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Unfortunately, it's almost impossible for a false positive to occur.

And why is that, Dr. Kildaire?

The test detects an RNA sequence. It's like looking for a long specific sequence of numbers. If there's a match, there's very little chance of it being something else.

A false negative is different. Although you might have the virus, it might not show up in the specific sample that was taken. Maybe the sample site was too shallow, and the virus was deeper. Or it hadn't had enough time to replicate in numbers. Or the test was done improperly. Lots of things could cause you not to detect something that is actually there.

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I got the one where they stick a 16" swab in each nostril and makes you yell like Bruce Lee about to kick half of Taiwan's ass

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That is the real deal. Technique in taking the sample is important.

^^You are correct. Unfortunately, the deeper the swab, the more reliable the test. At early stages, the infection might only be present deeper inside the nasal cavity.

The shallow swab, which I got, only goes about an inch up the nostril. Since there was a chance of error (false negative), I followed up with the antibody test a few weeks after (a blood test). Luckily, it was also negative.

Yeah, well, the ER guy had his knuckles in my nose. Balls deep, in a sense.

I SAID IN A SENSE!

Sorry about that. Your pain was not for nothing.

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Sure it was. It was a total waste of time. Time will prove me correct.

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OK what test did you have for Covid? I would hope that you selected a competent ENT and as a result got an accurate test. If this is the case you are in the lucky 20 percent who are asymptomatic. I hope they are doing contact tracing. You should consider yourself most fortunate. If you doubt the test go someplace else and get a test.

I got swabbed at a credible medical urgent care (meaning tied to the hospital) that was recommended by my ENT. She did the shallow test so the swab was not tickling my tonsils...

My primary doctor was informed and we are calling in the morning to see if I can get another test done. It's too late for my sinus procedure but hopefully clear things up in the event I need to rush down to Florida.

I had a doctor stick a poker in my pecker almost 40 years ago.

Test came back negative for the COVID but I got the Jack (and a big ol' shot in the ass for a piece of ass), so I'm good to go, no mask, no six feet, no Strong Alone, and I can eat all the ice cream I want.

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And now to wipe that imagery of pokers in peckers.

Australia COVID-19 stats 10 August 2020



(source: health.gov.au)

In Victoria - there is increased compliance (masks when outside), more people at home, more people doing the right thing, less people doing the wrong thing.

That's the gist of where it's at.

--chris

Governor Blackface (Northam) and his commie cronies are at it again.

https://www.wjhl.com/coronavir...e-you-can-report-it/

RICHMOND, Va. (WJHL) – The Virginia Department of Health Monday released an online complaint form to report violations of the statewide face-covering mandate.

According to the online form, if you observe violations of Executive Orders 63, or 67, you can now report it to the state health department.

Executive Order 63 involves wearing a face-covering while inside buildings. Executive Order 67 involves Phase 3 easing of certain temporary restrictions due to COVID-19. Complaints that involve cloth face coverings or capacity requirements may be filed with this form.

On the form it states that VDH has the authority to enforce Executive Order 63 and a section of Order 67. These complaints will be reviewed by the state health department then forwarded to local health departments.

If you need access to the online form, click HERE.

You’d think a guy named Siegel would understand the Judenstern connotation?


Doctor Recommends Children Wear Yellow Badges If They Haven’t Been Vaccinated

During an appearance on Monday’s edition of the “Tucker Carlson Tonight” television program on FOX News, a doctor and Fox news contributor suggested that children should wear yellow badges bearing the phrase “No Hugs Please” if they have not received a COVID-19 vaccine.

Dr. Marc Seigel, a frequent FOX news contributor who recently landed an exclusive interview with President Donald Trump, told Tucker Carlson that children were looking to parents for leadership, and implied that wearing a yellow “No Hugs Please” badge would help in the fight against COVID-19.

“Here’s one other thing we have to do, sadly,” Seigel said while showing Carlson the yellow badge. “‘No Hugs Please.’ Now if you look at this pin Tucker, it looks like something you might remember: No Smoking Please.”

“Let’s give our kids all of these pins, ‘No Hugs Please,’ sadly, but I’m gonna say this, with this pin, or shirts, ‘No Hugs Please,’ we’re gonna get 26 candidates for a vaccine coming out in the clinical trials right now,” Seigel continued.

