusions, even though testing is ongoing.

“It’s telling us that exposure was higher than we thought, that it was higher than we thought throughout Chicago,” McNally said.

An antibody study conducted in New York City earlier this year suggested that 25% of residents in the nation’s largest city were positive for coronavirus antibodies.

Our local liberal paper - which endorsed Biden in the same issue - has a huge front page article listing the names of the 1300 Iowans who have died of corona. The article includes some bios and photos.

Special report: Read these tributes to Iowans lost to coronavirus

More than 1,300 Iowans have died from the coronavirus. Each of them was a friend and a neighbor. Each of them left a mark on their families and their communities. Each of them deserves to be remembered as more than a number.

In an unprecedented partnership, nine Iowa newsrooms across two companies have come together to lift up these Iowans’ stories.

Here are those stories...
Complete article:

https://qctimes.com/news/local...ource=home-top-story

The broken media will spin up a terrifying second wave and talk of little else until the election. It's a final push for their broken candidates. Biden polls best on the virus issue...probably because of the hysterical propaganda these people peddle. We are witnessing a soft coup where an activist media marginalizes a candidate while actively promoting the opponent.

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Originally posted by oddball:
Only in CA (sorry to our members there) Thankfully he did not make this a law...yet.

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The office of California Gov. Gavin Newsom has told residents in the Golden State that if they go out to eat, they should be wearing a mask “ in between bites ” to protect themselves from COVID-19.

“Going out to eat with members of your household this weekend?” an Oct. 3 tweet from the governor’s office says. “Don't forget to keep your mask on in between bites.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...ia-govs-diners-masks

Governor Gruesome Nuisance. Most residents ignore him anyway.

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Does pot turn people into ardent leftists?

I call him a pothead because that is exactly what he is. His entire life revolves around getting high. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there leading productive lives that smoke it, but he is not one of them. My description is accurate.

WHO Flip-Flops: Urges World Leaders To Stop Using Lockdowns To Fight COVID Contagion

https://www.zerohedge.com/medi...ight-covid-contagion

In a stunning rebuke of the "science" and the "doctors" and leftist politicians and career bureaucrats in the US and across much of The West, The Epoch Times' Evan Pentchoukov reports that The World Health Organization’s special envoy on COVID-19 has urged world leaders to stop using lockdowns as the primary control method against the spread of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) virus, commonly known as the novel coronavirus.

“We in the World Health Organization do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus,” David Nabarro told The Spectator in an interview aired on Oct. 8.

“The only time we believe a lockdown is justified is to buy you time to reorganize, regroup, rebalance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted, but by and large, we’d rather not do it.”

[ZH: How long before this video is removed by Twitter?]

Nabarro pointed to the collateral damage that lockdowns are having worldwide, especially among poorer populations.

“Just look at what’s happened to the tourism industry, for example in the Caribbean or in the Pacific, because people aren’t taking their holidays. Look what’s happened to smallholder farmers all over the world because their markets have got dented. Look what’s happening to poverty levels. It seems that we may well have a doubling of world poverty by next year. Seems that we may well have at least a doubling of child malnutrition because children are not getting meals at school and their parents, in poor families, are not able to afford it,” Nabarro said.

“This is a terrible, ghastly global catastrophe actually,” he added. “And so we really do appeal to all world leaders: Stop using lockdown as your primary control method, develop better systems for doing it, work together and learn from each other, but remember - lockdowns just have one consequence that you must never ever belittle, and that is making poor people an awful lot poorer."

A number of medical or public health scientists and medical practitioners have signed the Great Barrington Declaration, which states that “current lockdown policies are producing devastating effects on short and long-term public health.”

The signatories include: “Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard University and a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring of infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations, Dr. Sunetra Gupta, professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine development, and mathematical modeling of infectious diseases, and Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professor at Stanford University Medical School, a physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy expert focusing on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations.”

“The most compassionate approach that balances the risks and benefits of reaching herd immunity, is to allow those who are at minimal risk of death to live their lives normally to build up immunity to the virus through natural infection, while better protecting those who are at highest risk,” the declaration states.

With few exceptions, world leaders followed in the footsteps of the Chinese communist regime when responding to the outbreak of the virus, imposing unprecedented lockdowns. Sweden, which did not impose a lockdown, did not experience an adverse outcome compared to some locales and nations that did.

