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The federal Covid vaccine mandate (not the OSHA one) has been pushed back to Jan 4, 2022 instead of December 8, 2021.

I have not seen this. Do you have a link?


Federal Contractor COVID-19 Vaccine Deadline Pushed Back to January


 
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The race to the bottom of truck choices starts with Ford. Ford becomes the first US automaker to mandate the vaccine.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/1...workforce/index.html
As if Ford didn't already have enough problems facing them with thousands of Ford trucks rotting in parking lots around the country, and others that did make it into customer hands spending incredible amounts of time in the service departments at dealerships around the country to have a continual stream of recalls addressed. And that new Bronco that everyone wants. Sorry Ford can't build that either.

On the other hand, maybe Ford's current CEO, one of the worst in Ford's history, is knuckling under to this ridiculous administration to position Ford for a taxpayer bailout in the not too distant future.


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This is Senator (and physician) Bill Cassidy questioning Dr. Rochelle Walensky, Director of the CDC. Like seemingly everyone offering Congressional testimony, Dr. Walensky is very adept at side-stepping direct questions. It might be of some concern that she appears to know very little about the agency she directs.
I don't like Cassidy for one primary reason....he's polite and appears not to want to destroy these people when all they do is lie. Walensky, not unlike Fauci, is the enemy. I can't put it any more bluntly than that. Cassidy's question about how many at CDC are vaccinated should have been phrased, "Ms. Walensky (no I would not refer to her as doctor because she is not due that respect), are 100% of CDC employees fully vaccinated and back at work at this point? (Much harder question to dodge.) Follow up: Why not? You're apparently comfortable forcing this BS on the American public yet your own department is unwilling to take the jab. Is that due to your total lack of leadership or your abject disdain for regular Americans?" Stop playing nice with these people. ROE should be search and destroy.


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The federal Covid vaccine mandate (not the OSHA one) has been pushed back to Jan 4, 2022 instead of December 8, 2021.

I have not seen this. Do you have a link?


Federal Contractor COVID-19 Vaccine Deadline Pushed Back to January

Thank you!



 
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Italian Institute Of Health Drastically Reduces Its Official COVID Death Toll Number

https://www.zerohedge.com/mark...id-death-toll-number

The Italian Higher Institute of Health has drastically reduced the country’s official COVID death toll number by over 97 per cent after changing the definition of a fatality to someone who died from COVID rather than with COVID.

Italian newspaper Il Tempo reports that the Institute has revised downward the number of people who have died from COVID rather than with COVID from 130,000 to under 4,000.

Yes, you read that right. Turns out 97.1% of deaths hitherto attributed to Covid were not due directly to Covid,” writes Toby Young.

Of the of the 130,468 deaths registered as official COVID deaths since the start of the pandemic, only 3,783 are directly attributable to the virus alone.

“All the other Italians who lost their lives had from between one and five pre-existing diseases. Of those aged over 67 who died, 7% had more than three co-morbidities, and 18% at least two,” writes Young.

“According to the Institute, 65.8% of Italians who died after being infected with Covid were ill with arterial hypertension (high blood pressure), 23.5% had dementia, 29.3% had diabetes, and 24.8% atrial fibrillation. Add to that, 17.4% had lung problems, 16.3% had had cancer in the last five years and 15.7% suffered from previous heart failures.”

The Institute’s new definition of a COVID death means that COVID has killed fewer people in Italy than (whisper it) the average bout of seasonal flu.

If a similar change were made by other national governments, the official COVID death toll would be cut by a margin of greater than 90 per cent.

Don’t expect many others to follow suit though, given that governments have invested so much of their authority in hyping the the threat posed by the virus.

For example, behavioral psychologists in the UK worked with the state to deliberately “exaggerate” the threat of COVID via “unethical” and “totalitarian” methods of propaganda in order to terrify the public into mass compliance.

And it worked.

A survey conducted after the first lockdown found that the average Brit thought 100 times more people had died from COVID than the official death toll.

Now we come to understand that the official killed ‘by COVID’ and not ‘with COVID’ figure is less than one tenth what is officially reported as the total COVID death toll.

Despite the change, Italy may yet take the decision to make the COVID-19 vaccine mandatory, although how such a scheme would be imposed remains unspecified.


