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Well, just found out a high school football teammate of mine is in ICU with Covid.


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I'm ok when the Pres calls it the Chinese Virus. It kind of fits, as an hour after you recover you're reinfected.

(I can get away with that one, being half Chinese! Cool)



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Does Chris Cuomo really have the Coronavirus or does he just want to be in the running for a participation trophy?

Seems pretty talkative for someone with a respiratory virus.

No life lost is acceptable, therefore we should just close down the economy and restrict travel.
The hospitals are empty, except for those with the Chinese virus.
Car accidents have nearly been eliminated.
The number of lives saved is astronomical.
Maybe we all should just sit home and have the government send money each month.
Just imagine the number of lives we would be saving.



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Well, just found out a high school football teammate of mine is in ICU with Covid.


How old is he?
 
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It’s really unfortunate that we can’t trust a single thing out of China anymore. Hopefully people’s eyes open because of this shit storm and we remember that China can’t be trusted for anything. They could have prevented this whole pandemic had they just not been a bunch of shitbags and told the truth instead of covering it up.

Well, it's cold comfort, but maybe their being so utterly full of shit will catch up with them.

Remember how they tried to offset the fact that the virus (by all indicators) originated in Wuhan, China by donating masks and other equipment to a number of countries? Turns out the masks are defective. What does Xi have to say in response? "Those masks aren't defective - you just need to go back and read the instructions again to determine whether or not you have the right type of mask and are using it properly!"

Right. The government of the Netherlands didn't know what it was doing when it recalled 600,000 of the 1.3 million Chinese masks it received. The government of Spain didn't know what it was doing when it found that 60,000 of the 340,000 test kits that it bought from China did not accurately test for Kung Flu. No, they needed the Premier of the People's Republic of China to tell them to read the instructions.

Chinese Government Rejects Allegations That Its Face Masks Were Defective, Tells Countries To 'Double Check' Instructions
David Choi, Buisness Insider 4/2/2020
http://www.yahoo.com/news/chin...-face-192334486.html

At some point in this crisis China will have been so full of it so many times that no one will even pretend to believe China's claim that the Kung Flu didn't originate in China.
 
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Originally posted by kkina:
I'm ok when the Pres calls it the Chinese Virus. It kind of fits, as an hour after you recover you're reinfected.

(I can get away with that one, being half Chinese! Cool)


I'm not half Chinese and I have zero problems calling it Chinese/Wuhan Virus. As Trump said it's where it came from.

I refuse to follow the MSM/CCP propaganda. I can't believe they hate the President so much they are willing to carry water for our enemies.



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I see everyone has accepted the name covid like the Chinese propaganda wants us to do.

The name of the disease that is killing people is COVID-19

The name of the Wuhan virus is SARS-CoV-2.




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We need more banjo.


I wouldn't object.

I did realize that wat that Steve Martin. If he had an eye patch on, I would have instantly recognized him.


Google him on the Letterman show and Dueling Banjos. He's got serious talent.


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"...Pharmacists have been managing shortages for 20 years now," Ganio noted. "We've become creative, we've been able to manage most things where frontline practitioners don't realize that there is a shortage."

"We'll figure it out," he said.


^^^^^

It's not just these types of meds, I went to refill my Asthma Rx today and they were out and didn't know if they would be geting any in on Monday. They told me people are filling one month under their insurance and paying cash for another month. My MD and I expected this so he called in two types, my normal and a more expensive type. I got the more $$$$ version.


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Something else sad to see - many hospital administrations are are not supporting their nurses, aides, techs, etc. Even though there is a shortage, it is turning into you do what we tell you, when we tell you, how we tell you and do not complain even privately or you are fired.


Based on what I have heard directly from my live-in nurse, that is exactly the case, to the letter.

There has been a specific directive to personnel NOT to talk to anyone about the situation in the hospital.

Say nothing about equipment shortages or gross violations of previously standing policies, shifts in policies sometimes more than one time in a single shift, etc.

Based on my network, I would say I hear reliable info from 3 hospitals in this area, and it's all largely in agreement.


I suspect many new unions will be formed after this settles and the hospitals will not like the contracts.


This is a common policy for any large company. They all want to have control of the narrative and violation is typically grounds for dismissal. Recent hires must agree to such.




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Well, just found out a high school football teammate of mine is in ICU with Covid.


How old is he?


Probably 50.


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Big brother is watching where you're going....

https://www.clickondetroit.com...g-covid-19-pandemic/




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I think they belong to big pharma.
Why use existing and proven drugs when we can spend billions investing in research using our money.

Rule number 1: follow the money. Right?


WHAT existing and proven drugs? There aren't any.

Based on reporting, virtually all of the pharmacological research being done right now is either (a) trying to establish whether any existing drugs are safe and effective treatments or (b) trying to develop a vaccine.

The benefits of a vaccine are obvious, but equally obviously, this is a new virus and we don't have one yet.

As far as drugs for treating active infections go, we have a whole lot of drugs for fighting bacterial infections, and they tend to be fairly broad spectrum (i.e., one drug works across a lot of different bacteria). We have relatively few antiviral drugs, and they are MUCH more specific.

Scientists all over the world are testing every existing drug anyone has any credible reason to think might possibly be effective.

That includes several drugs that showed promising early results in treating MERS and the 2003 SARS, which are similar coronaviruses (this includes hydrochloroquinone and several antivirals). But SARS and MERS were stopped very early (SARS: ~8000 confirmed cases, MERS: ~2500 confirmed cases) and the efficacy of those drugs was never fully established.