“Vaccines are gonna emerge, we’re gonna beat this thing, and then this is gonna go in the garbage,” the doctor said in reference to the badge. “And we’re all gonna hug each other. In the meantime, Tucker, let’s show our kids courage. They’re looking to parents for leadership. Leadership says, open the schools wherever we can, Tucker.”

Carlson, who held a dour expression throughout Seigel’s monologue, seemed to push back against the guest’s idea of compulsory badges.

“I don’t know if I can go there, I’m a hugger, sorry,” Carlson said.

https://nationalfile.com/video...ent-been-vaccinated/

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You’d think a guy named Siegel would understand the Judenstern connotation?

Doctor Recommends Children Wear Yellow Badges If They Haven’t Been Vaccinated

Jeezus...even stupid me thought of this the first thing...





My...how history DOES repeat itself! JSMH.....

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Governor Blackface (Northam) and his commie cronies are at it again.

https://www.wjhl.com/coronavir...e-you-can-report-it/

RICHMOND, Va. (WJHL) – The Virginia Department of Health Monday released an online complaint form to report violations of the statewide face-covering mandate.

According to the online form, if you observe violations of Executive Orders 63, or 67, you can now report it to the state health department.

Executive Order 63 involves wearing a face-covering while inside buildings. Executive Order 67 involves Phase 3 easing of certain temporary restrictions due to COVID-19. Complaints that involve cloth face coverings or capacity requirements may be filed with this form.

On the form it states that VDH has the authority to enforce Executive Order 63 and a section of Order 67. These complaints will be reviewed by the state health department then forwarded to local health departments.

If you need access to the online form, click HERE.

So report them, all of them. The Governor, Lt. Governor, health dept. folks at all levels, every member of the legislature, etc. Flood the system with reports.

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So report them, all of them. The Governor, Lt. Governor, health dept. folks at all levels, every member of the legislature, etc. Flood the system with reports.

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I suspect there will be a STEEP fine for false reporting but NO reward for turning in your neighbor. Putin would be proud.

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...more people doing the right thing, less people doing the wrong thing.

I have no idea what this means.

Nashville has already started enforcing mask mandates with citations and arrests.

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Deshawn Williams, Patrick Walls and Jesse Burger were each charged with County Board of Health regulation violations,

https://fox17.com/news/local/4...roadway-this-weekend

With schools going on line due to the Chinese Virus - In a strange twist, I guess this is a good thing.
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Teachers Openly Fret That Parents Might Hear Them Brainwashing Children, Call Parents ‘Dangerous’

In one of the creepiest yet most revealing Twitter threads ever to be posted on the platform, a teacher recently fretted out loud that virtual classes might allow parents to hear him brainwashing their kids. Matthew R. Kay, an educator and author of a book on “how to lead meaningful race conversations in the classroom,” worried that “conservative parents” would be able to interfere with the “messy work” of indoctrinating children into critical race theory, gender theory, and other left-wing dogmas.

Here’s the entire thread, which has since been set to private:

So, this fall, virtual class discussion will have many potential spectators — parents, siblings, etc. — in the same room. We’ll never be quite sure who is overhearing the discourse. What does this do for our equity/inclusion work?

How much have students depended on the (somewhat) secure barriers of our physical classrooms to encourage vulnerability? How many of us have installed some version of “what happens here stays here” to help this?

While conversation about race are in my wheelhouse, and remain a concern in this no-walls environment — I am most intrigued by the damage that “helicopter/snowplow” parents can do in the host conversations about gender/sexuality. And while “conservative” parents are my chief concern — I know that the damage can come from the left too. If we are engaged in the messy work of destabilizing a kid’s racism or homophobia or transphobia — how much do we want their classmates’ parents piling on?

It’s important to note that while some teachers responded to Kay’s comments with the appropriate level of horror and disgust, many others chimed in to share their own strategies for brainwashing during a pandemic. One teacher said she’d also been “thinking about” the problem Kay described, and had decided that she’d ask students about their preferred pronouns via survey — though she still worries that “caregivers” might see it and learn something about their children that they weren’t supposed to know.

Another teacher said that students last semester would sometimes “type secrets into the chat” whenever the discussion turned to “anti-racism and gender inclusive content.” Another complained that a white parent— she made sure to specify “white” — in her district recorded a Zoom class and “filed a complaint against the teacher for an anti-racist read aloud (saying the teacher’s commentary was inappropriate and biased).” This, the teacher says, “is going to be an issue.”

