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^^^^ This needs much broader publication. The media, local governments and even Johns Hopkins are ALL reporting infections as "cases", and insinuating that the rise in positive infection tests means a rise in actual "cases", and extrapolates that to "more people are gonna die!".

CDC and NIAID getting this wrong is inexcusable. But it is interesting to realize that their calculations for various things like annual influenza death rates are published and reported, but ultimately the quality of the data and calculation is inconsequential because it's just news and not linked to policy. So there is no feedback mechanism to expose errors, and therefore they have not developed the quality methods needed.

In my field - manufacturing - quality data is ever present in the form of defect rates, customer reject rates, warranty failures, etc. Therefore we have a lot of quality processes to ensure we make the product correctly, and we know when we are doing it right, and when we are doing it wrong. This also goes upstream to design related quality issues.

So now, the first time CDC and NIAID data and calculations have actually been used for something important, they were way off, leading to a lot of bad decisions.

In the end, the only "death" measure we should look at is any increase in 2020 death rates relative to long term historical death rates. Any actual overage of deaths may be COVID related (controlling for changes in murder, suicide, accidents, and increased mortality from lack of medical care availability for other conditions), and all of the fake COVID deaths (like the real influenza deaths that magically disappeared) will be averaged out.
 
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I recall early in this they slammed Trump every time he developed a plan with an end.

How DARE a President give his people hope that a horrible situation will end. Apparently the media wants a leader running in circles, waving his hands screaming, "WE'RE ALL GONNA DIIIIIEEEEE"
Its all about hope. The Left wants you to have none of it. Misery is the goal, and they're working 24/7 on all levels to that end.


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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story...9-relief-loan-scheme

Former New York Jets wide receiver Josh Bellamy was arrested for his alleged role in a $24 million scheme to receive illegal loans intended for coronavirus relief, the U.S. Justice Department announced Thursday.

Bellamy, 31, was charged in a federal criminal complaint with fraud, bank fraud, and conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud. He allegedly received more than $1.2 million in Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) loans for his company Drip Entertainment LLC, according to the Justice Department.

Bellamy, recovering from a shoulder injury, was released Tuesday from the Jets'

According to the Justice Department, Bellamy spent more than $62,000 in loan money at the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in Florida. He also is accused of using more than $104,000 for luxury goods, including purchases at Dior, Gucci and various jewelers, in addition to withdrawing more than $302,000.

Ten other defendants were allegedly involved in the scheme.

The PPP allows qualifying small businesses suffering financial hardship from the COVID-19 pandemic to receive low-interest loans.
 
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Here is a blog post of a Scottish MD who gives credit to Dr. Brown for the article in Disaster Medicine and Public Health Preparedness which I posted a few days ago:

"4th September 2020

COVID – why terminology really, really matters

[And the consequences of getting it horribly wrong]

When is a case not a case?

Since the start of the COVID pandemic I have watched almost everyone get mission critical things wrong. In some ways this is not surprising. Medical terminology is horribly imprecise, and often poorly understood. In calmer times such things are only of interest to research geeks like me. Were they talking about CVD, or CHD?

However, right now, it really, really, matters. Specifically, with regards to the term COVID ‘cases...’

Read the blog post here: Dr. Kendrick

I have yet to see any reference to this extremely important revelation in any main-stream press. Tucker Carlson should interview Dr. Brown. That might wake some folks up.


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Sister in Law's was here for a BBQ Labor Day. She told me her best friend just went to her Dr. with a cold or mild flu like symptoms... she filled out the paperwork for a covid test. When she found out how long the wait time would be she decided to skip it and leave. She never had the test or saw the DR.

Three days later she was notified she tested positive. Roll Eyes



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She never had the test or saw the DR.

Three days later she was notified she tested positive. Roll Eyes


Same thing was just relayed to me by my youngest brother today. Happened to a guy from work who went to doc on Tuesday. Never tested but somehow he’s a statistic now.


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Posts: 2868 | Location: Lake Anna, VA | Registered: May 07, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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A local business man just put up this billboard on one of the busiest roads here. It flashes a few different messages but you get the idea and each message is "anti" our idiot governor and his imperial dictates.
 
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Chinese virologist claims she has proof COVID-19 was made in Wuhan lab

https://nypost.com/2020/09/11/...s-made-in-wuhan-lab/

A Chinese virologist who has reportedly been in hiding for fear of her safety has stepped out into the public eye again to make the explosive claim that she has the scientific evidence to prove COVID-19 was man-made in a lab in China.

Dr. Li-Meng Yan, a scientist who says she did some of the earliest research into COVID-19 last year, made the comments Friday during an interview on British talk show “Loose Women.”