Early results on some of those drugs are promising. A number of them are effective at stopping viral reproduction in petri dishes, and some of those have some promising initial results in human testing, and are now undergoing more thorough trials to PROVE they are actually effective treatments for infected people.

That is being done at an INCREDIBLY accelerated pace compared to the usual process for testing new uses of drugs.

There are plenty of people calling for that testing to be skipped and just to start handing out the drugs. The problem with that is that the drugs can have significant side effects, might have some unknown, unpredicted negative interaction with COVID-19 infections, and might not be as effective as the informal testing done so far suggests. In short, it's POSSIBLE that just giving those drugs to everyone who is infected could actually make things worse overall than not giving them, and we want to be reasonably sure that's not the case before we start giving them to tons of people.


Z-PAK and hydroxychloroquine has been reported by numerous physicians as being effective if given early enough. Is it 100% effective? No. Nothing ever is though.
 
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Bad news: Not only has the share of critical cases now risen to 5.9 percent (ca. 3,400 out of 58,000), but we got nearly 6,200 newly established infections yesterday again after the sub-5,000 numbers of previous days - though still on a generally downward trend from the peak of 6,900. Good news: The German Hospital Society estimates that number of ICU beds has now increased from 28,000 to nearly 40,000 nationally, three quarters of which equipped with ventilators by reactivating old devices, procuring new ones, and repurposing some from post-OP recovery rooms etc. Free bed capacity thus still 15-20,000. By now we're starting to take in patients from the Netherlands, which also seem to run into capacity limits; their policy has been similar to the UK's, first letting it run before turning about and also imposing restrictions.


I wish I knew how people manage to embed the Worldometer graphs. While the daily numbers of new infections haven't dropped as much as I hoped, a pattern becomes visible: about three days of much shorter bars due to weekend lag followed by an uptick again as previously unreported cases are added, but not so high as the previous peak. Combined with the increase in national ICU capacity, there is general optimism now that we will cope, even as the German CFR has gone up considerably over the last days.

I fully expect it to temporarily reach three percent or so at one point like currently in Switzerland, which is my new watchcase now after Italy and Spain (France, the UK and Netherlands already being firmly in the "trouble" camp; France is moving patients out of the Paris area by repurposed high-speed trains as local capacities are overwhelmed despite nearly doubling the original number of ICU beds).

US - 7,403 : 277,522 = 2.7 %

Italy - 14,681 : 119,827 = 12.3 %

Spain - 11,198 : 119,199 = 9.4 %

Germany - 1,275 : 91,159 = 1.4 %

France - 6,507 : 82,165 = 7.9 %

UK - 3,605 : 38,168 = 9.4 %

Turkey - 425 : 20,921 = 2.0 %

Switzerland - 604 : 19,702 = 3.1 %

Belgium - 1,143 : 16,770 = 6.8 %

Netherlands - 1,487 : 15,723 = 9.5 %

Canada - 208 : 12,549 = 1.7 %

Austria - 168 : 11,589 = 1.4 %

South Korea - 177 : 10,156 = 1.7 %

[Portugal, Brazil, Israel]

Sweden - 358 : 6,131 = 5.8 %
 
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benny6: How you doing brother? You are the only known positive on the board that I know of. Hoping you are still well.


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benny6: How you doing brother? You are the only known positive on the board that I know of. Hoping you are still well.
He posted in his M1 Garand build topic. He is our Josie Wales now so no 10 men.. Big Grin. Besides, I think he is a US Marine so not even a fair fight against the killer virus.
 
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Interesting read here: https://www.usatoday.com/story...d-column/2898324001/

Basically says its to late to contain COVID so let’s get back to life and deal with it. As soon as we end shelter in place the virus comes back. We are quickly approaching the point of no return for the economy for many millions of people. Time to improve the healthcare system at the state level and get healthier as a society.

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Good news??

On Friday Dr. Deborah Birx, the U.S. coronavirus response coordinator, praised California and Washington state for their social distancing efforts, claiming that they may have already slowed the spread of the virus and should serve as models for the rest of the nation.

“We really do appreciate the work of the citizens of California and Washington state, because we do see that their curve is different,” Birx said at the daily White House briefing. “Their curve is different from New York, New Jersey and Connecticut — and we really believe that the work that every citizen is doing in those states is making a difference.”

Nationally, the numbers have been devastating. More than 273,000 confirmed COVID-19 cases across the United States, with a staggering 100,000 in New York alone. A death toll — roughly 7,000 at last count — that has already doubled 9/11’s. And grim new estimates from the Trump administration that predict the deadly pathogen could eventually kill between 100,000 and 240,000 Americans — assuming the U.S. does everything right.

Yet in recent days, a few bright spots have started to flicker amid the statistical gloom. They come from various sources: internet-connected thermometers; smartphone GPS data; a study by private researchers in Bellevue, Wash.; state-by-state projections from the University of Washington; reports from hospitals in the San Francisco Bay Area.

All of this new information points to the same hopeful, if tentative, conclusion. In areas of America that caught the coronavirus early in its trajectory — and quickly implemented the sort of strict, sweeping social distancing measures recommended by public health officials — the curve may be starting to bend. The virus may be starting to spread more slowly. Staying home may be starting to work.

And as Birx has been telling the public all week, the two states to watch are Washington and California. For now, only 8 percent of COVID-19 tests there are coming back positive — compared to 35 percent in New York and New Jersey, 26 percent in Louisiana and 15 percent in Michigan, Connecticut, Indiana, Georgia and Illinois.



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