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Originally posted by Sig2340:
600 pages and the pandemic is not over.

By half.

Those assholes are going to run with this pandemic until a communist gains the presidency, so we have 8 or 12 more years of this BS at least.

FFS, cut it out. All the time you've been here and all the posts you've put up, and you come out with something like that.

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Originally posted by roberth:
Those assholes are going to run with this pandemic until a communist gains the presidency, so we have 8 or 12 more years of this BS at least.

Last time I checked, Donald Trump ain't no fuckin commie.

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Wonder what the mechanism is (assuming there is one) to follow up on these citations. Something tells me the vast majority of these will never be paid. I surely wouldn't fork over anything.

You can't challenge these things in court without standing, and being cited/arrested is a good start to getting that foot in the door.

I thought Memphis had a monopoly on the ding-a-lings in Tennessee.

A Nashville, Tennessee, councilwoman wants those who don’t wear face masks during the coronavirus pandemic to be charged with attempted murder.

Sharon Hurt, an at-large councilwoman of the Nashville Metro Council, joined an Aug. 5 meeting between Public Safety, Beer & Regulated Beverages and Health, Hospitals, & Social Services committees.

“My question goes back to legislation,” she said during the meeting. “But my concern is — you know I work for an organization, that if they pass a virus, then they are tried for murder or attempted murder, if they are not told … and this person who may very well pass this virus that's out in the air because they're not wearing a mask is basically doing the same thing to someone who contracts it and dies from it.”

“It seems to me that we have been more reactive, as opposed to proactive, and a little too late, too little. So, my thing is, maybe there should be legislation, stronger legislation, I don't know if Mike Jameson is ... can speak to it, but maybe there needs to be stronger legislation to say that if you do not wear a mask and you subject exposure of this virus to someone else then there will be some stronger penalty as it is in other viruses that are exposed,” she added.

Director of legislative affairs for the mayor’s office, Mike Jameson, responded by saying that the city council doesn’t have the authority to create criminal legislation.

"The council does not have the opportunity on its own to create criminal legislation, that is a state creature. We're warranted by state law, to apply criminal application to violations, just for example, as the state law allows us to apply a Class E misdemeanor to violate a health director violation," Jameson said. "But, in terms of creating a new code, or class of criminal offenses, that is a creature of state law."

“I was afraid that was going to be the answer,” Hurt responded. “I guess that’s the whole point of asking for something to be done as early as the Council was pushing. It seems it was not taken as seriously as it should have been and thus we are in the situation we are in right now.”

Hurt’s comments come as some states push for stronger mask mandates, including in Indiana, where Republican Gov. Eric Holcomb signed a mask-wearing mandate at the end of July. Hundreds of protesters gathered outside Indiana’s Statehouse in Indianapolis over the weekend to denounce the face mask requirement.

https://www.washingtonexaminer...t-wearing-face-masks

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Originally posted by a1abdj:

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Wonder what the mechanism is (assuming there is one) to follow up on these citations. Something tells me the vast majority of these will never be paid. I surely wouldn't fork over anything.

You can't challenge these things in court without standing, and being cited/arrested is a good start to getting that foot in the door.

My question revolved more around the how do they make you pay issue. Something tells me with court dockets overflowing with cases, stuff like this will never see its day in court nor are there any real punishments they can level against you for non-payment. So I say, write away if it makes ya happy, I won't be paying a one of them.

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Originally posted by oddball:

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Originally posted by roberth:
Those assholes are going to run with this pandemic until a communist gains the presidency, so we have 8 or 12 more years of this BS at least.

Last time I checked, Donald Trump ain't no fuckin commie.

I think you misunderstood what I said.

The communists won't win this upcoming presidential election and they won't win 2024, 2028, or 2032. I think they've really screwed themselves good, hopefully no democrat gets in the White House ever again.

When I'm driving around I see ZERO Biden sticker, NONE, and I live in a democrat city. I see Trump stickers and old Obama stickers, but not Biden.

So who's going to be first in line for the Russian vaccine that's been 'stringently tested' for less than two months????

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/c...navirus-development/

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Moscow — Russian President Vladimir Putin says a coronavirus vaccine developed in the country has been registered for use and one of his daughters has already been inoculated. Speaking at a government meeting on state television Tuesday, Putin emphasized that the vaccine has proven efficient during tests and offers a lasting immunity from the coronavirus.

"I know that it works quite effectively, forms strong immunity, and I repeat, it has passed all the needed checks," the Reuters news agency quotes him as saying.

He said one of his two daughters has received a shot of the vaccine and is feeling well. "In this sense, she took part in the experiment," he observed.

........ (more at the link) .....

It seems only right that we let our heroic Russian comrades do their fraternal internationalist duty by beta testing that vaccine before anyone else does. Why deny them the glorious place in history that they've earned?

And in actual news, Dr. Scott Atlas of the Hoover Institution and Tucker Carlson Tonight has been appointed to the White House Task Force. When he was on TCT last night the banner read “WH Coronavirus Task Force” but there was no explanation.
Today’s news confirms this.
PJ Media link

Atlas has been cheering for the rise in cases in the US as building herd immunity, while MSM and even FNC have been putting up scare headlines “most cases in the world!!!”.
Atlas will bring a very different perspective to the Task Force.
I hope he will be listened to; and hope that he will educate the idiotic media on what is good news and what is bad.
For example, Dr. Atlas cheered the news of young people getting together at bars. Without masks.