A ninth grade teacher shared in the commiseration, saying that her class required students to “read and respond to a news article,” but that participation in this exercise is stunted now because “outsiders” are “listening.” The “outsiders,” to be clear, are the children’s parents. A teacher with pronouns listed in her Twitter handle said that she plans to use the chat function more than voice lectures because she wants children to share “information” with her in a “parentless way.” A science teacher agreed with all of the sentiments expressed here and summarized it bluntly: “Parents are dangerous.”

And these are just the comments that were captured in screenshots before the tweets were all made private. Presumably, there is more where this came from. A lot more.

Several points must be made in response.

First, classrooms are certainly not “safe places” for children to be “vulnerable.” Students may say and do things when they are with their peers in school that they would not say and do at home, but only a fool who doesn’t understand the first thing about child psychology and the effects of peer pressure would assume that the child’s at-school version of himself is the most authentic, much less the most healthy. The pressure to conform to the values and opinions of your peers in the classroom is immense, and often suffocating. There is a reason why rejection and alienation by peers has contributed to a true epidemic of suicide among young people.

The very same people who extol the classroom as a “safe place” for vulnerability will also tell us, on different days and in different contexts, that bullying is a major problem for today’s youth and many of them are driven to self-destruction because of it. So, which is it? Is the classroom a place for open and genuine dialogue, where children can safely express their truest feelings and beliefs, or is it a place rife with bullying and mockery, where rigid conformity is demanded and those who fail to meet the demands are severely punished? It certainly can’t be both.

Second, an adult keeping a secret with a child, and helping the child conceal that secret from his parent — especially when the secret has anything to do with sexuality — is acting in a way that is nothing short of predatory. If you heard a strange man on the playground whisper to your child, “this will just be our little secret,” you would assume that the man is some kind of sex offender. Does this behavior suddenly transform from disturbing to admirable if the strange man is a teacher? No, it doesn’t. But this is the sort of license society has given to teachers, on the the theory that they cannot do the work of educating unless they have more power over, and intimate knowledge of, their students than the students’ own parents.

That brings us, finally, to point three, which is that a public school teacher is not supposed to be, and should not try to be, educator, parent, shaman, spiritual guide, therapist, friend, confidant, and sex counselor, all rolled into one. He or she is meant to fill only the first role on that list, and only in the subject the teacher has been assigned to teach. A child’s actual parents only come to be viewed as “dangerous” interlopers and intrusive “outsiders” when teachers begin to view themselves and the school system as the true guardians and conservators of the children that are temporarily in their care. And that, ultimately, is the problem with the modern education system.

Children are not old enough to be emancipated. They cannot yet go out and live their own lives. They cannot make every decision for themselves. They must belong to someone — not owned like objects but cared for and protected like the vulnerable human beings they are. The fundamental question is who do they belong to. Different cultures in different times and places have had different answers to this question.

Here, in contemporary American society, there are generally two ways of looking at it: children belong to their parents, or they belong to the school system (which is to say, the government). In one vision, a child is a son or daughter, in the other, the child is a ward of the state.

Only one of these visions is healthy, natural, and humanizing. Only one can properly facilitate a child’s emotional, mental, intellectual, and spiritual growth. The school system doesn’t just have a wrong and harmful idea of what education is — it has a wrong and harmful idea of what a child is, and what its fundamental role in a child’s life is supposed to be. And that is why I will not send my kids into its clutches. Neither should you.

https://www.dailywire.com/news...m_campaign=position1

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Doctor Recommends Children Wear Yellow Badges If They Haven’t Been Vaccinated

The response to that idiot doctor should be to come on out and try to put one of those on my kids and see what happens.
As John Wayne said (as Davey Crockett) in "the Alamo" about Santa Ana....Guess we can't stop him from coming. But I reckon we can arrange for him to limp going back

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Nashville has already started enforcing mask mandates with citations and arrests.

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Deshawn Williams, Patrick Walls and Jesse Burger were each charged with County Board of Health regulation violations,

https://fox17.com/news/local/4...roadway-this-weekend

Wonder what the mechanism is (assuming there is one) to follow up on these citations. Something tells me the vast majority of these will never be paid. I surely wouldn't fork over anything.

600 pages and the pandemic is not over.

By half.