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Oh stewardess, I speak jive. |
Always liked him. Spot on. | |||
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They shut down an entire High School for 6 positive cases in Orange County FL! 6 cases. Our daughter's school sent a note home that they had 1 positive case and contract traced it to 50 other kids - so far no talks of closing the school. Meanwhile Florida State's President keeps threatening to close the school to on campus classes and send them home if they don't stop being college kids - apparently over 800 cases have cropped up. "Nation of Cowards" is right... | |||
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Savor the limelight |
I talked with the principal of school my 5th and 7th graders go to before making the decision to send them back to school. He assured me the school would not shut down unless there was a mandate from the governor. That seemed reasonable to me. There's a point where if enough teachers and kids are out that closing the school would make sense, but 6 kids isn't it. Subs are in short supply in my county. Subs don't get paid much, many are retirees, and I'm sure many have made the decision that it just isn't worth the risk. | |||
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I read the Fox News version of that & the "researchers" in San Diego found that there was a huge increase in covid cases related to Sturgis, but not from any previous large gatherings, like BLM rallies, or protests.This message has been edited. Last edited by: parabellum, ------------------------------------------------ "It's hard to imagine a more stupid or dangerous way of making decisions, than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong." Thomas Sowell | |||
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Left-Handed, NOT Left-Winged! |
My son's high school in suburban Indianapolis opened a little over a month ago. There were some cases of students testing positive, and they went back to home based for a week or so, then to partial weeks - some days home some days at school, on an alternating schedule to keep the school 1/2 full at any given time. The frustrating part is there is no info. We get a notification of a positive test, but it's a form letter. There is no follow up - no info as to the number of "cases" that are actually symptomatic, no info about the severity of any symptomatic cases, or recoveries. It has been stated that young people, especially college age, overestimate their chances of dying from the virus by a huge amount - like 100x or 1000x more than reality. If for example they announced that no "cases" led to symptoms, that would calm a lot of people. Or if they said that those with symptoms have mild flu for a few days and get over it. I'm sure this is the case though. So I just think they need to suck it up, stay open, and do the best they can to avoid transmission, but not to freak out. Just treat it like a Chicken Pox breakout from when I was a kid. Yep, kids are "living in fear of being shot in school" even though deaths in school are extremely rare and kids are safer from being killed in school than at home. Safer than outside ether, and much safer than when driving a car (wrt car accident deaths). Kids are in fear of the "existential threat to the earth" caused by the "consensus" of a warming of 1 degree C over the next 100 years, even though there is absolutely zero ability to project weather changes that far into the future, much less into the next month. The as Anxiety and depression are way up, so are associated prescriptions for psychoactive drugs. Seems it's all just indoctrination to get them to follow the anti-gun, anti-energy mantra of the far left. Sadly, for a lot of young adults, it seems to be working. | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
Ironbutt, if ever you do that again in this forum, you will regret it. | |||
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Schools and Universities are free to make their own decisions about quarantine and closing. There is no question that there are different standards. | |||
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The guy behind the guy |
I've been tracking the CDC death totals and charting them daily for a while now. The data is clear, the US is essentially now back to normal weekly death totals. We can come out of quarantine 100%. | |||
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Our mountain community is still under crud restrictions as far as schools, banks, restaurants, bars, movie theaters, athletic and entertainment events, etc. Most stores require or strongly urge masks. The ironic part is our county has only had 2,400 cases reported since the beginning and 70 deaths, many of which may have been over reported. It's one of, if not the lowest effected counties in AZ. As a comparison, Maricopa County (metro Phoenix) is 9,224 square miles with over 4,000,000 residents while our county is 8,128 square miles with 235,000 residents, but we all lumped into the crud restrictions. | |||
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Lighten up and laugh |
They think they have the President again because of the Woodward interview where he said he wanted to play it down. Yeah, that's what leaders do. I'm so freaking sick of this crap. | |||
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Political Cynic |
and yet n one is talking about that...they're all talking about an 'October Surprise' and I imagine if one doesn't magically appear, one will be fabricated | |||
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The guy behind the guy |
To be more clear about the total death numbers, we should expect to see somewhere between 52k and 60k deaths per week from now until the end of the year. The weekly deaths tend to start raising around this time year over year. Of those total deaths, 2-3% are COVID right now. The high point of % was in the middle of April when 20-25% of the deaths were due to Covid. It will be interesting to see if that 2-3% stays low as we get closer to the end of the year. But right now, we are basically right at the 5 year average for weekly deaths this time of year. The data would certainly indicate the total COVID death count is fairly accurate, but it also indicates very few people are dying from it anymore. | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
Well, Los Angeles has banned Halloween. LA County has banned door-to-door trick or treating, Halloween parties with friends, Haunted houses, carnivals, etc. But online parties are allowed. https://fox59.com/newsfeed-now...ict-halloween-rules/ "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