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Italian Institute Of Health Drastically Reduces Its Official COVID Death Toll Number

https://www.zerohedge.com/mark...id-death-toll-number

The Italian Higher Institute of Health has drastically reduced the country’s official COVID death toll number by over 97 per cent after changing the definition of a fatality to someone who died from COVID rather than with COVID.
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The SANE people of this rotating marble knew that from the git-go! This is NOTHING that will sway or alter the Libtarded Pravda or TASS narrative in this country...still have to sow that discord, ya know. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if Faux-chi doubled down on the stupid.

PROUD of my homies in Italy for this!!!! Big Grin Cool

My senators and House Rep are gonna get an e-mail asking when this country will follow suit. Not that it'll do any good, but MAYBE my Texas delegates can start swinging the pendulum in the other direction...



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Kinda shocking to see it published.




 
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Good to see Italy coming out formally with this information - which many of us already know.
 
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97%! So basically, no pandemic.


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I suspected this would happen but was holding out hope parents would be a bit more reluctant to take their 5 to 11 year olds in to get the jab. The first school vaccination clinic in Duluth jabbed 260 kids yesterday. Parents just can't wait to use their kids as a tool for their virtue signalling.

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Six-year-old Sia Regas was one of the 260 children signed up for today’s clinic.


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The most recent guidance from the Biden administration’s Safer Federal Workforce Task Force, released on Monday, says that covered contractors should “determine the appropriate means of enforcement” for employees who do not get vaccinated and gives some suggestions for actions to take.

From Me:
Is the Biden administration taking suggestions as to what they can do with their suggestions.
Hint, it’s the same suggestion I would give them for their mandates.



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Six-year-old Sia Regas was one of the 260 children signed up for today’s clinic.


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Comments from the kid's mother from the linked article:

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Regas is more familiar with the process than most.

“I started off covid testing over a year ago now,” said Regas. “Then the vaccine rolled out, and I was part of that effort. I’ve been continuing testing and vaccinating all over the state for the last year plus.”

Those who attended the clinic were supportive of each other, even cheering as kids walked into the waiting room.

“It’s really exciting and it feels almost like a sense of relief now that our kids five and up can get vaccinated,” said Regas.


What is wrong with these people? /rhetorical question.




 
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I suspected this would happen but was holding out hope parents would be a bit more reluctant to take their 5 to 11 year olds in to get the jab. The first school vaccination clinic in Duluth jabbed 260 kids yesterday. Parents just can't wait to use their kids as a tool for their virtue signalling.

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Six-year-old Sia Regas was one of the 260 children signed up for today’s clinic.


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It’s not going to happen to our child, despite the propaganda being put forth by his school.
 
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Over my dead body will my girls get the government experimental shot.

Sadly, many of the parents here in super liberal Park City are all giddy and excited about pumping their helpless kids with this crap. One of the more monstrous things I've ever seen.


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I suspected this would happen but was holding out hope parents would be a bit more reluctant to take their 5 to 11 year olds in to get the jab. The first school vaccination clinic in Duluth jabbed 260 kids yesterday. Parents just can't wait to use their kids as a tool for their virtue signalling.

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Six-year-old Sia Regas was one of the 260 children signed up for today’s clinic.


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Government mandated child experimentation/abuse. Welcome to the new world comrade.


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The Institute’s new definition of a COVID death means that COVID has killed fewer people in Italy than (whisper it) the average bout of seasonal flu.
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Welll... that depends.

How do they count people who are "killed by" the typical seasonal influenza?

Up until this announcement Italy has been treating deaths where Covid-19 infections were present as the Covid-19 infection being the proximate cause, rather than a contributing or precipitating factor. How do they categorize deaths where an influenza infection is present and there are comorbidities?

I'm not defending President-Alleged Brandon's mandates, the various dictator Governors' lock-downs, the dominant "news" media's propaganda, the pharmaceutical companies' experimental "vaccines," Dr. Fauxi, or any other facet of this whole Wu Flu Scaredemic theater, but it's not as if our own CDC hasn't admitted to the same thing:
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For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.9 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups. Values in the table represent number of deaths that mention the condition listed and 94% of deaths mention more than one condition.

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Source: Conditions contributing to deaths involving COVID-19, by age group, United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 12/5/2020.

My point is: In comparing the effects of the Wu Flu to a seasonal influenza the same metrics must be used. Otherwise it's like comparing reported crime rates in, say, the U.S. and the U.K., which is often misleading due to the differences in crime categorization, reporting, and recording.