When asked where the deadly virus that has killed more than 900,000 around the globe comes from, Yan — speaking via video chat from a secret location — replied, “It comes from the lab — the lab in Wuhan and the lab is controlled by China’s government.”

She insisted that widespread reports that the virus originated last year from a wet market in Wuhan, China, are “a smokescreen.”

“The first thing is the [meat] market in Wuhan … is a smokescreen and this virus is not from nature,” Yan claimed, explaining that she got “her intelligence from the CDC in China, from the local doctors.”

The virologist has previously accused Beijing of lying about when it learned of the killer bug and engaging in an extensive cover-up of her work.

She had said that her former supervisors at the Hong Kong School of Public Health, a reference laboratory for the World Health Organization, silenced her when she sounded the alarm about human-to-human transmission in December last year.

In April, Yan reportedly fled Hong Kong and escaped to America to raise awareness about the pandemic.

Now, she said she is planning to release scientific evidence to prove that the virus was made inside a lab in Wuhan.

“The genome sequence is like a human finger print,” she told the talk show. “So based on this you can identify these things. I use the evidence … to tell people why this has come from the lab in China, why they are the only ones who made it.”

Yan added, “Anyone, even if you have no biology knowledge, you can read it, and you can check and identify and verify by yourself.”

“This is the critical thing for us to know the origin of the virus,” she said. “If not we cannot overcome it — it will be life-threatening for everyone.”

She said she is coming out now because “I know if I don’t tell the truth to the world, I will be regretful.”

Yan also claimed that before fleeing China, her information was wiped from government databases.

“They deleted all my information,” she told “Loose Women,” claiming that people have been recruited “to spread rumors about me, that I’m a liar.”

Yuan Zhiming, the director of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, has previously denied reports that the bug accidentally spread from his facility.

“There’s no way this virus came from us,” Zhiming told state media in April.


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I got Karened today by what seemed to be a transplant to the South.

I didn't have my mask pinched to my nose tight enough for him. He had a Bostonian, smug liberal accent like I was some sort of lesser person because I talk funny.

I'm normally an asshole, but when someone goes out of their way to irritate me, I'm at 11.

I quietly informed him that if he didn't step back from my shoulder that I would yell "GET YOUR HAND OFF MY ASS YOU GODDAMMED PERVERT!!!"

He just retreated to his wife muttering.


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Posts: 34505 | Location: North, GA | Registered: October 09, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I didn't have my mask pinched to my nose tight enough for him.


Seriously? I think I would have lost it.
 
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Well, Los Angeles has banned Halloween.
https://fox59.com/newsfeed-now...ict-halloween-rules/


They must have gotten significant pushback.

"On Tuesday, the Department of Public Health posted Halloween guidelines on its website stating that door-to-door trick-or-treating is banned under the county health order.... By Wednesday, however, the guidelines were changed, with trick-or-treating listed as "not recommended,'' instead of "not permitted."

https://abc7.com/halloween-202...los-angeles/6416043/


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Posts: 1383 | Location: Gilbert, AZ | Registered: November 08, 2000Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Uh, yeah. And LA is going to send the PD to break up how many adult Halloween parties in their city? Right.
 
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I was quite depressed by what I saw today. The family and I went to the Hogle Zoo in Salt Lake City today. Masks were required indoors (i was kicked out of the Polar Bear/Seal exhibit for not covering my face), but of course masks were not required outside. At least 90% of guests were wearing masks outside. Obviously 95% of the zoo is outside. I just don't get it. These people seriously baffle me. It's depressing. Many people will never come out of this mental retardation they've been driven to.

One instance did make my wife and I laugh out loud though. We're walking outside (huge spacious area), and walking towards us from the opposite direction is a family with a boy around 4 or 5. He's running around like 4 year olds do and gets to within four feet of us. The woman screams as loud as can be, "get over here! Those people aren't wearing masks!"

My wife and I just looked at each other incredulously for a second then burst out laughing. Damn, these people have really had a number done to them.


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Depressed? Yes. Amused? Also yes.

I was in Columbia SC this week, went to a $tarbucks. They made me wear a mask. I made them give me one. I then sat down at a table and was exempt from putting it on. So there!




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I caught Gladiator tonight on tv and several of the commercial breaks were for Corona beer. Not one mask, social distancing, or any other state sponsored horse shit. I thought it was funny given all the negative attention they got early on as a result of sheer stupidity and ignorance.




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I caught Gladiator tonight on tv and several of the commercial breaks were for Corona beer. Not one mask, social distancing, or any other state sponsored horse shit. I thought it was funny given all the negative attention they got early on as a result of sheer stupidity and ignorance.