Sweden appears to have been successful in achieving herd immunity; only 16% of Swedes wore masks; they got a bad rap as early on they had more cases and more deaths; but now they have a near-zero new deaths rate while other countries that locked down are experiencing a second wave—because not enough low-risk people got immunity.

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Sweden appears to have been successful in achieving herd immunity; only 16% of Swedes wore masks; they got a bad rap as early on they had more cases and more deaths; but now they have a near-zero new deaths rate while other countries that locked down are experiencing a second wave—because not enough low-risk people got immunity.

The thing is that there may be no such thing as long lasting immunity. In one German study, they looked at antibody levels in severe cases, and they found that %15 had no protective antibody levels just two months after getting the disease. This goes up to 40% in those that had little to no symptoms. This could be part of the reason why some people keep getting it over and over again.

In other words, the virus itself may not confer immunity.

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Originally posted by 9mm_shooter:
The thing is that there may be no such thing as long lasting immunity. In one German study, they looked at antibody levels in severe cases, and they found that %15 had no protective antibody levels just two months after getting the disease. This goes up to 40% in those that had little to no symptoms. This could be part of the reason why some people keep getting it over and over again.

In other words, the virus itself may not confer immunity.

Researchers are finally beginning to look at the entire picture. Your immune system is not just antibodies. A lot of people who are exposed to this virus never show any symptoms at all. Why is that?

From a recent paper out of Sweden:

"ABSTRACT

SARS-CoV-2-specific memory T cells will likely prove critical for long-term immune protection against COVID-19. We systematically mapped the functional and phenotypic landscape of SARS-CoV-2-specific T cell responses in a large cohort of unexposed individuals as well as exposed family members and individuals with acute or convalescent COVID-19. Acute phase SARS-CoV-2-specific T cells displayed a highly activated cytotoxic phenotype that correlated with various clinical markers of disease severity, whereas convalescent phase SARS-CoV-2-specific T cells were polyfunctional and displayed a stem-like memory phenotype. Importantly, SARS-CoV2-specific T cells were detectable in antibody-seronegative family members and individuals with a history of asymptomatic or mild COVID-19. Our collective dataset shows that SARS-CoV-2 elicits robust memory T cell responses akin to those observed in the context of successful vaccines, suggesting that natural exposure or infection may prevent recurrent episodes of severe COVID-19 also in seronegative individuals."

You can read the pre-print of the paper here: Robust T cell immunity

Admittedly, my biology is a bit rusty - but from what I recall - antibodies generally do fade over time, but the body has mechanisms to remember how to recreate them if they run into a similar virus. So I'm not sure that all this focus on fading antibodies is really relevant - but I'm sure others may be more knowledgeable in this area.

The MSM has their hair on fire about “asymptomatic cases”. I say “Hooray!!”
More people with at least partial immunity!

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
It seems only right that we let our heroic Russian comrades do their fraternal internationalist duty by beta testing that vaccine before anyone else does. Why deny them the glorious place in history that they've earned?

This is how the Zombie Apocalypse starts.

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Originally posted by leavemebe:

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Originally posted by 9mm_shooter:
The thing is that there may be no such thing as long lasting immunity. In one German study, they looked at antibody levels in severe cases, and they found that %15 had no protective antibody levels just two months after getting the disease. This goes up to 40% in those that had little to no symptoms. This could be part of the reason why some people keep getting it over and over again.

In other words, the virus itself may not confer immunity.

Researchers are finally beginning to look at the entire picture. Your immune system is not just antibodies. A lot of people who are exposed to this virus never show any symptoms at all. Why is that?

From a recent paper out of Sweden:

"ABSTRACT

SARS-CoV-2-specific memory T cells will likely prove critical for long-term immune protection against COVID-19. We systematically mapped the functional and phenotypic landscape of SARS-CoV-2-specific T cell responses in a large cohort of unexposed individuals as well as exposed family members and individuals with acute or convalescent COVID-19. Acute phase SARS-CoV-2-specific T cells displayed a highly activated cytotoxic phenotype that correlated with various clinical markers of disease severity, whereas convalescent phase SARS-CoV-2-specific T cells were polyfunctional and displayed a stem-like memory phenotype. Importantly, SARS-CoV2-specific T cells were detectable in antibody-seronegative family members and individuals with a history of asymptomatic or mild COVID-19. Our collective dataset shows that SARS-CoV-2 elicits robust memory T cell responses akin to those observed in the context of successful vaccines, suggesting that natural exposure or infection may prevent recurrent episodes of severe COVID-19 also in seronegative individuals."

You can read the pre-print of the paper here: Robust T cell immunity

I saw that too, and another similar paper that discussed how people with no prior specific COVID-19 exposure had T-cells that responded to multiple coronavirus strains, so there's that hope too.

So, after going all this time with not knowing anyone with C-19, I now know five including one person I work with. Another co-worker is waiting for their test result after being exposed by a sister.

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Originally posted by sjtill:
The MSM has their hair on fire about “asymptomatic cases”. I say “Hooray!!”
More people with at least partial immunity!

I guess I have a bad attitude, but when I hear the Lame Stream Media (LSM, fixed it for you ) has their hair on fire about anything, my initial response is “Who gives a rat’s rump what those lying sacks of fecal material have to say?”

@ slosig...

I didn't realize how bad Australia had become...

Melbourne woman choked by Victoria Police as she resists arrest for not wearing a face mask.