Waiting for someone to start selling COVID-Strong t-shirts to support the cause, or just to make a few bucks from these fools.

what a great idea.....

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Originally posted by feersum dreadnaught:
speaking of BS. It either is, or is not a concern. Marching over a concern does not provide any special immunity.

And communism has taken many more. We need more people attending Trump speeches so we can stamp it out.

https://movieweb.com/disney-wo...s-social-distancing/

Stormtroopers Used to Enforce Social Distancing at Disney World
Disney Springs opened up last week and it has been crowded, so Stormtroopers from the Star Wars franchise have been called in to help with social distancing.

KEVIN BURWICK — May 29, 2020 in MOVIE NEWS



"Disney Springs now has Stormtroopers from the Star Wars franchise on patrol to make sure everybody is following the social distancing safety measures. It's a friendly reminder and it helps to keep people feeling comfortable with coming outside of their homes during this time. That's the exact opposite of the way these guys are portrayed on the big screen, but whatever it takes to make people feel like things are getting back to normal works. So far, the results have been nothing but positive, which should make Kylo Ren proud, or maybe even more angry than he was before."

This was three months ago. Why can't I remember it?

Maybe they flashy-thing-ed me.

Sorry, Hannah, but I call bullshit! You could not send a text message? That had to be a personal disaster of horrific proportion. And unable to text but you spent months "self organizing"? And moving in with Mom for 150 days? Did Mom wear a mask? Was she socially distanced from you the entire time?
And you were ok with exposing Mom to your highly contagious self? Right.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
COVID Is Making Younger, Healthy People Debilitatingly Sick For Months. Now They’re Fighting For Recognition.


There were weeks when Hannah Davis couldn’t remember how to send a text message. On top of the extreme fatigue, racing heart rate, and difficulty breathing she experienced daily, the most terrifying part of being sick with COVID-19 for the last 21 weeks, Davis said, has also been one of the hardest to explain: losing her mind.

“I feel like I have a brain injury. I have a hard time remembering who I was,” she said. “It was hard to remember I had to feed myself a couple times a day.”

Davis, 32, is a programmer who spent her days pre-pandemic working on machine learning and artificial intelligence, often presenting to big audiences, including at the Library of Congress. That all came crashing to a halt in March, when she got sick. She had to move back in with her mom and, for 150 days, has been unable to function normally. Doctors, even sympathetic ones, had no answers. Most questioned whether her symptoms, particularly the neurological ones, were linked to COVID at all. ...

https://jbhandleyblog.com/home.../lockdownlunacythree

Jeffrey A. Tucker of the American Institute for Economic Research put it best in his excellent essay on July 10 titled, When will the Madness End?:

“I’m a practicing psychiatrist who specializes in anxiety disorders, paranoid delusions, and irrational fear. I’ve been treating this in individuals as a specialist. It’s hard enough to contain these problems in normal times. What’s happening now is a spread of this serious medical condition to the whole population. It can happen with anything but here we see a primal fear of disease turning into mass panic. It seems almost deliberate. It is tragic. Once this starts, it could take years to repair the psychological damage.”

The age gradient is striking. The young attach higher probabilities to people like themselves contracting Covid-19, of being hospitalized conditional on infection, and of dying conditional on infection. Arguably, young respondents have a lifestyle that exposes them to wider networks, and this may explain why they feel more likely to be infected. But their assessment of health risks conditional on infection are puzzling in light of the evidence that Covid-19 is significantly less severe for younger people…Third, and crucially, young people, as compared to older people, report substantially higher mortality rates for every age group. Young people are more pessimistic than older people not only about their own mortality risk but also about everyone else’s mortality risk.

Daniel Horowitz wrote a great article about this survey titled, New study: Millennials think their risk from COVID-19 is exponentially more than the true threat. He writes:

Perhaps the most destructive element of lockdown is the panic and fear that such severe measures help confirm, in this case, wrongly so, in the minds of the young and impressionable. As the paper concludes, “Experience has shown that communities faced with epidemics or other adverse events respond best and with the least anxiety when the normal social functioning of the community is least disrupted.” In other words, we need to flatten the fear.

It is important to understand the differences between outright malingering and psychiatric disorders.