In the United States, President Donald Trump delegated the decisions on lockdown measures to the governors of individual states, but has pushed for the economy to be reopened, and lockdowns lifted.

As William Anderson recently wrote for The Mises Institute, lockdowns only serve the progressive political class...

We have to understand that the political classes and their media have a vested interest in the lockdown status quo, and that includes regular provision of what only can be called disinformation. The mainstream media this past summer dutifully reported a highly questionable (I use that term charitably) report that the Sturgis Bike Rally in South Dakota led to more than a quarter million covid infections and more than $12 billion of medical costs. It should have been obvious on its face that the report was deeply flawed, yet in their desire to fuel the covid-is-killing-us narrative, journalists took this too-good-to-be-true story and ran with it.

As for politicians, the covid crisis has been a godsend for those governmental executives and bureaucrats who see constitutional restrictions that limit their authority as mere obstacles to be easily swept away. Governors such as Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan, Andrew Cuomo of New York, Gavin Newsom of California, and Tom Wolfe of Pennsylvania have received adoring coverage in the media for seizing and employing dictatorial powers, Whitmer even unilaterally deciding that the sale of garden seeds in stores was illegal. Cuomo’s decision to force the housing of covid-19 patients in nursing homes led to the deaths of thousands of people, yet his national media coverage is uniformly positive.

Contrast the affirmative news coverage of Cuomo with the barrage of media attacks on Governor Kristi Noem of South Dakota. Noem has emphasized personal responsibility and did not attempt mass closures of schools and businesses in the state, and the mainstream media erupted with fury. That South Dakota has come through this pandemic relatively well does not matter with the media, as the only acceptable action (to mainstream and elite journalists) in response to covid is for governors to single-handedly seize power and lock down their citizens.

Keep in mind that the real losses that Americans suffered because of the heavy-handed governmental response to the covid outbreak are permanent. As Robert Higgs so eloquently pointed out in Crisis and Leviathan, governments often create crises or, at the very least, they manipulate events such as natural disasters and use them as opportunities to expand governmental powers. Even after the crises end, governments keep some of their newly self-granted powers—and most people raise little or no concern even when government has curtailed more of their freedoms.

Presumably, this means Joe Biden will now be pushing for lockdowns to be lifted across all blue states?... because he is "listening to the scientists"?

^^^^^ If this is true it is very significant.

The CCP influenced WHO stood by and watched the rest of the world institute lockdowns like China did with Wuhan and greater Hubei, thereby crashing a significant part of the world economy, including China's biggest competitors. Now they say "WHOA MY BAD" and disavow lockdowns?

Bait and Switch? Do China's bidding to kill the rest of the world's economies as they miraculously "beat" the WuFlu with targeted lockdowns.

Do they think everyone is too stupid to make this connection? Looks we finally have the reason the left insists the lockdowns are so essential regardless of actual science. It's what China wants, and is probably paying for...

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I thought this was the Covid thread, not the "we debate weed for the 5,763,924th time" thread.

Nope, now it's the defend weed for the 5,763,925th time" thread.

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“It’s telling us that exposure was higher than we thought, that it was higher than we thought throughout Chicago,” McNally said.

Ok, I'm just gonna come out and say it, that doctor is a moron. The big takeaway from that study (assuming the results thus far are accurate) is that the virus has spread farther than they thought, has been far less fatal overall than they thought, and far more Chicagoans have antibody protection at this point than they thought. All of that is terrific news for everyone except those hellbent on spreading panic porn. It also once again highlights that the 'experts' don't know jack crap about this virus.

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Our local liberal paper - which endorsed Biden in the same issue - has a huge front page article listing the names of the 1300 Iowans who have died of corona. The article includes some bios and photos.

Special report: Read these tributes to Iowans lost to coronavirus

More than 1,300 Iowans have died from the coronavirus. Each of them was a friend and a neighbor. Each of them left a mark on their families and their communities. Each of them deserves to be remembered as more than a number.

In an unprecedented partnership, nine Iowa newsrooms across two companies have come together to lift up these Iowans’ stories.

Here are those stories...
Complete article:

https://qctimes.com/news/local...ource=home-top-story

They do the same thing for all the Iowans that have died from auto accidents? If not, why? Are they not just as dead? Are their lives somehow less important? The media needs to be beaten severely for the BS they've pulled regarding this virus.