The pandemic is history A curious but fortunate characteristic of virus epidemics is their limited lifespans. No one knows why, but guesses include herd immunity and mutations of the virus. The following graph from the Centers for Disease Control and the National Center for Health Statistics shows the time profile of the COVID-19 weekly death counts from February onward. (For an interactive version of the graph go here.) In the U.S., the virus got underway in March. For the week ending March 14 the total number of deaths nationwide was 52. During the following month the number of deaths increased rapidly, peaking in the week ending April 18 at a count of 17,026. From that time onward, the death count declined rapidly to a weekly number of 3,684 in late June. A second “wave” began in July. The peak of that second wave was 6,794 deaths during the week ending July 25. After that a steeper decline commenced and accelerated. The peak death count for Americans under age 25 was 28 (for the week ending April 11) and has been under that number since. Only a single death occurred in that age group during the latest reported week, and there were no deaths recorded in the 25-34 age group. Virus epidemics behave differently than virtually all other diseases. If you graphed timelines of the number of cancer deaths, fatal heart attacks, and fatal strokes, those timelines would be virtually flat. Virus epidemics, however, have relatively short time profiles, like what we’re seeing with COVID-19. There’s nothing unusual about the fact that the coronavirus death count is dying a natural death. That should have been anticipated, and it should now be widely publicized. Why are we pretending not to know this good news? These facts are easy to find. We ought to be celebrating like we did when WWII ended. This COVID-19 death profile is extremely significant yet is almost totally ignored by the media. Their focus is on cases, not deaths. The number of cases has not decreased as rapidly as the number of deaths. Only a small percentage of cases now ends in death, and the death count is vastly more important than the case count. The case count may linger, but that problem is becoming increasingly manageable. The latest reported weekly death count (August 29) was 370. That’s out of a population of 330 million people. In a single week, between August 8 and August 15, the number of deaths dropped 85 percent (from 3,169 to 455). The COVID-19 death rate in the U.S. is now barely more than one per million and dropping like a rock. Coronavirus deaths are currently half the number of weekly vehicle fatalities. We’re now seeing the pandemic in our rearview mirror. Read more: https://www.americanthinker.co...y.html#ixzz6XZQuvABI "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Official Space Nerd |
Yeah, that's the main headline of FoxNews.com right now. They 'accuse' President Trump of maintaining a calm and professional demeanor, as if that's a bad thing. The LAST thing we need is our leader running around in a blind panic. Of course, the libs desperately NEED panic and fear right now - it's the only weapon they have to sway the election. And, of course, we all know that. Reminds me of the joke about FDR walking across the water to retrieve the Pope's hat, saying the press would spin it as "President can't swim.". . Fear God and Dread Nought Admiral of the Fleet Sir Jacky Fisher | |||
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Coin Sniper |
I recall early in this they slammed Trump every time he developed a plan with an end. How DARE a President give his people hope that a horrible situation will end. Apparently the media wants a leader running in circles, waving his hands screaming, "WE'RE ALL GONNA DIIIIIEEEEE" Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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The guy behind the guy |
Keep this in mind too, in the month of July about 32,000 people died of COVID per the CDC. Also per the the CDC, there were 1.9 million new cases of COVID in July. I'll save you the math, that's a mortality rate of 1.6%. Overall we have 6.5 million cases and 175k deaths. That's a 2.7% mortality rate. As you can see, the mortality rate is dropping like a rock now. Either we have figured out how to treat it, or, forgive my callousness, those susceptible to it have already died from it. I'm guessing it's we've figured out how to treat it. | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
A Doctor Went to His Own Employer for a COVID-19 Antibody Test. It Cost $10,984. Physicians Premier ER charged Dr. Zachary Sussman’s insurance $10,984 for his COVID-19 antibody test even though Sussman worked for the chain and knows the testing materials only cost about $8. Even more surprising: The insurer paid in full. https://www.propublica.org/art...-test-it-cost-10-984 "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Lighten up and laugh |
The President is doing an outstanding job answering questions. | |||
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The virus has basically burned though the susceptible population (i.e. advanced age and/or multiple serious comorbidities) based on the declining rate of hospitalizations and fairly steady daily "positive PCR" data which continues to run between 5-10% of those tested since the end of April. Scroll down this link for COVID-19 Test Results Just how bad a decision the lockdown and other mandated "mitigation" measures prove to be will be sorted out in time. This paper from the journal Disaster Medicine and Public Health Preparedness seems like a good start: "Public health lessons learned from biases in coronavirus mortality overestimation Ronald B. Brown, PhD School of Public Health and Health Systems University of Waterloo, Waterloo, ON N2L 3G1, Canada Abstract In testimony before U.S. Congress on March 11, 2020, members of the House Oversight and Reform Committee were informed that estimated mortality for the novel coronavirus was ten- times higher than for seasonal influenza. Additional evidence, however, suggests the validity of this estimation could benefit from vetting for biases and miscalculations. The main objective of this article is to critically appraise the coronavirus mortality estimation presented to Congress. Informational texts from the World Health Organization and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are compared with coronavirus mortality calculations in Congressional testimony. Results of this critical appraisal reveal information bias and selection bias in coronavirus mortality overestimation, most likely caused by misclassifying an influenza infection fatality rate as a case fatality rate. Public health lessons learned for future infectious disease pandemics include: safeguarding against research biases that may underestimate or overestimate an associated risk of disease and mortality; reassessing the ethics of fear-based public health campaigns; and providing full public disclosure of adverse effects from severe mitigation measures to contain viral transmission." You can read the pre-print here: Linky Be prepared to have your blood boil. ____________________________ "It is easier to fool someone than to convince them they have been fooled." Unknown observer of human behavior. | |||
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