I’m a practicing psychiatrist who specializes in anxiety disorders, paranoid delusions, and irrational fear. I’ve been treating this in individuals as a specialist. It’s hard enough to contain these problems in normal times. What’s happening now is a spread of this serious medical condition to the whole population. It can happen with anything but here we see a primal fear of disease turning into mass panic. It seems almost deliberate. It is tragic. Once this starts, it could take years to repair the psychological damage.” (Quote from above article}


I can tell you the mental health aspect of COVID has not been addressed.

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Experience has shown that communities faced with epidemics or other adverse events respond best and with the least anxiety when the normal social functioning of the community is least disrupted.” In other words, we need to flatten the fear.

These tyrant governors and mayors, along with their media lapdogs and others, have done just the opposite. They have deliberately and methodically caused and increased fear for their political gain. I hate every one of them.

So, people who have not tested positive with COVID19 think they have it, and it is causing myriad symptoms that are not present in known severe cases?

Sounds like a coincidence, or their "harmless" recreational drug use has increased dramatically during the lockdown, or it's just another ailment or autoimmune disease.

A friend had some of these symptoms - loss of hair, weight gain, headaches - and was recently diagnosed with a Thyroid condition.

Personally, over the past year and a half I have experienced some of this too - brain fog, headaches/eye pain, neck pain, mild chest pain, ear pain, joint pain, and numbness in my left hand small fingers. All this seemed to really happen after a particularly bad head cold in early March 2019 while I was on a business trip to North Carolina during pine pollen season. And I was even in China in January 2019 - Chongqing (SW), Beijing, and Dalian (NE).

So far the cause has not been identified. So far, I have seen my GP, an ENT specialist, Neurologist, Ophthalmologist, Chiropractor, and an Allergy specialist. Also had a sinus and eye socket CT scan, a physical with full blood workup, and a Celiac disease test (negative). No one has found anything, except that I have allergies to shellfish and dust mites, and the symptoms are not severe. It's more of an annoyance as I feel like I'm running at 75% of normal. I haven't been to any doctor since mid March due to the shutdowns and reductions in elective visits.

Maybe next I'll try a orthopedist or an arthritis specialist since I'm 48 and things just start going wrong as you get older. Seriously, I felt fine until I turned 47 and then things started going noticeably downhill.

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Try to find someone who specializes in autoimmune disorders. I know several people who have similar ailments who turned out to have Lyme Disease or a rare autoimmune disorder. I see that you live in Indiana. I would try one of the major medical center in Indianapolis or Chicago. These folks are ALWAYS intereested in patients with ailments such as yours. I would not bother with orthopedists they are basically bone mechanics, not diagnosticians.

Good news in my county: the total number of deaths has decreased from 109 to 108. Yes, new deaths yesterday were reported to be -1.

The panic seems to be if not over, then at least significantly reduced. How much longer can the charade be kept up? I know the standard answer and I can't help but laugh at every Biden commercial that tells me Joe has a plan for the VID. Seriously, the guy's late to the party on this, it's over. I saw a couple reports of reinfection, but I don't believe that'll be enough to stretch this out another couple of months. People I've talked to are done. Even Karen is tired of it.

My younger son went to Texas to get a job as a software engineer in the hottest job market in 20 years. Poof! It all disappeared but there he was stuck in Texas, and his usual anxiety went through the roof. And he was afraid to come home because he might bring us the Covid, he thought.

Don’t know what else he was doing there, but he was just admitted to the hospital with DKA—was not a known diabetic before, but HbA1C was 12!!

Now he’s having to deal with the anxiety of being a diabetic, and maybe some new neurological symptoms in addition.

I’m on my way to see him today.
ZSMichael, you’re not in Texas by any chance?

Regarding the "long haulers". A couple of months ago, one of my wife's old classmates posted on Facebook that his wife had tested positive. His first wife had died of ALS and he was livid that his current wife had the covid because he "didn't want to lose another one". He ranted on FB that people who don't wear masks are murderers, etc., eventually deleting the post.

Well, his wife decided to chronicle her life with the covid so she started posting on FB everyday, listing her symptoms and how she felt. Obviously, she wasn't ready to die if she was posting on FB everyday. After a month, she couldn't figure why she still felt so bad. She went to the doctor and tested negative for covid. It turns out that the covid reactivated her dormant Epstein-Barr (mononucleosis) which had been accounting for all her symptoms for at least the previous 2-3 weeks.