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Ok, I'm just gonna come out and say it, that doctor is a moron. The big takeaway from that study (assuming the results thus far are accurate) is that the virus has spread farther than they thought, has been far less fatal overall than they thought, and far more Chicagoans have antibody protection at this point than they thought. All of that is terrific news for everyone except those hellbent on spreading panic porn. It also once again highlights that the 'experts' don't know jack crap about this virus.

No need to read the 600 plus pages in this thread.
This comment sums it up nicely!

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Our local liberal paper - which endorsed Biden in the same issue - has a huge front page article listing the names of the 1300 Iowans who have died of corona. The article includes some bios and photos.

^^^^^^^^^
I thought important athletes and movie stars were the only ones mentioned. (sarcasm}. When I lived in rural Wisconsin the radio station would read the names of OUR KNOWN HOSPITALIZED. Good old days before HIPPA>

My daughter just sent me this from an Australian news website. And then she found it on the NY Post (usually a conservative paper). But I cannot find anything about it on CNN, MSNBC, PBS or any other Fake News Media. I'll bet their editorial staffs are scratching their XXX's trying to figure out what to do about this. USA Today mentioned it, but took a couple of paragraphs out of context from the WHO statement and put it in an article about how bad things were in several states.

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
WHO Flip-Flops: Urges World Leaders To Stop Using Lockdowns To Fight COVID Contagion

https://www.zerohedge.com/medi...ight-covid-contagion

In a stunning rebuke of the "science" and the "doctors" and leftist politicians and career bureaucrats in the US and across much of The West, The Epoch Times' Evan Pentchoukov reports that The World Health Organization’s special envoy on COVID-19 has urged world leaders to stop using lockdowns as the primary control method against the spread of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) virus, commonly known as the novel coronavirus.

The next question for the WHO should be:

Were you lying before or are you lying now, or is this yet another extension of the ongoing lie?

^^^ the answer is yes.

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Originally posted by ranger312:
My daughter just sent me this from an Australian news website. And then she found it on the NY Post (usually a conservative paper). But I cannot find anything about it on CNN, MSNBC, PBS or any other Fake News Media. I'll bet their editorial staffs are scratching their XXX's trying to figure out what to do about this. USA Today mentioned it, but took a couple of paragraphs out of context from the WHO statement and put it in an article about how bad things were in several states.

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
WHO Flip-Flops: Urges World Leaders To Stop Using Lockdowns To Fight COVID Contagion

https://www.zerohedge.com/medi...ight-covid-contagion

In a stunning rebuke of the "science" and the "doctors" and leftist politicians and career bureaucrats in the US and across much of The West, The Epoch Times' Evan Pentchoukov reports that The World Health Organization’s special envoy on COVID-19 has urged world leaders to stop using lockdowns as the primary control method against the spread of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) virus, commonly known as the novel coronavirus.

So they were for lockdowns before they were against them. Hmmm, where have I heard such a thing before? That's right, from a lying politician. The WHO's position is irrelevant at this point given they have zero credibility.

https://www.syracuse.com/coron...raise-for-walsh.html

Seven takeaways from Cuomo’s new book: Upstate NY’s ‘unkind gesture,’ praise for Walsh

Updated 10:56 AM; Today 10:56 AM

By Kevin Tampone | ktampone@syracuse.com

Albany, N.Y. — Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s new book on the coronavirus pandemic is full of red meat for the governor’s supporters.

There are slights aimed at New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, plenty of Trump bashing and insidery moments that will appeal to fans of Cuomo’s briefings on the pandemic. The book, “American Crisis: Leadership Lessons from the Covid-19 Pandemic,” is out today.

Here are seven takeaways of interest to Syracusans and other Upstate New Yorkers.

The ventilator problem: It seems so long ago, but back in March and April, Cuomo talked about ventilators nearly every day. The state was on a hunt for thousands of the devices it expected to need when the pandemic peaked. A part of Cuomo’s plan to fill that need involved an order allowing the state to shift ventilators and other equipment from hospitals with fewer Covid-19 cases to those that were overwhelmed.

That led to chatter about Downstate grabbing needed gear from Upstate and the term “Upstate Lives Matter” even began making the rounds, Cuomo noted in his book. He also said one hospital system in Western New York refused to give up its ventilators, which he describes as an “unkind gesture” that “threatened the spirit of cooperation” he was trying to build.

