I didn't want to start another thread on da' rona but I have had a question posed to me, which I don't know the answer.

A chain employer in Virginia is making it mandatory to wear a Contact Tracing device for it's employees. The person asked me if there is any grounds to which they can legally reject the requirement and still keep their employment. I told her that I'd check with the smartest collective I can think of, so here we are.

Off the top of my head, there is definitely a personal liberties issue. Nobody needs to know where, when, or how long a person has gone somewhere or whom they've been in contact with. Very much a security issue in my mind. I know that a consultation with legal representation is always a good route, and I've advised that already. Just wanted others opinions.

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A chain employer in Virginia is making it mandatory to wear a Contact Tracing device for it's employees. The person asked me if there is any grounds to which they can legally reject the requirement and still keep their employment.

On the one hand... an 'at-will' employer does not need a reason to fire an employee.

But... they still have no authority over the employee when the employee is not at work.

I wouldn't want to work for such an employer. The best outcome would be if ALL or most employees told the employer "No way!". They probably can't function if enough of them say no.

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Originally posted by mutedblade:
I didn't want to start another thread on da' rona but I have had a question posed to me, which I don't know the answer.

A chain employer in Virginia is making it mandatory to wear a Contact Tracing device for it's employees...

This is on their company property only, correct? If so it is no different than having an RFID badge that unlocks doors to corporate offices. I am not sure why the employee would care as long as it is on the company property. Take it off and leave it when you leave the property and no harm no fowl. But if they are saying to wear it off the clock and off property, then no way. But it would do them no good anyway, as how would they know what people were around you anyway, unless it is only to trace interactions between employees.

I think more info is needed for sure.

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Originally posted by sig226fan:
This is on their company property only, correct?

Got the clarification. Seems it's only while clocked in. No idea what information is being tracked and who is managing it. I still think it's a bad idea for businesses to get into this kind of stuff. Soon, there will be no privacy left. I have advised retaining a good labor lawyer to further discuss this. Thanks for the ideas everyone.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
I caught Gladiator tonight on tv and several of the commercial breaks were for Corona beer. Not one mask, social distancing, or any other state sponsored horse shit. I thought it was funny given all the negative attention they got early on as a result of sheer stupidity and ignorance.

Are these the ones with Snoop Dogg? The dude who made a rap video parodying the assassination of our President?

No it was not. I wouldn’t give that shitbag a second of notice so stow the attitude.

... a contact tracing device?

Well, we maybe entering areas of Privacy.
And if this pertains to the health of an employee, is the trace logging being retained by the corporation, third party - well we maybe entering the realms of HIPAA and Personally Identifiable Information (PII).

There are regulations, and differences by state to review ...

Well, my two pfennig for the day.

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Originally posted by IntrepidTraveler:
Depressed? Yes. Amused? Also yes.

I was in Columbia SC this week, went to a $tarbucks. They made me wear a mask. I made them give me one. I then sat down at a table and was exempt from putting it on. So there!

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Originally posted by PASig:

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Originally posted by IntrepidTraveler:
Depressed? Yes. Amused? Also yes.

I was in Columbia SC this week, went to a $tarbucks. They made me wear a mask. I made them give me one. I then sat down at a table and was exempt from putting it on. So there!

Yep, this is the absolute height of stupidity. In Central Florida....

Outside - No need to wear a mask.
To enter a restaurant - Must wear a mask
Once seated and for the remainder of the outing - No need to wear a mask.
To leave - Must wear a mask until exiting the front door.
Outside - No need to wear a mask.

I don't know who came up with these retarded requirements, but it pains me to no end that no one on the County Commission stopped and said aloud, "This is stupid". But then again, the people on the commission aren't exactly 'bright'.

Went to the only place in my county to get tested. Two of my kids and my wife are sick. I'm not 100%, feel like I have the beginning of something, and figured I'd get tested as a precaution. Find out the results in 5-7days. By that time, I'll be over whatever I have.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:

No it was not. I wouldn’t give that shitbag a second of notice so stow the attitude.

Attitude? Damn. Sensitive much? Slow your roll, man. I'm not attacking you. Goodness.

I never bought Corona because it's shit beer, but had I drank Corona, I certainly wouldn't be now. Not because of the stupid pandemic crap, but because their new spokesman is now that "shitbag" as you say.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
I don't know who came up with these retarded requirements, but it pains me to no end that no one on the County Commission stopped and said aloud, "This is stupid". But then again, the people on the commission aren't exactly 'bright'.

That asshole deming, that's likely who. Just look at the joke that's orange county sheriff and how he politicized it. They hire trash and promote trash.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by gearhounds:

No it was not. I wouldn’t give that shitbag a second of notice so stow the attitude.

Attitude? Damn. Sensitive much? Slow your roll, man. I'm not attacking you. Goodness.

I never bought Corona because it's shit beer, but had I drank Corona, I certainly wouldn't be now. Not because of the stupid pandemic crap, but because their new spokesman is now that "shitbag" as you say.

I don’t drink at all, so my observation was simply an exercise in pointing something out. The comment the way it was presented was unnecessary.

Uhhhh....WHAAAT?

Try this at my house and there will be blood all right, but not of me or my family members!



"Hi I'm from the government and I've come to bleed you."

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Dem Mayor Launches Study That Will Collect Blood Samples From Randomly Selected Houston Homes

Democratic Mayor Sylvester Turner has signed off on a new study that will see city employees visit randomly selected homes in Houston to collect blood samples for COVID-19 antibody testing.

The study is being conducted by the Houston Health Department in collaboration with the Centers for Disease Control (CDC). Household members will be asked to answer a survey and give a blood sample. For some households, all members of the household will be asked to participate.

Authorities say the tests are necessary to develop a deeper insight into how COVID-19 spreads through the community and how many people were previously infected with the virus.

The Mayor said the program would be voluntary, but urged citizens to take part.

“If we knock on your door, I strongly encourage you and your loved ones to participate in this important survey,” said Turner.

“The data you provide by participating will help inform strategies to mitigate the effects of COVID-19.”

Link

It's a study I will be interested in seeing the results to, but there is no way in hell I'd participate.

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The Mayor said the program would be voluntary, but urged citizens to take part.

Cram it up your ass.

Voluntarily, of course.

We are now looking for COVID in community poo by testing waste water. Where is Mike Rowe?

https://www.clickondetroit.com...id-19-in-wastewater/

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If we knock on your door, I strongly encourage you and your loved ones to participate in this important survey,” said Turner.

I don't live there but if someone were to show up at my door wanting a blood sample, I would offer to provide a sample...of their blood... if they didn't get off my property.

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Originally posted by esdunbar:
It's a study I will be interested in seeing the results to, but there is no way in hell I'd participate.

Yeah, they should end up with a pretty good idea of the infection rate among dumb asses who willingly give blood in response to a knock on their door

The UN WHO has been collecting "voluntary blood samples" in Africa for over 20 years. This is where all the lunatic politicians are getting these ideas.

After over 15 years working in Africa and seeing how the UN has ravaged the continent and now seeing the exact same methodology being used here, I personally believe the UN is the single greatest threat to the American way of life.

Everything from antifa, to LGBT, to socialism/communism, anti-capitalism, end of individualism, education and climate change, is driven globally by the UN. It is all written out in their Vision2020.

The reason why Bill Gates hates the FDA is because he is the second largest donor to the WHO. Think about that, a single foundation is the second biggest donor in the world. $531M in 2018-2019

When Trump says powerful people and organizations are after him, he is talking about the UN.

Yeah, come down to the Southern US and ask for blood, and see what happens. These people are begging for a beatdown.