So did they ever say they were sorry for attacking folks or for chronicling her now incorrect covid sypmtoms? Nope, of course not. In fact, several people praised her for her courage to post her battle with the "beast" even though the beast was actually mono! They were definitely enjoying the victimhood.

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I’m on my way to see him today.
ZSMichael, you’re not in Texas by any chance?

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Mississippi Gulf Coast. Did spend a year in San Antonio though.

We are just beginning to learn of the effects of Covid for some people. I do believe for some it has the possiblity of triggering an autoimmune process. Most patients with Lyme disease recover, but some are left with debilitating illnesses. Certainly for some people there are complicating psychiatric factors that must be addressed. More questions that answers at this point.

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Originally posted by sjtill:
My younger son went to Texas to get a job as a software engineer in the hottest job market in 20 years. Poof! It all disappeared but there he was stuck in Texas, and his usual anxiety went through the roof. And he was afraid to come home because he might bring us the Covid, he thought.

Don’t know what else he was doing there, but he was just admitted to the hospital with DKA—was not a known diabetic before, but HbA1C was 12!!

Now he’s having to deal with the anxiety of being a diabetic, and maybe some new neurological symptoms in addition.

I’m on my way to see him today.
ZSMichael, you’re not in Texas by any chance?

And with that we've come full circle back to the question at hand. Is Covid worse than the preventative measures government has taken to save us all from it? My opinion at this point...we've done far more damage to ourselves and society than Covid could have ever done.

Sure hope your son recovers well from everything he's going through.

And on this day, August 29, 2020, Sweden's WuhFlu daily deaths 7-day moving average is 1. The US WuhFlu daily deaths 7-day moving average is 960. Sweden has a population of 10.1 million. The US population is younger and about 33 times larger. Sweden reported its first death on March 4, 2020. The first death in the US was apparently on February 6, 2020. Sweden's medically sound, scientifically based strategy, has clearly performed much better than the hysterical approach championed by the so-called US experts.

And yes, I think the damage done by the governments hysterical and continued irrational response will be seen before very long as an epic man-made disaster.

New CDC report says 94% of COVID deaths had underlying conditions, only 6% died from COVID alone

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has issued a new report detailing how many COVID-19 deaths in America also involved other underlying health conditions.

According to the report, only 6% of the COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. list COVID-19 as the only cause of death. 94% of COVID-19 deaths involved at least one other underlying health condition, and on average involved "2.6 additional conditions or causes of death."

Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups.The new report on the CDC's website states:

The CDC listed the top underlying medical conditions linked to coronavirus deaths as:

Influenza and pneumonia
Respiratory failure
Hypertensive disease
Diabetes
Vascular and unspecified dementia
Cardiac Arrest
Heart failure
Renal failure
Intentional and unintentional injury, poisoning and other adverse events
Other medical conditions


According to the CDC, 9,683 people have died in the United States having only COVID-19 listed on their death certificate as cause of death. At the time the CDC report was released, 161,392 deaths had been attributed to COVID-19 in the U.S.Link

And yet, the panic not only continues, it increases. I've been saying for a long time, the day will come when I can say "I told you so" and it will come at the point where the evidence is overwhelming and irrefutable that none of the silly shit we've been subjected to was necessay. We don't need to wear masks. We don't "social distance". We didn't need to shut down all our institutions and businesses. We didn't need 19 freakin' bazillion ventilators. We don't even need a vaccine, which, I doubt will be in the least effective, if it materializes at all.

Tell me- when's the last time you hear of anyone getting the flu? Nobody gets the flu anymore. No, it's all "COVID-19". We have frauds chalking up motor vehicle accident deaths as COVID-19 deaths. We have incompetent and dishonest leftist public health officials flat-out falsifying numbers. We have nearly destroyed the best economy anyone drawing breath right now will ever see. We have put millions upon millions of Americans out of work, drained state and Federal coffers compensating these workers, and caused the failures of untold numbers of small businesses. We have stimulated the manias and phobias of hypochondriacs the world over and created fear- genuine fear- in gullible people, to the point they may never fully recover. We have made it easy for con-men to capitalize on this fear and uncertainty and we have facilitated fraud at all levels of government.

But, hey, "if it saves one life..."

The day will come when all of this becomes sufficiently clear to a majority of the population and when that happens, I am going to stand up and shout "I. TOLD. YOU. SO!!"