But Cuomo praised a Capital Region nursing home that offered up its ventilators after word of the hospital’s “selfishness” became public.

“I had been trying to talk to the angels, and the angels were winning; then some politicians saw an opportunity to get the devil all fired up,” Cuomo wrote. “The devil lost at the end of the day.”

Syracuse mentions: Early in the book, Cuomo singles several county executives and mayors for praise. Syracuse Mayor Ben Walsh was among them. Cuomo said Walsh, Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown and Rochester Mayor Lovely Warren were all capable of handling the coronavirus situation well.

He also recalled his trip to Syracuse in April when a crowd of cheering nurses and doctors greeted him at the State University of New York Upstate Medical University.

“It was moments like that, and they happened all over the state, that made me realize all New Yorkers were in this together,” Cuomo wrote. “It gave me great strength to go on.”

Upstate conservatives: Most politicians in New York were helpful and eager to cooperate with the state’s response to the pandemic, Cuomo wrote. In fact, he said they were probably happy to let the state take the lead since the news was so bad. He did say he knew he’d have to deal pushback from “harsh conservative elected officials in Upstate New York who followed the Trump doctrine of denial.” Protests calling for a faster reopening became frequent sight at the Capitol and governor’s mansion.

But Cuomo also noted that a larger Upstate-Downstate divide never really occurred. He wrote New Yorkers showed they were capable of “more goodness and more strength than they knew.”

On President Trump: Cuomo talks about Trump in the book a lot. He accuses him of stoking division and criticizes his administration’s overall response to the pandemic.

“Trump never pretended to be a leader who could bring the country together in a moment of national crisis. In fact, I believe he relished his role as ‘divider in chief.’ It fit his personality. He was angry and resentful, and he communicated it. Nor did Trump ever suggest he believed in government capacity or that he himself could provide government stewardship.”

Ultimately, it was Trump’s son-in-law and adviser, Jared Kushner, who delivered for New York, Cuomo wrote. He called him attentive and productive and said he was the person who eventually produced protective equipment, ventilators and military personnel for the state.

On nursing homes: Cuomo has faced repeated criticism over how the state handled Covid-19 in nursing homes. Thousands died and in the book, Cuomo called it the most painful aspect of the entire crisis.

But he said criticism of the nursing home response in New York, New Jersey, California and other Democrat-led states was a ploy by Republicans to distract from their botched response to the pandemic. Critics, he wrote, have misstated law and policy to make it seem like the state was at fault for spreading the virus in nursing homes. He called that charge a lie.

He does acknowledge the nursing home situation was distressing and wrote the state could have stopped visitation sooner. Cuomo also said a more robust federal response on testing and early warning about the pandemic was needed.

His live test: One of the more memorable moments from Cuomo’s run of daily briefings on the virus was when he took a coronavirus test live in front of the cameras. The test involves a swab inserted into the nose, which can cause some eye watering, coughing or sneezing. In the book, Cuomo said his staff told him a bad reaction could set progress back months on testing. Though he came through the test with no problems, Cuomo admits he wasn’t sure he could do it. He wrote it felt like the nurse who performed the test was aiming for the back of his head and acknowledged he felt disquieted beforehand.

On de Blasio: Cuomo’s relationship with de Blasio has been dissected and analyzed for years. He wrote in the book that they were (past tense) personal friends once, but that there’s always a certain amount of tension between a New York City mayor and the state’s governor. He wrote there are real issues between them now, more philosophical than personal.

In the book, Cuomo claimed credit for helping to calm rioting and looting in New York City after the death of George Floyd by threatening to displace the mayor and bring in the National Guard. The night after the threat, things began to improve, Cuomo wrote. He also wrote that de Blasio was quick to make public pronouncements about the city’s response to the pandemic, even though he had no authority under the law to do so.

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Critics, he wrote, have misstated law and policy to make it seem like the state was at fault for spreading the virus

Huh. Similar to how the left is making it seem as if Trump was at fault for spreading the virus?

CNN goes after Pelosi ?????




seen at CTH

Blitzer hangs in there. All the way to the end.

Pickled Pelosi is such a lying bitch! Glad to see Wolf sack up a bit.