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I suspected this would happen but was holding out hope parents would be a bit more reluctant to take their 5 to 11 year olds in to get the jab. The first school vaccination clinic in Duluth jabbed 260 kids yesterday. Parents just can't wait to use their kids as a tool for their virtue signalling.

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Six-year-old Sia Regas was one of the 260 children signed up for today’s clinic.


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Talking with my buddy's wife yesterday. She's excited to get her kids the shot for their safety. They've all had COVID, all were mild cases. I asked her about the risks of vaccine given they've already had it and were fine. She blew it off, said if they are unlucky and get myocarditis, then oh well. I told her she's rolling the dice for an illness that is less dangerous than playing youth sports. Said something about she was doing for everyone else.

WTF is wrong with people?



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Biden's Vaccine Mandate Is Worse Than We Thought: Look How He's Punishing Unvaxxed Employees

With Democrats having been shellacked at the polls on Tuesday, the Biden administration is pivoting from the carnage toward an issue only a liberal could think is a winner: Forcing Americans to do things they don’t believe they should do.

It was in this authoritarian spirit that the White House announced on Thursday that, starting Jan. 4, it will begin to enforce its previously proposed vaccine mandate.

The logic for the Biden administration has been that Americans like vaccine mandates and won’t return to work until they feel safe. This has been nonsense because (1) those who have been most vocal about being unsafe are the vaccinated (whom logic dictates should be the most protected); and (2) the Biden administration has been paying Americans to not go to work.

But now it’s more complicated.

The point of the mandate is control. The reason that it must be enforced now, as opposed to from the outset, is because — as Tuesday’s votes in Virginia, New Jersey and elsewhere showed — radical Democrats are in real trouble with voters, and the moderates have no incentive to acquiesce to the radicals. This means the congressional works are officially gummed-up, so President Joe Biden has the opening to do what he has wanted to do all along: Take power from Congress and wield it via the executive branch.

That was former President Barack Obama’s strategy for dealing with public blowback and subsequent hesitancy in Congress – for instance, Obama’s Deferred Action on Childhood Arrivals executive order on illegal immigration that followed his party’s loss of the Senate in the 2014 midterms. Biden is following suit.

Here is what it would mean, according to the 490-page document, if this mandate were to go into effect on an estimated 100 million American workers covered by its provisions.

Beginning Jan. 4, companies with 100 or more employees will be forced to fire unvaccinated employees, test them regularly for COVID-19 infection or be faced with steep fines. In what NPR suggests is an underhanded attempt to force employees to choose to be vaccinated, companies will not be forced to pay for or provide testing, meaning that employees who choose not to be vaccinated will incur the expense. (Health care workers would not even receive this option.)

Furthermore, employees must receive paid time off to get vaccinated and receive sick leave to recover from side effects, and the unvaccinated will be forced to wear masks.

That last point would basically be forcing employees to reveal their vaccination status to co-workers — a gross invasion of medical privacy that arguably amounts to punishment for failing to comply.

Aside from the fact that this policy is likely both unconstitutional and based on polling or misinterpretations of polling rather than medical data, the mandate raises the question of whether there are any principles involved that would limit the government’s power. The answer is that there are none.

Many Americans will no doubt seek religious exemptions for vaccination from their employers, and, as the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission’s website notes, the law does give weight to such requests. Still, there’s no guarantee that employers would honor them, which creates an environment where the courts get involved — a time-consuming and almost certainly an expensive process for all parties involved.

As for a potentially even more important concern, this does not end, nor does it stop from getting worse. OSHA will enforce this mandate as an emergency temporary standard (ETS). The Biden administration believes that “emergencies,” being conducive to power-grabs, are universal and infinite.

Because of this, the emergency never ends – and as other political pressures necessitate it, the crackdowns must be tightened to signal action and concern.

This mandate is blatant tyranny intended to extend the lifespan of a failing presidency and crammed down under the guise of compassion. It is a logically and scientifically incoherent usurpation of power that will face legal complications of an awe-inspiring variety.

Given the generally effective performance of the vaccines, it is also evidence that something good, when entrusted to an incompetent, unprincipled and unfocused government, can become vicious and deleterious overnight.
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Americans of all stripes, pro- or anti-vaccine, should have serious concerns about this extreme use of federal power.

Callousness and overreach from Biden and the radical progressives has come to be expected. They should come to expect lawful resistance from a free people — and a resounding defeat in the midterm election cycle when Americans get to have their formal say.

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