Are these the ones with Snoop Dogg? The dude who made a rap video parodying the assassination of our President?


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Posts: 31138 | Location: Elv. 7,000 feet, Utah | Registered: October 29, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Tiny Antibody Component Highly Effective Against COVID-19

https://www.upmc.com/media/new...s-dimitrov-covid-ab8

PITTSBURGH – University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine scientists have isolated the smallest biological molecule to date that completely and specifically neutralizes the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which is the cause of COVID-19. This antibody component, which is 10 times smaller than a full-sized antibody, has been used to construct a drug—known as Ab8—for potential use as a therapeutic and prophylactic against SARS-CoV-2.


The researchers report today in the journal Cell that Ab8 is highly effective in preventing and treating SARS-CoV-2 infection in mice and hamsters. Its tiny size not only increases its potential for diffusion in tissues to better neutralize the virus, but also makes it possible to administer the drug by alternative routes, including inhalation. Importantly, it does not bind to human cells—a good sign that it won’t have negative side-effects in people.


Ab8 was evaluated in conjunction with scientists from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (UNC) and University of Texas Medical Branch (UTMB) at Galveston, as well as the University of British Columbia and University of Saskatchewan.

“Ab8 not only has potential as therapy for COVID-19, but it also could be used to keep people from getting SARS-CoV-2 infections,” said co-author John Mellors, M.D., chief of the Division of Infectious Diseases at UPMC and Pitt. “Antibodies of larger size have worked against other infectious diseases and have been well tolerated, giving us hope that it could be an effective treatment for patients with COVID-19 and for protection of those who have never had the infection and are not immune.”


The tiny antibody component is the variable, heavy chain (VH) domain of an immunoglobulin, which is a type of antibody found in the blood. It was found by “fishing” in a pool of more than 100 billion potential candidates using the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein as bait. Ab8 is created when the VH domain is fused to part of the immunoglobulin tail region, adding the immune functions of a full-size antibody without the bulk.



Like the Pitt and UPMC vaccine candidate PittCoVacc that delivers an immunization through a spiky Band-Aid-like patch and overcomes the need for needles and refrigeration, the researchers are “thinking outside the box” when it comes to how Ab8 could be administered. Its small size might allow it to be given as an inhaled drug or intradermally, rather than intravenously through an IV drip, like most monoclonal antibodies currently in development.


Abound Bio, a newly formed UPMC-backed company, has licensed Ab8 for worldwide development.

More at link


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Bill Gates... anti-trump, globalist, a-hole:

Bill Gates Slams FDA, Doubts Agency Can Be Trusted With COVID-19 Vaccine

Bill Gates just ratcheted up his PR campaign to sow doubts about President Trump's alleged 'political meddling' with the FDA, while also placing him in league - if only temporarily - with the vaccine skeptics Gates frequently rails against. During an interview with Bloomberg News, the Microsoft founder and Gates Foundation chairman, who has persisted in his defenses of the WHO despite growing evidence of missteps, attacked the FDA's credibility, claiming that he no longer believes the FDA is 'the world's premier public-health authority', as Bloomberg says during the opening paragraph of the post.

Gates, who has helped finance several vaccine projects around the world, said he doesn't trust the CDC, either, because credibility and a focus public welfare have become "casualties of a presidency that has downplayed or dismissed science and medicine in the pursuit of political gain."

https://www.zerohedge.com/geop...ted-covid-19-vaccine



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I only heard part of dr. falsi's interview on OAN yesterday. He's said the crud restrictions should be enforced and expected well into 2021, even with the possibility of a vaccine being released? Roll Eyes

I'm glad that turd isn't a daily sound byte anymore.
 
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Bill Gates... anti-trump, globalist, a-hole:

Bill Gates Slams FDA, Doubts Agency Can Be Trusted With COVID-19 Vaccine

Bill Gates just ratcheted up his PR campaign to sow doubts about President Trump's alleged 'political meddling' with the FDA, while also placing him in league - if only temporarily - with the vaccine skeptics Gates frequently rails against. During an interview with Bloomberg News, the Microsoft founder and Gates Foundation chairman, who has persisted in his defenses of the WHO despite growing evidence of missteps, attacked the FDA's credibility, claiming that he no longer believes the FDA is 'the world's premier public-health authority', as Bloomberg says during the opening paragraph of the post.

Gates, who has helped finance several vaccine projects around the world, said he doesn't trust the CDC, either, because credibility and a focus public welfare have become "casualties of a presidency that has downplayed or dismissed science and medicine in the pursuit of political gain."

https://www.zerohedge.com/geop...ted-covid-19-vaccine
Yeah, I'm no fan of the FDA or CDC either, but I also think Gates is an ideological moron on the topic.


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